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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 12, 2020 8:39:18 GMT -8
Where do I know Susan George from? Let me check out her IMDB credentials.
She’s been in a little of this and that. Nothing that really stands out to me. I guess she’s known for “Straw Dogs” with Dustin Hoffman. I don’t remember if I’ve seen that one.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 12, 2020 9:30:56 GMT -8
Straw Dogs features Dustin Hoffmann as a Hoffmanesque main character (I think a professor, even) on some sort of vacation in an English village who runs into increasing problems with the locals until he has to develop his inner John Wayne, or what there is of it. (I use those as opposites because Time had a piece 50 or so years ago contrasting the two.) I would assume Susan George played his wife.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 12, 2020 10:16:38 GMT -8
I saw "Straw Dogs" when it came out and do not recall having seen it since. I am sure I could have had I wished to.
What my 66 year-old mind recalls from my 17-18 year-old mind is that the film displayed unnecessary gratuitous violence which one had come to expect from a Sam Peckinpah film. If I recall correctly, I did not find the story or Hoffman very believable, but I did like looking at Susan George.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 12, 2020 10:23:55 GMT -8
He was a writer for all kinds of old TV westerns. Whatever his excesses regarding violence, the master of that crap is the thoroughly overrated Quentin Tarantino.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 12, 2020 11:48:23 GMT -8
Peckinpah was perhaps the first director to use extreme slow-motion violence in his work. I recall "The Wild Bunch" received all sorts of comments due to its bloody scenes.
I don't believe I have ever seen a Tarantino film in full. I do recall coming across one with Uma Thurman who had a samurai sword, and another with John Travolta and I believe Samuel Jackson in which they shot a number of people for no apparent reason. That's it.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 12, 2020 12:02:07 GMT -8
I believe Peckinpah did The Getaway with Steve McQueen and Ali McGraw, which I enjoyed. Straw Dogs was all right once, but I doubt I'd see it again. I've never seen The Wild Bunch.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 12, 2020 12:23:44 GMT -8
Yeah, well. I can’t argue against that. It was excessive but “cutting edge” and “cool” in the way watching someone else fall into a manhole is cutting edge and cool. It works for cartoons. For Westerns, it’s just another fashion that hasn’t yet run it’s course.
The other side of the coin are the old war movies or Westerns where a guy is shot (maybe gut-shot) and then just peacefully keels over and that’s that. Dead in an instant.
So I sort of get where these new violence-infused movies are coming from. But clearly they are over-doing it. Clearly there is something wrong with an audience that enjoys seeing more blood than any Roman Coliseum crowd ever could imagine.
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Post by timothylane on Jul 12, 2020 13:45:42 GMT -8
Yesterday, TCM showed (among other things) Westworld and The Mouse That Roared. I can't remember when I last saw the latter. One thing I noticed is that the cast of Westworld including Majel Barrett (aka Nurse Christine Chapel) as the robot madam and the latter included Leo McKern as David Benter (self-proclaimed "leader of the party of the common man"). Even knowing this in advance, I couldn't really recognize either one.
Then again, how many people recognize Peter Sellers as Duchess Gloriana or Count Rupert of Mountjoy?
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