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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 10:25:54 GMT -8
Mittens' statement,
shows he either has a profound misunderstanding of Christianity or is a phony. A Christian is called on to keep his word. Whether or not one gives one's word before God should make no difference. What does he think, that if he gives his word "not before God" it is like crossing his fingers behind his back so it doesn't count? Hypocritical scoundrel.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 6, 2020 10:37:36 GMT -8
Fox just announced that Tom Perez, the chair of the democrat party, is reevaluating the Iowa causes results. Sounds like they are going for a recount. My guess is their internals show Sanders getting stronger and they are trying to sabotage him. I think there is a strong likelihood that Sanders will get the nod.
I hope that happens, a clear choice is in Trumps favor.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 6, 2020 10:54:45 GMT -8
I wouldn't kick Romney out of the party just because he became the first Senator ever to vote to convict a President of his own party. Apparently McConnell's first act after the Senate acquitted Trump was to file for cloture on some more judicial nominations, which is exactly what I hoped he would do. Romney has voted for them generally (including Brett Kavanaugh), and his vote might be needed against sometime.
The complaint that Romney fights Trump harder than he fought the Black God in 2012 is quite true, and in fact nothing new. I've pointed out the same thing before in many places, including ST and probably here. In fact, people noticed as far back as 2012. I was unhappy that he let the Black God off more easily than he did Newt Gingrich (in particular) during the primaries.
The Demagogue Debacle in Iowa is turning into a Schadenfreudefest. After 60 hours, they still haven't counted all the votes, and there are so many reports of inaccuracies that DNC head Tom Perez is calling for a complete recanvass. In addition, it should embarrass the party demanding the elimination of the Electoral College that (as of the latest results with 97% of the vote counted) that Battygeek has 4 more delegates than Bolshie Bernie Scamders even though the latter outpolled him by 1.5% in the final alignment.
The Yellow Jester and Amy Koldbutcher saw their votes actually decline between the first and final votes, no doubt because of precincts where they didn't get 15% of the vote. In addition, the South Carolina GOP has no primary this year and is suggesting that their voters meddle in the Demagogue primary. The state has open primaries, which the GOP would like to replace with closed primaries. (Since they control both houses of the state legislature and the governorship, I don't know why they don't just do that themselves.) This could be very bad news for the Yellow Jester, who has a lot of problems. How soon will he be forced to quit, and where will his remaining voters go?
Mike Doomberg may well succeed in buying the nomination. He's a Demagogue with a Republican record on law and order (because he was calling himself a Republican while he was Mayor), a Wall Street and big money background, and has Me Too problems. A perfect fit for the Demagogues' self-image.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 11:00:48 GMT -8
This is the deviant the Dims are trying to massage into the lead over Bernie.
As Brad hinted, Butt Gig is the kid who got smacked around during recess in school. Why? Because he was the punk who gave apples to teachers and ratted out other kids. No doubt he also tried coming on to other boys who were not appreciative of his attentions.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 11:06:04 GMT -8
Although it was not their primary motivation, I am sure delaying such nominations was one Dim goal. Basically, Mitch lost a couple of months during which he could have brought up more nominees.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 11:09:51 GMT -8
I'll take the "D" ones for Jonah: Deluded, deceptive, dishonest.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 11:14:28 GMT -8
Maybe God was for acquittal because he doesn’t like Communists.
As soon as you bring God into this as he did, he’s simply trying to raise himself to the level of honorable martyr. “Oh, but I had no choice but to follow the dictates of conscience.” He’s trying to dress up his far baser movies. I don’t for a minute believe that he invoked God in a struggle with his conscience. I think this is payback and it also plays well to his real constituency: The chattering class.
Trump was certainly right to leave this waffle of a man out of his cabinet. I could respect a contrary opinion if it was based upon something substantial. But anyone with half a brain understands this was an attempt at a coup by the Democrats who simply cannot accept that Hillary lost the election.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 11:20:51 GMT -8
I could respect a homosexual such as, say, Rock Hudson running for president. No, it’s not to his credit that he’s a butt pirate. But one can be a butt pirate and still have a bit of class and dignity about him.
Butt-gig, as you said, is the twerp who gave apples to teacher and then ratted on other kids. I figure he’s the kind of guy who got beat up a lot on the playground, and not because he was a pole smoker. Frankly, I view him as the kind of sniveling kid for whom a light beating might do some good.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 11:23:16 GMT -8
That seems a reasonable guess. But from my viewpoint, which Democrats isn’t an embarrassment to this nation?
The obvious backdrop is that if these clowns can’t run one rather small election, what chance have they of managing anything bigger? They’re not winning any competency points.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 11:27:14 GMT -8
I'll settle for one day in the stocks throwing tomatoes at him.
