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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 28, 2024 18:29:06 GMT -8
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 28, 2024 19:22:42 GMT -8
I liked that video very much. Interesting on a couple of levels for me.
1) The Japanese owner exemplified the typical Japanese trait of dedicating his whole being to making the best product he could make. This trait is disappearing in Japan. I have a sushi knife which I bought about thirty years ago and it was expensive when I bought it. I recently checked on line to see if the manufacturer was still around and found that the man had closed shop in 2015 as he could not find anyone interested in taking the time and making the effort to produce top quality hand-made knives.
2) I love the way that chalk is manufactured and the similarities between producing noodles and, steel billet which was not mentioned. Extrusion is such an important process.
3) The young Korean had the dream and courage to carry on the production of a valued product that was of high quality and in a way that cannot be rushed.
Of course Mr. Watanabe and the new Korean owner made/make money, but they do so by producing something others value highly. And they don't cut corners to squeeze the last penny out of it. It is wonderful that in this case, putting out a good product is rewarded.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 29, 2024 7:13:00 GMT -8
Oh, wow. So this is a trend then. That's too bad. I thought if fascinating, even a little hilarious, that they had re-purposed some food manufacturing equipment for the process. But then why not? They are chalk noodles after all. That he brought the owner to tears with the comment something like "Chalk may be going extinct but let's make sure the best chalk is the last to go" said a lot. I have a very small chalkboard, sort of a decorative piece of Americana (the office is full of the stuff), that is 11" wide by 22" tall. It's mostly for display but you can write on it. It's hanging on a wall. And I have in storage in the back room a bona fide 67" wide x 47" schoolroom framed chalkboard, complete with the chalk tray spanning the entire bottom. My father salvaged it from Coontz Junior High in a charity event where, in particular, the brick was being salvaged to be resold to help a local notable person with a health problem (kidneys?). I took part in that. My father also took home a number of bricks for his own use and made an indoor and outdoor fireplace out of them. There was plenty of brick to go around. It was a yuge brick building. The school burnt down on December 15, 1974. My brother was on the fire department at the time (but not working that shift) and phoned us about it in the middle of the night. Looking out the window, the sky was aglow in orange and red a mile or two away. We went to the site and watched for a while. Later we learned that an engine truck had been parked too close to one of the walls. The wall collapsed and significantly damaged the truck. Here's an assorted pack of the Hagoromo chalk for $12.50. If I could find a place to mount the large chalkboard, I just might get some. Note that the large chalkboard itself is quite heavy and it is no small matter to mount it anywhere. Still, I totally get what they're talking about in regards to quality chalk. The crap you buy now just doesn't work well. Lots of dust. Doesn't draw smoothly. Tends to skip or draw not at all in places making a blotchy line. And the "feel" is just not good. I'd love to try some to this chalk. Maybe I will get a small pack just to support a lost art. This one at Amazon is marketed as "non-toxic, for kids" but also notes it's for professional use as well. It's obviously just their regular chalk. As noted in the video, the chalk is actually edible. This video is related (and also from Business Insider). I found it a bit heavy on the "saving an old culture" angle. As you said, these businesses need to make money. But there is an angle of keeping the old alive and appreciating it. It just goes a little what I think is "woke" heavy on it in this video. But I was unaware of the types of deserts or candy such as that rainbow one. That's a lot of work to make it.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 29, 2024 9:21:51 GMT -8
I got a completely different vibe from this video than that of the chalk video. Frankly, I thought this one sounded like a promotional advert from the Singapore Tourist Board. Singporeans often have a way of speaking as if their words were taken from the government-owned Straits Times newspaper. This guy sounded like that. I checked and voila' it turns out the shop/restaurant is located in an area of Singapore (Katong) in which the government wants to promote the Peranakan heritage.
For decades, the government tried to get rid of just about everything old and to do with the past. The prime minister, Lew Kwan Yew, wanted to tear down the Raffles Hotel until Stanford Research, as I recall, told him, "uhh Mr. Prime Minister more people around the world have heard of the Raffles Hotel than have heard of Singapore. So if you want to increase your tourism, maybe you should not tear it down." They didn't tear it down, they just ruined it by remodeling it into a 10 star hotel that only rich tourists, wealthy businessmen and government officials would visit.
