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Oct 2, 2019 7:40:58 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 2, 2019 7:40:58 GMT -8
That's quite an impressive set of displays, and I agree that the feminine pulchritude on display was not the least part of it. I wonder what their actual fighting skills are. But the tanks seem to be less well sloped than I would expect from a modern tank.
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Oct 2, 2019 8:15:16 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Oct 2, 2019 8:15:16 GMT -8
An old Chinese saying goes, "One does not use good steel to make nails, and one does not use good men (women for today's woke party) to make soldiers." So I have my doubts as to their fighting abilities. They look too good.
For an idea of what ferocious female warriors looked like, I suggest the reader study the women fighters of the Great Patriotic War. I was told by a Hungarian of the war generation that Axis soldiers did there best to avoid fights with Soviet female fighters as they were especially cruel to those they took prisoner. Such action by females is quite common throughout history.
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Oct 2, 2019 8:50:55 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 2, 2019 8:50:55 GMT -8
Nice legs on the red army chicks. It’s interesting that even with the faux goal of “equality” that the Communists supposedly ascribe to that they allow their women to look like women and not Hillary in a gray Mao-ish pantsuit. Those ladies look like they could break into a chorus of…
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Oct 2, 2019 9:42:05 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 2, 2019 9:42:05 GMT -8
Well, that would be "These Boots Are Made for Marching", but it's the same scansion. One military history reference book I read identified the "Sukhomlinov Effect" -- the army with the best uniform is unlikely to be the army that wins.
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Oct 2, 2019 9:46:41 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 2, 2019 9:46:41 GMT -8
The Third Reich certainly had cooler uniforms.
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Oct 2, 2019 11:17:22 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Oct 2, 2019 11:17:22 GMT -8
I would have to agree with you. I think the Waffen SS had very impressive uniforms. I believe that Hitler had a large part in their design as he did with the Nazi flag.
The uniform even looks good after days of non-stop battle.
Those Red Chinese uniforms remind of those I saw in the old USSR. As I recall, some of the Soviet Uniforms were even more colorful. Funny, as everyone else's clothing was very drab.
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Oct 2, 2019 11:29:09 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 2, 2019 11:29:09 GMT -8
The showdown scene is absolutely ridiculous…and exactly why I like this movie. Carol O’Conner is also over the top…and hilariously so. And that squinty-eyed kraut in the tank is such a memorable character. I own that on Blu-ray. It may be time to view it again. One of my favorite cinematic Nazis is from Where Eagles Dare: Derren Nesbitt as Von Hapen
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Oct 2, 2019 11:57:45 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 2, 2019 11:57:45 GMT -8
I remember the MAD satire of Where Eagles Dare (I haven't seen the movie itself). I especially recall Richard Burton's lesson on English-German and German-English and such (i.e., movie German). He said they'd be all right unless it was shown in Germany, in which case they might have a problem. When the woman asked what that might be, he answered, "World War III." The key to the satire was that the little elves who helped a German cobbler make shoes had a lot more skills than that, and were very pro-Allied.
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Oct 2, 2019 20:17:40 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Oct 2, 2019 20:17:40 GMT -8
The link is to a good article which lays out, in a few lines, the decades-long screw-up which has been America's and the West's China Policy. The Truth About ChinaThis is a straightforward, not too detailed, report on what our elites have done wrong and why. It is good to see such articles being published. I only wish they had been published at least 25-30 years ago when it was more than clear what was happening.
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Oct 2, 2019 21:01:38 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 2, 2019 21:01:38 GMT -8
A nice article. You may have noticed my response.
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Oct 2, 2019 22:17:09 GMT -8
Post by artraveler on Oct 2, 2019 22:17:09 GMT -8
There is no doubt that China has made immense progress over the last 70 years. Just like there was no doubt the Soviets made progress over the first 70 years of communism. The cost, without WWII, is in the millions of lives that communism always demands for it followers. It always takes everything and demands more.
The outcome in HK can only come out two ways, either China wins and the protesters are crushed, or the protesters win and China loses a lot of face. I don't see anything short of violence on a large scale coming out of this. Maybe there is a compromise everyone can live with but it seems if there were it would have been tried by now. The economy of China is in a very tender place right now and any more sanctions because of violence in HK is only going to make it worse. I am reminded of the summer of 1941 when Japan was sanctioned and they believed there was only one way out. That did not work out well either.
