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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 25, 2020 18:55:12 GMT -8
Just don’t tell me that you or the wife made a heaping bowl of mashed potatoes and gravy or I’m going to be depressed, but in a good way.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 25, 2020 20:06:50 GMT -8
bowl of mashed potatoes Mashed potatoes with loads of butter topped with scallions. 8 oz ribeyes cooked medium rare, green beans, and broccoli and desert fresh home made pumpkin pie. Everyone gathered from Ft. Smith, Bentonville, Slalom Springs and Fayetteville. No one wore mask and we did not lapse into a Fauci coma. As the only Jew in this gathering I wished everyone a Merry Christmas. As I do to all of you. We even have enough potatoes left for potato latkes tomorrow, so I get some soul food after all.
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Post by timothylane on Dec 25, 2020 20:41:54 GMT -8
At Confabulation (an SF convention put on by IUSFC), Aija Beldavs used to make latkes in the morning in the consuite, though there was problem with the hotel smoke detectors. She was a Latvian who said that she saved her mother's life many years earlier -- when the Communists came for the family, she was in a hospital giving birth to Aija. The NKVD got Aija's father, but didn't bother going back for her mother.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 26, 2020 11:38:51 GMT -8
Sounds like you had a wonderful Christmas/holiday feast, Artler. Anyone who likes mashed potatoes with loads of butter w/scallions can't be all bad. But I had to look up potato latkes. But I don't see how you could go wrong with that either.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 26, 2020 12:20:52 GMT -8
Where did you find a picture of my first wife? Out is that my second? or third? Must be the first because that is the face that sent into the marines. No, that is my first mother-in-law.
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Post by timothylane on Dec 26, 2020 12:55:51 GMT -8
Sort of like finding shapes in clouds. To me, it looked like a pig (albeit without the legs).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 26, 2020 13:48:38 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 1, 2021 12:13:28 GMT -8
Happy Hanukkah
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 15, 2022 8:14:59 GMT -8
We are coming to the time when we celebrate the time when God chose to appear as a perfect human and, of course, came as a Jew. Artler shouldn't let that go to his head. But those are the facts. Or the reported facts. How anyone ever justified antisemitism because of this is beyond me. Jews are, admittedly, somewhat of a lost tribe even today. But they are the tribe central to the story of humanity and due our ongoing protection.
One of the most poignant Christmas songs is "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day," based on the 1863 poem "Christmas Bells" by American poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
We live in a world where the wrong often prevail. Putin should be in hell by now but he's still bombarding innocent civilians. Still, one does seem to be inevitably faced with the choice of hope or despair, confidence or skeptic.
This above song defies common sense and the rational and just says "Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor not a philosopher." Or something like that. It says that we will act like men of God and not a rabble even if the rabble sometimes have control. It says that we will hold onto the idea of peace on earth and goodwill to the-pronoun-of-your-choice.
The Christmas Spirit has eluded me thus far. I must have some Jew in me or something. In fact, my older brother did a couple of DNA ancestry tests and we do have about ½% of Jewish blood. But that's a poor excuse for rejecting hope and goodwill and staying a sourpuss. But then do we really have control of these things? Can we just flip a switch and suddenly It's a Wonderful Life?
I guess that's what bourbon is for. But, seriously. Have a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanaka, but take your "Winter Festivals" and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. Those "festivals" are fence-sitting quagmires of political/social neutering. Be hopeful or a cynic. As Jesus said, run hot or cold, but don't be lukewarm water. That's all that a "Winter Festival" is.
And that's precisely the problem at this time of year. Rarely do we human beings do other than sit on the fence and practice lukewarm. But then this holiday rolls around. And no matter how commercialized it may be, it hits us over the head with happiness and joy...or if the blow misses, we are on the sidelines realizing that we are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, just numb from living day to day and getting by as best we can.
Yeah, why not?
