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May 27, 2020 7:12:31 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on May 27, 2020 7:12:31 GMT -8
SpaceX launches their manned flight today according to this article. Apparently launch is set for 4:33 pm Eastern with plenty of pre-game on before that. The article states that watching it on NASA TV (via Pluto TV) might be a the way to go, figuring that the normal streaming outlets would become overloaded. This morning I watched a little of what might have been a live press conference on NASA TV. Don’t get me wrong. I wish them well. But the press conference was worlds away from Jules Bergman. It’s as if the only viewer they had in mind was a Nervous Karen. “We’ll be safe. That will be safe. We’ll bring them home. It will be safe, safe, safe.” Jesus, if you want to be safe, don’t strap yourself to 100,000 gallons of volatile fuel, for one thing. In the old Jules Bergman era he’d be holding up cool models of the spacecraft and rocket and tell us what to expect, etc. Now it all seems geared to the Nervous Karens.
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May 27, 2020 12:41:49 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on May 27, 2020 12:41:49 GMT -8
Unfortunately, weather conditions caused the launch to be delayed until Saturday.
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May 27, 2020 13:16:21 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on May 27, 2020 13:16:21 GMT -8
Oh. Okay. I've been otherwise involved all day so I totally forgot about it. Do they have a time set for the retry?
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May 27, 2020 13:28:51 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on May 27, 2020 13:28:51 GMT -8
Saturday, May 30, 3:30 p.m. EDT
The cancellation came less than 20 minutes before launch time, but it was a matter of hoping there'd be a hole in the rainy weather. There wasn't.
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May 27, 2020 14:33:03 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on May 27, 2020 14:33:03 GMT -8
They can send a man to the moon but they can't make a rain-proof space vehicle. Or something like that. In the Great Northwest, if we had to wait to go anywhere because of the rain . . . well, it would sort of be like right now. Everybody locked down. But the environment is so much better off, so there is that.
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May 27, 2020 14:39:35 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on May 27, 2020 14:39:35 GMT -8
It also rains a lot in the Orlando area, if nothing else frequent short showers in the afternoon. When I came back from there in 1992 after attending Magicon (and doing a lot of sightseeing in the area, of course), my flight was delayed for quite some time. This made it interesting seeing my sister on our stop in Atlanta, and then getting picked up by Elizabeth a lot later that night than anticipated.
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May 30, 2020 13:10:54 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on May 30, 2020 13:10:54 GMT -8
Today was another rainy day in Florida, but fortunately there was a brief window of good weather just at the right moment. (The times for launching are based on where the ISS is in its orbit, which is why we have these precise launch times instead of the unending "T minus 10 and holding" of the 60s.) They're due to arrive at the space station tomorrow.
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May 30, 2020 18:21:53 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on May 30, 2020 18:21:53 GMT -8
Good for them. From a public relations standpoint, was anybody watching, especially after the reschedule?
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May 30, 2020 18:32:06 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on May 30, 2020 18:32:06 GMT -8
Trump and Pence attended, and no doubt others. Unfortunately, I didn't have my TV on (the prognosis earlier was inauspicious) so I don't know how large the crowd was.
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Jun 1, 2020 12:25:53 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 1, 2020 12:25:53 GMT -8
An interesting piece on SpaceX. It would appear that what they have achieved is very significant.
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Jun 1, 2020 12:57:13 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Jun 1, 2020 12:57:13 GMT -8
I knew that the SpaceX was produced by Musk, but not how cheap it is. Of course, the key to successful privatization is competition. If Musk can do this, so can somebody else, and we won't be (again) dependent on a single source. That's the way to keep it affordable. Let NASA confine itself to running the missions, which is does well enough.
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Jun 1, 2020 13:11:47 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 1, 2020 13:11:47 GMT -8
Good for SpaceX. And there’s no telling where this could go.
But I think it’s an extremely remote possibility that private companies can turn a dime anytime soon in regards to anything but launching satellites.
I see the International Space Station itself as an albatross. It’s a make-work project for the Star Trek dreamers. But it doesn’t do a hell of a lot but cost money.
Okay, if SpaceX has the extra money and the desire to go to Mars, I think that would be cool. But it would amount to little more than extraterrestrial virtue signaling because there isn’t likely a dime to be made on the moon, Mars, or anywhere else in the near future. I would say “Thank you for doing the research on your dime.” But I don’t see factories on Mars cranking out anything for resale on Earth anytime soon.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:06:32 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 1, 2020 14:06:32 GMT -8
I doubt private companies will have interest in doing much other than launch satellites and working for the military. In both ventures there is mucho dinero to be made.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:22:27 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 14, 2020 17:22:27 GMT -8
I read an article the other day that was gung ho on the private companies operating in space. I don't know where the article is. But the gist of it was that the guy thinks there is a lot of money to be made mining asteroids.
