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Post by artraveler on Aug 16, 2021 12:16:06 GMT -8
Biden is speaking now. He is so full of shit that my monitor turned brown. He almost started the whisper crap again. They must haver loaded him with drugs. This is down right scary
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 16, 2021 13:04:28 GMT -8
This country has effectively experienced a Coup D'etat. Whether or not one believes Biden was actually elected, there can be no doubt that the man is not mentally capable of performing his presidential duties. Someone other than Biden is running things and that is a Coup D'etat by any definition.
At best, we are experiencing another Woodrow Wilson debacle.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 16, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -8
Trump wanted to get out of Afghanistan Yep, so have I but that is nothing but a feeble excuse (can we just say Biden for feeble excuse?). Every President from Ronald Reagan on has wanted to separate from this shit hole of a place. I say place because it is not a country it is not a nation. It is a place filled with about 75 tribes, who mostly speak the same language and love and hate each other with dazzling regularity. the only constant is they hate foreigners more often in unison. When the foreigners leave they go back to gloriously killing each other and raping the women.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 16, 2021 15:25:36 GMT -8
Glenn Greenwald lays out exactly how we have been lied to about Afghanistan by the military-industrial-political-financial-intelligence-foreign-policy complex. He also shows this is nothing new. They lied and people died. Who cares? Ours is a decadent and degenerate society. This was already clear in the 1970s, but we had a stroke of luck with the election of Ronald Reagan. Since 1989, we have given away power and prestige never had before at an insane pace. Thirty years from the pinnacle of history to the edge of the abyss. It took the Western Roman Empire several hundred years to pull off a similar slide. Everything happens more quickly these days.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 16, 2021 15:36:45 GMT -8
The military is going to fly 30,000+ Afghan refugees from Kabul to military bases in the USA. These people could be airlifted to a number of different bases around the Middle East more quickly. They could also be more properly vetted before being allowed into the USA. Does the word, "terrorism" ring a bell? What is worse, the military has told us that Americans will not be given priority in airlifted from Afghanistan. How is this possible? Americans to the back of the line.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 16, 2021 17:18:13 GMT -8
How is this possible? Because the Biden Administration hates Americans and since they know they can not win an honest election is seeking to change the voters. Our government is at war with us.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 16, 2021 19:08:54 GMT -8
We have seen the disasters the Biden cabal is capable of creating at the border and now in the Middle East. There are three potential targets for further exploration. Taiwan, Korea, and Israel. Any one or all three could be on the block for the next B B (Bidden Blunder).
Bad news seems to come in threes so any one could be next, but don't relax on the next, the other two could just be another series of three.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 16, 2021 19:47:01 GMT -8
I believe Taiwan is next on the menu.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 17, 2021 8:46:36 GMT -8
This should give you an idea of just how bad things are. Does anyone truly believe this was not planned by Biden and those surrounding him? One has to work at creating such chaos so quickly. Up to 40,000 Americans stranded Don't forget, the Biden Regime has said Americans will not be given any priority when it comes to getting out. I do believe this will kill what little standing Biden had in the country and the world. As the below quote shows, the apparatus is already hanging this 100% around Biden's neck. Don't believe it. Many people were involved with this disaster. Poor Biden probably doesn't even know what's going on half the time.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 17, 2021 9:45:47 GMT -8
Does anyone truly believe this was not planned by Biden and those surrounding him? We have an entire class of officials, appointed and elected who have betrayed their oath of office. The same on I took in March of 1970. "solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion". When I left government service no one told me that oath was no longer in force or that it was only good as long as I was an employee of the Defense Department. Every member of the Biden Administration took the same oath, many of them several times, and they have willingly broken it. They are all guilty of treason, bring on the gallows and firing squads.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 17, 2021 15:29:23 GMT -8
Although we surely don’t support the methods of the Taliban, we might well understand their point of view given that we would love nothing more than to rid our nation of the foreign invader of Leftism.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 17, 2021 16:01:04 GMT -8
This man hits the nail on the head. Our elites are trash The damage being done by this "planned" retreat is enormous. Too much of what is happening is completely illogical unless someone in charge desires to damage America. Does anyone doubt that Biden is in the pocket of the CCP and Obama's people are pushing the import of Muslims into the USA?