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Post by artraveler on Dec 15, 2022 14:54:08 GMT -8
Yeah, why not? Yep why not. The western world and large parts of Asia and Africa celebrate the idea of common fellowship with each other one day a year. I can support that idea, even if I don't accept the cosmic vehicle it arrived on. The Puritans of old New England did not celebrate Christmas but considered themselves pure Christians. I believe the Jehovah witnesses today do not celebrate Christmas, or any other "official" holiday. I used to, when much younger and stupider, be a little offended by people who knew I was Jewish wishing me a Merry Christmas. However, after returning from the 73 war my attitude changed. I was glad to be alive and I found G-d was on my side in the love of a wonderful woman. I was redeemed, saved, or whatever you care to call it. Every culture has a toast of some sort. The English raise their glass and say "Cheers", or "G-d save the Queen or I guess King". My friend Father Mike translated a Gaelic toast that I have never forgotten, "My we always remember our family and friends who have passed on. May we never forget family and friends who are with us, and may our children never forget us." And at any Jewish table the traditional Le Chiem, to life! www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+le+chiem+from+fiddler+on+the+roof&view=detail&mid=1CEF4A4036AF549D40141CEF4A4036AF549D4014&FORM=VIRE
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 15, 2022 19:15:59 GMT -8
Wonderful thoughts.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 14, 2023 11:45:57 GMT -8
I was struggling with whether to post this Christmas anecdote. Let the dead rest. That sort of thing.
But my brother was in for lunch yesterday and somehow it came up where he told an old tale of a Christmas Past.
He says he was about 25. He was certainly a church-goer in those days. And one year when he came home for Christmas, he told my father that the reason he didn't bring any presents with him was that he made a donation in kind to some charity organization.
He was shocked (and this is consistent behavior, although I don't remember this incident specifically) that his father then lit into him pretty harshly, about how stupid that was, etc. So if my older brother is a little morally bent at times, I do need to remember the kind of Boot Camp environment he often had to live through.
That's really a sad anecdote when generosity was repaid by scorn. But my father could be quite malevolent at times. It's just how it was.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 14, 2023 13:07:55 GMT -8
That is pretty sad. My father was no bleeding heart, he had been in the 82nd Airborne. But I have no doubt that had I come home and said something like your brother did, my father would have been somewhat surprised, but then would have asked me more about what I did and why I did it. After that talk was over he would have probably told me I had done a good thing and then have either bought some presents in my name or contributed money to the various causes I had given money to, unless they were left-wing.
My father could be very tough, but he was very generous and softened up a bit as he/we got older.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 14, 2023 13:50:40 GMT -8
The story my mother used to tell was that my father's father warned her before she got married that he could be a mean son of a bitch. Well...he could be quite cruel. He had some kind of psychological response to certain things that he seemed to have no control over.
For example, one day an employee (Jim, a very swell, mild-mannered guy...and I would still consider him a friend to his day, although I haven't seen him in years) needed to take off because his dog had died or was dying or needed care...something like that. My dad literally flipped out and basically fired him when Jim said that he just had to get home. And, believe me, there was almost assuredly no job pressing that couldn't be set aside for an afternoon. I got in my father's face about this either while it was going on or after. But to no avail.
So welcome to my upbringing. My father could be a cruel man. But the hard part is that you didn't ever know when that part would assert itself. More than one holiday dinner became a shambles when he would get in a fight with someone. I stopped coming to family engagements for a time when I moved out of the house.
Am I bent because of this? Well, there are two ways to go when one is around an abusive person. Either you sort of automatically become like them, or you quite consciously reject being like that. I chose the latter. Doesn't mean at all that I can't be an asshole. But, Jesus H. Christ, I've been to boot camp. There's a reason I'm not a Snowflake and that no one on the internet (or likely in real life) can ever get my goat. They are all pikers compared to my dad.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 14, 2023 17:56:31 GMT -8
My father could be a cruel man. So was mine. He was a career Marine and prone to violence. I think the children of violent men learn to read to signs of an impending explosion and it makes us able to detect the violence in others and ourselves. I've certianly never been reluctant to use violence in some of my former professions. I've seen death in some of its most violent forms, ocasionally admininstered by me. Now that I'm old, a little crippled up and slow, I won't provoke violence, but I won't run either. Mark Twain once said, "all young men hate their fathers more or less, in time they learn to forgive them".