As to the actual Kwee Lapis cake, while its origins are Peranakan, females of such heritage are called Nonya, this dessert has its origins in the Dutch East Indies, i.e. Indonesia. It is based on a layered cake which is called Baumkuchen. The layers look like the rings of a tree cut through the middle. I have eaten Kwee Lapis a number of times. I do not find it that good, but that is probably due to my Western taste in desserts.
One thing from that video that jumped out at me was the statement that the baker no longer uses local plants for coloring. In particular he uses food coloring for his green layer instead of pandan leaves which have a very distinct flavor. So, his cake is not truly "traditional."
One has to understand that Singapore, as it has very little of interest to most tourists, has created a Disneyland-like setting/culture for such things. They try create an ideal spot, which never existed. It is wonderful looking, clean and shiny, but not actually the way things were.
Glad you came across and posted this video.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 29, 2024 9:58:30 GMT -8
No argument with that, although I did like the portions showing the different treats and how (at least some of them) were made. Yep. It all did sound a little too rehearsed and programmed. Yep. That's sort of when something started to stink. I hear that San Francisco has gone in the opposite direction. Not sure that's so good for tourism. So in Singapore "It's a small world after all." I won't post the music. You really don't want to get that stuck in your head. We're living more and more in a theme-park world. Nothing is particularly real even as it strives so hard to ooze with "heritage."
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 29, 2024 10:12:58 GMT -8
These and some of the shots of the museum, were the best part of the video. I love nonya food. It is a mix of Malay/Indonesian and Chinese. Genuine nonya food was hard to find, even when I lived in Spore years a go. One found it generally in old shop stalls and places which might make most Americans uncomfortable. No me.
There was a nice place called Aziza's on Emerald Hill Rd, which specialized in Malay food, but she got chased away because she somehow irritated the government. There is still a restaurant called Rendezvous which was pretty good. A few other places came and went.
One of my favorite nonya foods was Mee Siam, but good Mee Siam was hard to find even in the 1990s.
Another one was Nasi Lemak, which can vary somewhat depending where one finds it. It comes from Malaya, but there are many variations on the theme.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 29, 2024 11:12:10 GMT -8
I would love to sample some of those dishes. Have Mdm. Flu make some, pack it in dry ice, and send it over. It's a special treat to eat somewhere that is family-owned...or at least is not a franchise. There is absolutely nothing special about eating at a chain restaurant. Some of them (Olive Garden) are passable. Most are a sad excuse for food. That's why I like this one place near the office called Spiro's. It's owned by some chick. It's her menu. The pizza is way way over-salted (that's where I had my birthday lunch the other day). But the salads and sandwiches are pretty good. At least it doesn't resemble the cookie-cutter mediocre sameness of a franchise restaurant. But, of course, some of the mom and pops can be pretty horrible as well. I used to go to this one Chinese restaurant just down the hill from us on a regular basis several years ago. But then the quality of their food went down measurably. Hell, whatever they were trying to pass off as chicken barely looked and tasted like chicken. Could have been poodle for all I knew. That's a good looking plate of food, right there.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 31, 2024 7:11:48 GMT -8
I don't know if you'll find this interesting, Mr. Kung. But it's behind the scenes in a Japanese restaurant.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 31, 2024 8:23:40 GMT -8
I found it very interesting. To my eyes, that was a Chinese restaurant in Japan. Such places are pretty common in Japan. Each of the items is typically Chinese except the miso soup. The food has been somewhat adapted to Japanese tastes. Everything is a bit lighter. The chef also has an excellent technique with that wok. The dumplings are called jiauzu or something like that.
I guarantee you would like the food.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 31, 2024 8:45:06 GMT -8
It would have been all over everywhere if I had tried that.
My mouth was watering while watching that, and had just recently eaten.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 31, 2024 19:13:22 GMT -8
Speaking of food, Jacques Pépin is still doing his thing:
I haven't seen him on PBS in a long time. But I don't have the TV on much these days. I used to love watching him and Julia Child.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 31, 2024 19:17:07 GMT -8
He is my favorite TV chef. I too loved watching Julia and Jacques cook. Flu Jr. still watches Pepin now and then. Jr. loves cooking programs and there are many such programs streamed these days. I think virtually all of Pepin's old shows are to be found on places like Roku and Tubi, as well as others.