He offered zero information in regards to the feasibility, so it may be pie-in-the-sky kind of stuff that is written with plenty of enthusiasm but not much else.
But, sure, if you could cost effectively mine gold and platinum, among other metals, then you have a fantastic business opportunity there. My own hunch is that the operation would have to be really yuge to turn a profit and compete with terrestrial sources.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 25, 2020 8:45:01 GMT -8
He offered zero information in regards to the feasibility, so it may be pie-in-the-sky kind of stuff that is written with plenty of enthusiasm but not much else. I agree, it will be expensive and unless they find an astroid made of solid gold it is not likely happen in the next 100 years. I do think a moon base is possible by 2050 and perhaps Mars by the end of the century. I base that on how the trends in technology have moved over the last 80 years. You have more computing power in your smart phone than Apollo missions took to the moon.
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Jun 27, 2020 8:51:06 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 27, 2020 8:51:06 GMT -8
I wonder if there is more computing power in even a modern pocket calculator. Do they still make those things? One could say the justification for the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo programs was to beat the Russians, a worthy goal indeed. It was a government-lead agenda supported by oodles of highly innovated private companies. The International Space Station was motivated by Cosmic Kumbaya. It’s probably hasn’t delivered much more than that. It had/has a multi-governmental agenda fueled by hopes-and-dreams as much as actual rocket engines. The many robotic missions to Mars could be said to have been fueled by some vague “search for life,” although anyone with half a brain must understand by now that it takes more than just water and time to make life. We’re not sure what. But present theories are naive and inept. But when we come to things such as the Hubble Space Telescope (and those that have or will replace it) and fly-by missions to the outer planets, I think we do see some real science being done if only because it’s based on the desire to discover new things. And we’ve discovered tons of new things. I’m not saying that other motivations aren’t good or useful. But I do think these endeavors got the most done in terms of bang-for-buck. After all, we spent billions on Apollo and other than Tang, what do we have? We were basically in the role of Columbus who discovered a New World…but then never returned and built upon it. To actually colonize Mars or the Moon will take megabucks and it likely can’t be justified by anything other than “Because we haven’t done it before.” And having a colony on Mars would be very cool. But at the end of the day, it’s not go to be doing anything a robot couldn’t do better. They’ll just be filling space. It will be glorified geology, and nothing more. And the ventures will be so expensive, I can’t imagine a private company doing it on their own. Yes, if they find a solid gold asteroid, I think that would definitely make it commercially viable. Good analogy. But I’m not holding my breath even if I do think exploration in space is a very cool thing indeed.
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Nov 19, 2020 13:09:35 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 19, 2020 13:09:35 GMT -8
Have you ever crossed up some wires or cables? I have. But never did it result in 400 million dollars of damage. I laughed out loud when I read this. Yikes. Human error indeed.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 14, 2024 19:26:51 GMT -8
I have seen several videos of this amazing recovery. Space X and Elon Musk are doing things NASA never dreamed of.
By the way, I recently saw that Boeing now outsources 70% of their design and engineering work. This is what happens when a company becomes a financial business as opposed to a production company. A major reason the USA is falling behind in manufacturing. Chopsticks
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 15, 2024 8:09:32 GMT -8
I didn't see this post before I wrote: This is right out of an Arthur C. Clarke novel, without the child molesting. And for all the hype about the re-usability of NASA's space shuttle, the SpaceX Starship seems to be the real thing. There's a longer video here: SpaceX catches giant Starship booster with 'Chopsticks' on historic Flight 5 rocket launch and landingI found all the cheering to be a bit creepy. But perhaps that's just me. Perhaps just as creepy (but you know I'm a Musk fan) is the rationale for all this which is to establish a colony on Mars so that humans don't have all their beans in one basket. But I'm dubious about the prospects of making a Martian colony anything other than a very expensive toy. Still, it's his vision and his money so this should be interesting in the coming years. I guess he's paying for all this with his satellite launches and NASA contracts. But it sure must be expensive. Oh, and I read that Musk has the contract for landing men on the moon in 2026.
They said that was the first ever attempt. How do you practice something like that? One commenter wrote:
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