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Oct 3, 2019 6:01:37 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 3, 2019 6:01:37 GMT -8
It's all about power for the Chicoms. Their treaty with Britain allows autonomy in Hong Kong until 1947, but China has been slowly chipping away at that, which may never have been workable. The extradition law was an attempt to finish off autonomy, which a lot of locals realized. Hence the response. Now they want more than merely canceling the law, which has in fact happened. They know that it can be brought back again, and again, etc. And so it will be until the Chicoms get it passed.
Unless Hong Kong gains genuine independence -- perhaps something like the suzerainty arrangement the South African Republic had after 1881. But we know how that ended, too. Long term, China will absorb Hong Kong and kill the goose laying their golden eggs unless some outside power prevents it, and I don't see who would do that given that it likely would take a major war. And what would happen to Hong Kong in such a war?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 3, 2019 7:00:36 GMT -8
Mr. Kung, I was pleased to read that article by VDH this morning as well. I’m going to assume he’s captured the gist of it, particularly:
I remember twenty years ago telling people “Do not pretend the Red Chinese are anything but evil Communists.” The Rotten Children of the Sixties (included such types as Jane Fonda) had not only normalized Communism but made it commendable in the eyes of many.
The “Red Scare” was berated. McCarthy (who was essentially correct that there were Communists infiltrating the State Department) were cast off as witch-hunters.
Now we have a Marxist pope and red diaper doper babies are in the majority. Few “blue collar” or “minority” Democrat voters have the integrity to admit it, but their party is not only hostile to America but they are friends to our enemies. And Communism is our enemy.
All liberals are either evil or frauds. I love this astute bit from a commenter:
The Little Monster obsess over plastic straws. But that is a perverted gesture. The problem is not our plastic straws. The problem is these Little Monsters ignoring the truth of situation: Third-world Communists (and other shit-hole countries) are the problem in terms of pollution. And I’m not talking about the faux scare of “climate change.”
The Little Monsters want their cheap cell phones but don’t want to be reminded of the true costs so that these morons can Tweet idiotic nothings to each other.
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Oct 3, 2019 7:16:27 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 3, 2019 7:16:27 GMT -8
Yes, a good comment.
I think the underlying truth of that is the Communists believe (or believed) firmly in an ideology other than money. And if your only guiding principle is making money, you will eventually sell others the rope.
I read an article lately (I doubt I could find it again) that was, on the whole, sensible. But it included a section praising that aspect of America which does not have an ideology. I thought this writer was not only recklessly shallow but willfully blind.
One must have an ideology. Only nitwits and useful idiots have subscribed to the idea that “ideology” is an enemy. Nature abhors a vacuum, and without a good set of principles, people will latch onto anything. And that is precisely why the godless and evil Left has tried to make an evil out of having an “ideology.” They do not want people prepared to parse and refute their ideology.
Without a good and firm ideology, it’s like they say about an “open mind.” It will let in any nonsensical idea. What we need are minds closed to bad ideas. And having no other ideology than money is like having no other ideology than power. It makes one no better than a Nazi. There is no restraining force or idea but the satisfaction of one’s desire (something Libertarians should note but do not because they tend to be Little Monsters).
But even the ideologies of power and money pale in comparison to bad ideology. If one has bad ideology (such as Communism/socialism/Leftism), you have the potential to bring death and destruction to the planet on a scale that the Nazis could have only dreamt of.
The Red Chinese are rotten. We should never forget that. And we should remember that the rotten Lords of Silicon Valley have collaborated with them. And they are our enemy as well in the long run. They are selling the rope.
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Oct 3, 2019 7:21:00 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 3, 2019 7:21:00 GMT -8
The leftist toleration of foreign environmental degradation is a good reminder that their policies are based on what they want and having to do with the altruism they claim. A clean environment is a nice amenity, so they insist on it here where they live. But elsewhere? Who cares? And likewise, they don't care about the workers who produce things. If they don't have jobs, so what? It's no skin off their noses.
Note, too, that China talks a good environmental game, happily signs agreements that don't actually put any restrictions on them (but do restrict American industry), maybe even passes laws they have no intention of enforcing. For watermelons whose real concern is socialism rather than the environment, what's not to like? They don't care about the actual results.
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Oct 3, 2019 7:26:12 GMT -8
Post by artraveler on Oct 3, 2019 7:26:12 GMT -8
Communism and communists have never changed abroad or at home they seek power and have no qualms murdering as many people as necessary to obtain and maintain that power. There is no dealing with these people they must be destroyed and their political organizations discredited.