I don’t expect anyone to be a brain-dead reflexive party man as with the Democrats. But there’s nothing here to respect about Romney. As much as he might like to think of himself as the lone man of courage, he’s simply a quisling little petulant weasel giving aid and comfort to real, actual, bona-fide enemies of this Republic, and all to satisfy his dressed-up-with-God grievance with Trump.
I haven’t forgiven Trump for his obnoxious comments about Ted Cruz. As I said (and will keep saying), Trump is a bum and a demagogue. But in the context of his enemies, he’s a guy you have to support. Period.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 6, 2020 12:27:03 GMT -8
This matter of competency also came up in 2012 -- with Romney. He's basic argument was that he was a capable businessman who would get things done right. Then he used some new app for his GOTV effort in the election, and apparently it worked badly. (The more things change . . .)
Of course, Trump also promised that he would get the best people to work for him. Giggle. But the results have been too painful at times to get a real belly laugh out of it.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 6, 2020 12:42:50 GMT -8
I've suggested for some time that delaying the judicial confirmation express was one Demagogue goal in the impeachment, and especially the desire to get as many witnesses as possible -- especially witnesses who'd be denied, so that the Senate would have to go to court. This is why the House is supposed to do all the work (which it can do at its own pace in committee without shutting down other actions) and let the Senate judge the results. For 2 weeks the Senate effectively did nothing else.
I would say that the Demagogues realized at some point Monday night that the Yellow Jester was flopping badly (there was a CNN entry poll, and then the first alignment). Koldbutcher was even weaker, though not by much, and Blonde Squaw With Empty Head was well behind and increasingly a joke. Battygeek, despite his flaws, was the only available alternative to Bolshie Bernie Scamders.
At this point, they began slightly rigging the vote count due to "errors" that no doubt always hurt Scamders and helped Battygeek. Fortunately for them, the vote was close enough for that to work. And they also chose counties to report early that favored Battygeek, thus giving him the initial edge. They also emphasized the delegate counts, which theoretically matter most, and not the actual votes (which favor Scamders in both the first and final alignments). And brand new polling shows Battygeek gaining ground in New Hampshire.
Remember also that counting actually votes is new this year. Previously they only reported the delegates selected (for the state convention later). Maybe now we know why they previously didn't.
It's a pity that Cory Bugger didn't make it this far. Kirk Douglas just died, and of course Bugger's pretense of a Spartacus moment comes from a scene in the movie starring Douglas. (Probably his most famous movie role, even, though he was good as Ned Land in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.)
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 13:17:07 GMT -8
I mentioned this two or three weeks back to a strong conservative and he didn't think it was the case. I explained to him that Dims are able to think clearly enough to accomplish several goals at the same time.
My friend is indicative of a major problem conservatives have, i.e. the inability to see deeper than 1 micron under the surface of actions. It is interesting that conservatives, who are the ones who supposedly have a deep understanding of human nature don't get the depths to which leftists will go to achieve their ends. A lack of imagination or simply flaccid thinking?
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Post by artraveler on Feb 6, 2020 13:29:46 GMT -8
This matter of competency also came up in 2012 -- with Romney. I moved to Utah in 2000 from CA. It was widely known that the Winter Olympics were in serious trouble. Some of the organizers were under investigation for graft and there was real concern in the state house that Utah would not only be embarrassed and have to fork out millions of dollars to cover the losses. The decision was made to clean it up and Mittens was brought in to do the job. He made himself very unpopular with the Olympic establishment but when the the show began in the winter of 2002 the venues were ready, transportation and food was available and worked, with only a few minor hitches the entire show came off. Later the olympic committee gave Romney full credit for a profitable show as did the state of Utah. This was not politics, just management, and Romney did a good job. I believe there are hundreds of other managers who could have done the same. But I have to give Mittens credit for actually doing a credible job. I don't know what happened to that Romney but it is sure not the one we have seen since 2012. This one is John McCain with a Mormon haircut.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 13:52:30 GMT -8
Here here. I think many lament that Romney turned into such a limp noodle. What could have been.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 6, 2020 14:21:38 GMT -8
If you suspected even a couple of weeks ago that delaying judicial confirmations was one reason for the impeachment fiasco, then you probably got in ahead of me. I think I began to think of that about a week ago. But that's long enough back that I'm not really sure. I certainly don't intend to hunt down my postings (especially on Disqus) to find out when I first mentioned the possibility.
Of course, it was also timed to help the Yellow Jester (and also Battygeek, though that probably wasn't the intention) against the 3 Senators (Michael Bennet is still running but doesn't count), especially Bolshie Bernie Scamders. It has long been a principle of mine that people act out of a multiplicity of motives, some good and some bad. (Some Demagogues may honestly have believed Trump was truly guilty of a serious enough offense to justify impeachment. I wouldn't bet on it, but it could always be.)