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 17, 2021 16:09:20 GMT -8
Absolutely true. What many people may be missing is that the USA withdrawal was the removal of only 2,500-3,000 troops. The Taliban has apparently only about 75,000 hardcore members. The Afghan army had 300,000. Yet....The country collapsed in in a week. How is this possible?
The USA military left Bagram Airbase without contacting the Afghan military. We just bugged out and left the door open. How is this possible?
Something is very fishy about all of this. One would almost think that there are those in our military who want to give the US military a reputation for fecklessness and prove that we are, what the CCP calls, a paper tiger. There is more than incompetence here. There is treason. This is deep within the system.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 17, 2021 18:46:39 GMT -8
There is more than incompetence here. There is treason. This is deep within the system. I won't disregard garden variety incompetence. I'm sure we have all seen it in every place in society. However, it takes a special kind of stupidity to be an incompetent bureaucrat. At the upper levels of administration it goes from stupidity and incompetence to treason.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 18, 2021 15:16:31 GMT -8
This is exactly what I believe.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 18, 2021 20:46:24 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 19, 2021 8:11:21 GMT -8
It might be assumed that promotion is not based on competency in military tactics but competency in apologizing for sodomy.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 19, 2021 11:22:01 GMT -8
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 19, 2021 12:18:12 GMT -8
Even now, the author does not get it. Our mission should never have been "giving the Afghan people the chance to live free." It should have simply been to get or kill Osama bin Laden and as many of his Al Quaeda compandres possible. If we had to have a second step, it should have been to destroy the Taliban. In the end, bin Laden was killed in Pakistan more than a decade after we landed in Afghanistan and the Taliban just grew stronger.
For a moment, let's pretend that much of what drove this wasn't avarice and the promotion of our military-industrial complex. Then why were we there?
Excuse me for being vulgar, but Americans generally know fuck-all about the rest of the world. When will we figure out that if the USA is a bright light to the world, there must be a lot of darkness around. Maybe we should understand that even we don't have the kW power to shed light everywhere darkness reins. We need to conserve our energy to keeping our light shining.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 19, 2021 12:41:26 GMT -8
Oh, I totally agree. I was reading through that article (skimming really) when he was asking a Bravo-like rhetorical question at the beginning of each paragraph: Was it worth it? That he never really answered the question in regards to mission objectives and expectations — and what went wrong — was a strong hint that he was as clueless as the rest of them.
But his lack of frankness may have had more to do with ingrained and habitual political correctness. Toward that understanding, we should probably acknowledge that “rag heads,” “camel fuckers,” and “Dune n-words” are now likely completely unacceptable terms for use in and around the U.S. military. That’s not to say that racial terms serve a useful purpose. But these words (and other ideas) have almost assuredly been white-washed and painted-out by the same broad brush that insists that “Islam is a religion of peace.” That is to say, simple truths about Islam and Muslims will likely get you kicked out of the military. There likely exists no lexicon or language for discussing the truth of the situation. So lies (20 year’s worth) became the automatic and easy fallback position.
I *believe* there are several factors in play in this mess:
1) Promotion in the military has less to do with military competence than it does with being adept at promoting the Leftist social agenda. I’ll let you and Artler decide where incompetence ends and treachery begins, but I would not underrate incompetence. Another way of saying this is that many of the decision-makers are quite competent at judging things through a Leftist/Progressive lens of “nation building” (which is another word for basically international socialism). But they are totally clueless (or unable) to parse things through a national-interest lens.
2) One commenter on another article said that he thought Obama stayed in Afghanistan because he thought it would weaken our military. I would add to that: Because he thought it was putting Muslim interests over U.S. interests. There may be a small percentage who think this way. But clearly if you are president, that small percentage can be highly influential.
3) Religious zealotry. When you declare that “Islam is a religion of peace,” despite ample historical and modern evidence to the contrary, you are basically evangelizing your world vision. This is clearly how the preppie types such as George W. think. Facts be damned, the self-serving, virtue-signaling ideology trumps all. I’m such a nice guy, I’m going to bring peace and prosperity to those backward peoples. And I don’t care how much blood and treasure I have to steal from my own land in order to prove my point.
4) Certainly there’s the interests and inertia of the military-industrial complex. Perhaps this should be #1 on the list. It’s hard to know.
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