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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 7:15:06 GMT -8
Sometimes it doesn't take much to amuse me. Here's a video of the largest steam locomotive on earth. Note the billowing clouds of global-warming steam.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 9:08:38 GMT -8
That video was beautifully filmed. Budding cinematographists could do much worse than to watch it to the end. Trains are very popular in our home. My first train ride was when I was a boy of 8 or 9. It was somehow connected with my school. Since then I have ridden on trains on the East Coast and East Texas. But my main experience with trains has been overseas. I tried to recall in which countries I have taken trains and the following is a partial list. (It could be a complete list) England, France, Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, India, China, Japan and Taiwan. The differences between trains in these countries could be vast. From the bullet trains in Japan to the dumps in China there was a huge expanse. But I understand things have improved in China. Whenever we visited the State Fair of Texas, we would visit a display of old trains and locomotives which stood on unused tracks next to the fair grounds. There was one huge locomotive which might have been another Big Boy. I seem to recall the guide saying it was the biggest steam engine which ever hugged the rails. This same museum has moved to Frisco, Texas just a few miles from us. They were being pushed out from their location at the State Fair and someone donated land off the toll road. They had great plans for the new location. Clearly, it has taken them much longer than they thought it would, to get things going, but it appears they are now pretty close.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 9:27:05 GMT -8
Best of luck to the Museum of the American Railroad. There used to be a steam locomotive that ran in a small track in and around the Camp 6 Logging Museum at Tacoma's Point Defiance Park. I know I road on it at least once as a child. Best I can find is that is was closed down in 2010 when they ran out of funding:
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Post by artraveler on Jun 29, 2022 12:39:54 GMT -8
One of the most scenic and interesting train trips is from Durango CO through the mountains to Silverton CO. I highly recommend the trip either way. It is a four hour trip each way but there are buses that go to and from Silverton Turing an all day experience into a more enjoyable half day train ride. www.durangotrain.com
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 13:33:19 GMT -8
Do you suppose there's a stop on the way for whiskey and hookers? But, seriously, I would absolutely love to take that trip. The Cascade Canyon Express is $81 for a five-hour ride. Sounds like a deal.
I wasn't aware of the San Juan National Forest, which is in Western Colorado. That would be a convenient meeting place I guess.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 14:11:13 GMT -8
I have not taken that train, but did see it while visiting Durango many years ago. Very impressive. Just as impressive is the train which runs through the Royal Gorge. I also didn't take the train, but drove over the bridge, which was quite an experience. The bridge road is made of wooden planks, and there were people walking over the bridge as I, slowly, drove over it. Royal Gorge
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 14:39:22 GMT -8
Wow. Royal Gorge looks amazing as well. I just read about an Amtrak train hitting some kind of fully-loaded dump truck. I think one of these private trains is the better way to go.
And thinking like a guy, I wondered how long it would take to hacksaw through enough thickness of cable to make that bridge start to wobble.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 15:29:46 GMT -8
As I recall, you don't need to start sawing through the cables to make it move. Perhaps it was just my imagination, but I believe there was some movement of the bridge. I first walked about half-way across and then went back and drove all the way across. Both times, I did not like the feeling of being suspended about 1,000 feet above the river and rocks below. As a young man, heights did not bother me at all. I have stood on top of 50 story building and looked over the side without getting queezy. I remember walking some way over the Rio Grand Gorge Bridge, which is about 600 hundred feet above the river, and not being at all bothered. But after my son was born, things changed drastically. I now do not like heights and avoid them if possible. I wonder if I my psychology somehow changed with my subconscious now warning me away from needless risks in order to take care of my child. Perhaps "responsibility for others makes one less daring, but more caring." I coined that phrase and am now copyrighting it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 18:06:15 GMT -8
I think that's no doubt true to some extent. When I was a kid, we were climbing in trees much of the day. As a nimble, skinny teenager (or younger), there is a "feel" you have for such things that I don't have now. We used to run around on roofs. Now I almost cower when having to do anything on a roof. And it's not for fear of falling, per se. It's just that I don't have that "feel" of light competence that I did as a kid. There could indeed be some kind of age-induced safety measure...something telling you that you can't do that kind of stuff anymore.
But that's relative. If the bridge looked sturdy, I'd have no problem walking over a deep canyon. It would even be fun. But in the back of my mind always these days is "What dumb-ass kid or quasi-adult is maintaining these structures? And can they bother to tear themselves away from their phones long enough to do regular maintenance and inspection?"
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 10, 2022 11:53:18 GMT -8
The Duchess of Hamilton has nice curves:
When they go inside the engine nearer the end, I think that's the best part.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 10, 2022 12:54:58 GMT -8
Beautiful train. Note the similarity to a modern bullet train in Taiwan.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 11, 2022 7:21:01 GMT -8
The interesting bit is that it is just an exterior cowling. When WWII (or one?) came, they removed that exterior aerodynamic skin because it was impractical in regards to servicing the engine. But who says one always has to be practical? The Art Deco look is magnificent. Some hate it (and I can see why). But it certainly made a visual statement.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 11, 2022 8:39:56 GMT -8
I wonder how much the cowling actually cut down drag? It was WWII.
Can you imagine being one of the guys shoveling coal into the boiler from London to Glasgow? Talk about backbreaking work.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 11, 2022 8:45:57 GMT -8
Given that the record for the time was 114 mph, I can't imagine that the cowling adding much for than 10% efficiency. That's just a guess.
In the video they show the steam-powered coal-shoveler that shifted coal nearer the engine so that the shoveler didn't have to reach back so far into the coal car. The coal would be pushed forward. Apparently this was made necessary not to save backbreaking work but because enough coal could not be shoveled into the boilers fast enough otherwise, although I'm sure the coal shovelers appreciated the saved steps.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 11, 2022 9:03:57 GMT -8
It was when I saw that bit that I thought how hard the work must have been. Hard and dirty.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 10, 2022 11:35:31 GMT -8
A nice presentation on the evolution of trains in Britain:
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 10, 2022 18:17:13 GMT -8
Very enjoyable and informative.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 10, 2022 20:17:26 GMT -8
You can tell that the British take their railroads very seriously. I was surprised that so many faithful reproductions of early works had been made. And first class meant having a roof over your head. Second class meant no roof. Sort of funny those early passenger cars.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 11, 2022 9:00:22 GMT -8
I suppose they were following tradition. If you read a fair amount of 19th century English literature, you will come across government Mail Coaches. The less wealthy sat on top, while those who could afford it sat inside. A number of Dickens' characters traveled in this manner.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 11, 2022 9:29:16 GMT -8
Third class was where you had to help shovel the coal. Rimshot.
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