This notion is rare in politics, no doubt because it gets in the way of smearing people. If you admit that Trump may have had a legitimate reason to seek an investigation of Burisma and its Biden connection (fighting corruption linked to American politics) as well as a corrupt reason (investigating a potential opponent doing well against him in the polls), then he acted legitimately and impeachment wasn't jusified, much less conviction. (Sorry, Mitt. Like the Demagogues you voted with and whose Senate effort this year you made easier, you ignored that first point.)
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 6, 2020 14:22:17 GMT -8
That’s the $100,000 question, Mr. Kung. As I noted to you the other day, the so-called “greatest generation” were no impediment to the Communist takeover of this country’s institutions.
Several possible causes include life just being too good and easy for yutes (and their parents). Instead of correcting little radical Junior or Jane, they were (and still are) indulged, for it seems it was all harmless fun. And for the worst generation (the hippies), they kept reliving their own supposed glorious times as they fought for “a cause,” and just thought their own children were harmlessly doing the same.
Feminism and the pill were also instrumental in the overthrow of existing institutions and culture. Men — and only men — are the ones who draw lines in the sand and say “No!” (Typically when women do, it is because they are backed by a strong man.) When men were marginalized, there was no one to say no. We then became a society that made an idol out of indulgence. Any kind of application on restraint on human passions today is generally considered retrograde.
The entire social structure also shifted when one of the heretofore most important commodities — sex — was being given away with no strings attached. This further fueled the no-restraint culture and was yet another elements amongst dozens that disincentivized restraint.
There are many core signs of this inability to say no: The ballooning federal budget and deficit, the size of government, the number of abortions, the number of suicides, the amount of drug use, gender insanity, the number of freeloaders (including illegal aliens), the number of “homeless” commode zones, etc.
Quite incredibly, the one element that has allowed all in this indulgence to be maintained as a credible going concern is the sheer productivity of the manufacturing and technology sectors. Various companies have been able to fill increasingly fine-grained “needs” for products and services. Your average person has learned to have a refined and demanding taste far beyond that of any king of old England. And the appetites of the moderns continue to be met by cheaper and evermore innovative goods and services.
Restraint happens (or can happen) when you have found yourself over-extended. In this world where your phone or a video game can take you to other virtual world and be completely immersive — and these thing are all extraordinarily cheap — issues such as putting limits on government or looking at long-term problems of dissolving or redefined institutions just don’t show up on the radar. There would appear to be no reasonable justification for limits.
This is surely why, in this market of blissful distraction, that only the most zealous for a cause can cause any structural change — who can be made to be heard over the dull state of fat, happy, and stupid. And we’ve seen this is true. Hysteria is now the norm. “Racism” and “sexism” have been redefined to mean just about anything. But they are useful words because they are loud words.
I think the entire right/left paradigm is gone. It’s not longer about if, but how much. People expect life to be better tomorrow than it is today. And they thus demand that it be so. Any hint of discomfort becomes like a retelling of Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Princess and the Pea.” We can laugh at the crazies but what is considered crazy one moment soon becomes accepted in the next. Many of us are still waiting for “a bridge too far.” But so far the radicals have found a way to normalize even the most rickety of bridges.
I think much of the outrage against Donald Trump from the right is because they know they have been complete an absolute failures in the culture wars, if not outright collaborationists.
Only a vast plague, a terrorist EMP, or invasion from outer-space can likely change the course we are now set upon.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 14:35:12 GMT -8
Clearly, this is not obvious to many people, but anyone who observes what is happening around them and has even a small knowledge of history can come to no other conclusion. Most people can chew gum and walk at the same time. Why wouldn't they be able to have more than one motive for their actions? And if I can figure this out, many others can as well.
I mentioned this to a friend at my Sunday-morning-donut-shop visit. I think this is a natural result of watching what is actually going on. Looking at things from various points of view will generally give one new insights. One of the things I try to do when thinking about a situation is to put myself in the mindset of those involved. It isn't always easy, but it can be enlightening.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 6, 2020 15:45:54 GMT -8
A good reminder from Anne Coulter. Don't bet on the left's predictionsNot only are they ignorant, they are liars. One saw similar predictions as to the U.K.'s downfall should Brexit come about. Now we are beginning to see the actual state of things and it looks better for the U.K. than the EU.
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Post by timothylane on Feb 6, 2020 17:39:56 GMT -8
Leftist predictions are wish-fulfillment fantasies that they hope to turn into self-fulfilling prophecies. So they always predict what they hope to see. This results partly from living in a bubble (cf. Pauline Kael's famous "I don't know how Nixon won. Everyone I know voted for McGovern.") and partly as an exercise in media power.
I checked up on wikipedia, and it seems that what Kael actually said was slightly different. She said she only knew one person who voted for Nixon, which pretty much shows the same sort of bubble. Also, she (unlike the leftists of today) actually realized this was a bubble. If you know hardly anyone who supported someone who won by a landslide, you're in some sort of bubble. Leftists today, who reject facts for feelings, can't see that.
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