All of the traditions since the Treaty of Westphila have been ignored, or overturned and war is the only option. I don't have to like it, and I don't.
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Oct 3, 2019 8:21:30 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 3, 2019 8:21:30 GMT -8
This is definitely a religious war going on, Artler. Leftism is, for all intents and purposes, a religion.
This is why it’s sad to see so many Christians and Jews fall without a fight. They have in far too many cases not only not opposed the Left but have actively brought them in. This is akin to an article I read yesterday about a town in Sweden that is experiencing Swede flight because of so many dangerous Muslims being brought in as “refuges.” And with all kinds of laws in place to deny that Muslims are a problem, the idiots who supported these policies and politicians are now fleeing.
Having personally watched the “conservatives” around me being making too easy a peace with the Left, I think they will win. Adherence to “Jesus” has often been a refuge from actually doing anything. One might at least then have some respect for the many Jews who have cast off their heritage and religion entirely and are outward religious Leftists. To some extent, that is at least honest.
The problem is, aside from Dennis Prager and surely a local pastor or two, there are very few people of prominence who are the narrow gate, who are a role model for how to act and be. If we want people to reject Leftism, aside from Sean Hannity and Ben Shapiro screaming on TV, where can people learn how to be in a way contrary to Leftism?
Catholics are a lost tribe, and that’s quite some sizable tribe. Muslims will, without a doubt now, take over Europe within the next 75 years. Nothing can stop it. At some point America will have to take back its tactical nukes from Europe to keep them out of the hands of the Muslims. It’s always possible some semi-benevolent Hitler will arise and send them all packing, but I wouldn’t count on it. You were prescient when you wrote:
The scary thought is that China likely could withstand a nuclear exchange. They have so many people, what’s a few hundred million in losses if it means wiping out the West? The current leaders seem to be incrementalists. But what if the next Chinese leader (or cadre of leaders) is more militaristic? What if a great famine or plague were to hit China? What if the Muslims hit them with an Iranian-made nuclear bomb?
One thing I’m ambivalent about is when they (including VDH) write about the human rights abuses by the Chinese of their Muslim population. I don’t know the particulars, but they are not wrong to try to train these evil religionists into some more docile. We can virtue signal on this point all we want, but I think China’s actions are far more rational (and moral to its own citizens) than the policies of Sweden, for example.
Trump, like Reagan, is likely a last-ditch anomaly in terms of actually confronting this stuff. After Trump is out of office (whenever that is), the writing is on the wall. The entire Democrat Party is nothing but a bunch of Communists and the Republicans little more than emasculated Quislings.
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Oct 3, 2019 8:24:59 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 3, 2019 8:24:59 GMT -8
I think that’s all true. I think the overall context is having a mental and moral mindset of a child. In order to plan for the future and understand long-term consequencts, you have to be an adult.
People are thinking extremely short-term. And, like a child, they care only for what immediately effects them….or makes them feel good, thus “virtue signaling” is arguably the most popular non-prescription drug of choice.
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Oct 3, 2019 9:02:53 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Oct 3, 2019 9:02:53 GMT -8
In the movie Red Dawn, there's a scene in which an American flyer rescued by the Wolverines tells them what's going on overall in the war. At that time (over 30 years ago), our only significant ally was "half a billion Chinese". When one of the Wolverines notes that he thought there were a billion Chinese, the flyer said that there were -- and by implication half of them had been killed, presumably by nuclear attacks.
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Oct 3, 2019 9:45:30 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 3, 2019 9:45:30 GMT -8
Yikes, I don’t remember that part. People Fleeing Wester Europe Because of Muslim MigrationThe West inevitably and irrevocably is on a collision course with its own misguided policies, including everything from religion-of-peace delusions, harboring illegal aliens, global warming hysteria, abortion, legalizing drugs, environmental extremism, and facilitating the plague of “the homeless.” After all, there are only so many places you can run to. For what it’s worth, although I think Communism is evil, I think China is well positioned to stave off the effects the West has brought willingly upon itself. The same with Russia. The same with Eastern Europe to some extent. One may hate the ideology of the Chinese but one can note that it is likely that they have an organizing principle that will resist the disintegration of Western forms of Communism. That’s oxymoronic, contradictory, and just downright strange. Communism is Communism, right? And, yes, I would agree it is inherently destructive. But I do believe the Chinese Communists — perhaps even the North Korean Communists — can outlive, and protect themselves from, the disintegration our domestic Communists are bringing down upon us.
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