Just watched the video and called in Jr. to watch with me. As he came in one saw a pair of hands chopping shrimp and Jr. said, "Jacques Pepin" in an excited voice.
That meal looked great, and so simple.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 1, 2024 6:46:39 GMT -8
That's cool that he likes Pepin too. And, yeah, his old shows must be all over Roku and Tubi. But this one showed up in my YouTube feed and I realized I hadn't watched him in a while.
I love his confidence, his skill with the knife, and his explanations for why things are made the way they are. He's anything but an arrogant food snob (despite being French) although he excudes a gentle air of authority.
But you'll never see me chopping onions like he does.
Here's one from some years ago that starts out with:
I've never tried it, but he puts turnip in with the potatoes for mashed potatoes. And to see him carve up a chicken is to see skill on display. And it is exciting. French cooking is known for being very good and sophisticated. But I think I've learned through Pepin that the food is usually very simple. It's just quality ingredients prepared well.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 1, 2024 8:05:46 GMT -8
Frugality is obviously also a part of French cooking. I found this interesting:
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 1, 2024 11:01:03 GMT -8
I might have mentioned this before, but we had a friend who was a French chef and he owned and ran a restaurant which had a Michelin star. He was a fantastic cook, an artist and could be a prick. Exactly what I would expect from a French chef. I think most great chefs are artistic and from what I've seen they are also pricks, more often than not. Not only the French ones.
Our friend's favorite meal was roast chicken with roast potatoes. He ate this every Sunday. Very simple, but very good. I once asked him what was the most difficult thing to cook and he replied, "the simple things." I didn't get it at once, but it came to me that to maintain a constant high level in cooking is very difficult. You can often cover mistakes you make when cooking some sophisticated concoction, but it is very difficult to do so with simple, straight forward dishes. One has to be good at what one does.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 1, 2024 11:35:22 GMT -8
Jr. and I just finished watching the video and I will again say that we never tire of watching Pepin cook. I have not had Coq au Vin in years and must say I was never a fan of the dish. But after watching this video, I can say I never had Coq au Vin in my life. The meals I ate always had too much wine in them and the sauce was much redder than that of Jacques'. That meal looked absolutely delicious. It is something one could have on a Sunday after church and not eat any supper.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 1, 2024 17:35:17 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of hacks and posers out there. One would suppose that Pepin was doin' it right.
Interesting that talented people (your chef friend) are so often pricks. I'm not sure why.
I remember seeing the following segment on PBS a long time ago. Every since then I've tried to emulate his way of making omelets. Alas, my pan is not as good as the one he has, nor do I have his touch. Still, I get what he's talking about. And even if I was able to cook it like he does (the tender version...or either version), I don't think I could gather up and form that omelet at the end like he does. Still, it's worth trying to emulate his technique.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 1, 2024 18:44:22 GMT -8
I suspect to achieve excellence in any area requires a certain single-mindedness which blocks out anything, including people, that distracts one. The object of one's attention is, or becomes, more important that just about anything else. And those that pursue such objects are generally somewhat obsessed and odd.
Once one achieves one's goal, there might also be an added trait of conceit. Achieving difficult goals is not something a great many people can claim to have done. Having done so, it is perhaps not unnatural many feel superior to the rest of us.
It is probably even worse for those who were lucky enough to be born with great natural talent in some area and didn't need to work to hard to improve it. Arrogance is a danger lurking around every corner for such people.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 1, 2024 18:54:52 GMT -8
It is fascinating how life can throw a curve ball at you, and change your fate and the fate of others.
Pepin was in an almost fatal car crash in 1974. His Wiki biography states;
While this no doubt robbed many upscale diners of the opportunity to taste his cooking, it opened the door for Pepin to become something of a cultural phenomenon and teach millions how to not only become better cooks, but enjoy cooking as well.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2024 7:22:22 GMT -8
I like your explanation. Add to that, or concurrent with that, is perhaps the frustration of not being seen as the genius they are...or think themselves to be.
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