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 14, 2023 19:21:25 GMT -8
One of my dad's oldest and closest friends stopped by out of the blue today. He could be a real asshole and (in politics) screwed over my dad one time. But that's politicians for you. And yet my only thought was warmth, the good ol' days, and camaraderie. None of that old stuff mattered. That's just how normal guys are. Of course, outside of Jesus Christ, I'm the only blameless person in the world. We talked about old times. He and my father were founding members of an elite poker club. It's still going on, although there are some new faces (some politicians, ex big-wig officials, etc.). I hosted a game at my house years ago and two or three of the top brass of PSNS was there. They had to leave a number that they could be reached (before cell phones, of course). And the joke was that when the phone would ring for something, we assumed he was being informed of WWIII. My father was known as "The Bull" in those circles, and that's a name he actually cherished. And in terms of poker play, it suited him. A Marine (or any guy) is going to know the depths and raunchiness of the back-and-forth between friends, especially at a poker game where the alcohol was flowing. One founding member of the group is black and he's still there. And although I doubt they ever used the n-word, it was a constant running joke about him being black and of course he could give as good as he get. No one cried or called the NAACP. But your average yute of today would have soiled his or her pants if they had overheard the back-and-forth. Pansies. This friend who stopped by showed one of the gifts he was giving at their yearly gift exchange. Full SizeI suppose I should blur that fellow's face out. But there's no harm. Look at the enlarged version to see the graphic that he had printed on it. He was very proud of that and wanted to share it with us. Just down the hall from my office is where my dad would host "Home" games when it was his turn. They would rotate the game around and I sat in on them from time to time.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 14, 2023 19:24:38 GMT -8
My father wasn't cruel, he just had a bad temper at times. I think there is a difference. He might over react to a situation and we could pay for it. After such occasions I might wonder what I had done that was so horrible. Then I would ruminate on the injustice of the harsh punishment meted out for a relatively small crime. It was hard to understand. That said, I cannot remember him ever trying to belittle me or hurt my feelings with an insult or such. In fact, he probably praised me too much for things I accomplished. The last time my father tried to hit me, he threw his back out and I had to help him get up and into bed. He didn't hit me after that. When I was three or four, after any such, to my mind, unjust punishment, I would blame God not my parents. Interesting how a child thinks. As to loosing one's temper, I can still do so, but have things under much better control than before. I believe one can lose one's temper for all sorts of reasons, but one has to be careful not to let anger feed anger. There is a sort of stimulation that, if one let's it take over, can get out of control.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 14, 2023 19:35:45 GMT -8
You are a better man than I. First, I generally do not like assholes. Second, and more important, if someone screwed my father over, I would be out for blood. I admit that I have a very long memory and am not the forgiving sort for "friends" who take advantage of "friendship." Finally, I may be wrong, but I am guessing that his screwing your father entailed some sort of dishonesty. I despise liars. If it didn't, then the first and second points above still apply. Perhaps I am not a normal guy.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 14, 2023 19:39:46 GMT -8
Well, my aversion to Victimology means I won't be relaying any such stories. But there were oodles of them. I'm glad that your father simply had a temper.
But there were many good times too. My own temper is almost always limited to inanimate objects. I don't take things out on people.
The world is full of crap, shitty people, and sometimes we ourselves add to the pile. One of the core Christian ideas (Jewish as well) is to pray that one doesn't get what one deserves.
May the LORD smile on you and be gracious to you. —Numbers 6:25
He does not punish us for all our sins; he does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve. – Psalm 103:10
Earthly fathers tend to not be so picky sometimes.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 14, 2023 19:45:18 GMT -8
It involved a lack of political support when his campaign needed it. Of course, I heard only one side of the story.
But it was good to see him again. Our family ties go back well over 50 years. It is what it is. He has also been good to us in other ways. So it's just that old (and primary) Kungian Rule: Life is Complicated.
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