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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 6, 2019 12:13:34 GMT -8
Hellcats: The Epic Story of World War II's Most Daring Submarine Raidby Peter SasgenInfo: Kindle editionGenre: non-fiction Publication Date: November 2, 2010 Length: 339 pages Quick Rating: A generally good read, but a bit too love-lettery for some. And the author (such is the style these days) offers only the most superficial analysis. Summary: By 1945, the U.S. Navy's submarine force in the Pacific had sunk over a thousand enemy cargo ships and tankers supplying the food, weapons, and oil Japan needed to continue to fight. Yet this once mighty merchant fleet continued to thrive in the Sea of Japan, where, protected from American submarines by a seemingly impenetrable barrier of deadly minefields, they provided a tenuous lifeline for the Japanese. Senior American commanders believed that if these enemy ships were sunk, Japan would be forced to surrender. Here is the incredible story of Operation Barney, the daring plot to penetrate those minefields and decimate the enemy fleet. The brainchild of the dedicated sub commander Vice Admiral Charles Lockwood, the mission would hinge on a new experimental sonar system that would, with luck, guide American submarines safely past the mines and into the open sea.
Although this is about a nine-sub raid to the Sea of Japan, this is a fairly good overall account of the submarine warfare in the Pacific — at least what it was like wherever it occurred. We’re presented with a lot of letters between Lawrence Edge and his wife, like it or not. It gets to be a bit much at times. This was the human element thrown in. And it was certainly a fine thing to get some understanding of the true hardships faced by loved ones parted from each other. But it veers into treacle after about the fifth letter exchange. The raid into the Sea of Japan occurred just a few weeks before the atomic bombs were dropped on Japan. The commander (eventually) of all sub operations in the Pacific, Charles Lockwood, was not privy to knowledge of the bomb. For him, this raid was an attempt to bring the war to a swifter conclusion. To this reader, it seemed the next logical step. The subs had done such a good job in the Pacific, they had quite literally run out of targets worthy of a $10,000 torpedo. And Japan was dependent upon supplies ferried across their western lake. Much is made of Lockwood’s desire to gain revenge because of the sinking of the Wahoo and the death of a good friend of his, Dudley Walker “Mush” Morton. Unfortunately, the analysis of the author in this regard is superficial. You have no idea whether this was an obsession or just the normal motivation, amongst a range of motivations, for hitting back at the Japs. This is a good, fact-filled book but the author often seems reticent to engage in evaluation. And the end of the book runs aground a bit as Lockwood and the Navy come under criticism from the families of one of the subs lost on this expedition. Wasn’t it all a waste given that the war was soon to end? Lockwood certainly didn’t know this. And Admirals King and Nimitz — who were both privy to info about the bomb — heartily authorized this mission. They must have been not so certain of the end either. And, to my mind, it certainly seemed like the next logical step for the submarine service, along with a great opportunity to develop and test new sonar equipment….which did end up working rather well. But at the end the author seems too timid to call a spade a spade. Yes, it was a real shame to lose a sub (52 U.S. subs were lost in the war). But it was a war. And there was no recklessness involved from what I can see. The whole thing was very well planned. And if there was to be blame placed for the lost sub, it could easily be given to the torpedoes the subs were supplied with which often malfunctioned. I won’t give away how the sub was lost, but it seems clearly another case of bad torpedoes. If you fire first at a target that can shoot back — and the torpedoes malfunction — you can quickly find yourself up shit creek without a paddle. But aside from the author’s seeming fear of doing real analysis, and the too treacly letter content, I found this book a near page-turner from start to finish. For those looking to add to a well-rounded background of the events of WWII, this is a very good book to read.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 6, 2019 13:15:59 GMT -8
They were quite right to go ahead with the mission despite the imminence of the bomb drop. Things can always go wrong. What if the Indianapolis, which carried the first bomb to Tinian, had been sunk before rather than after doing so? What if something went wrong with the bomb drop? What if the Japanese simply refused to surrender? The last is in fact the subject of an alternate history in which the last-day coup by the Army succeeds in preventing the surrender, forcing a landing on Kyushu.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 6, 2019 18:40:20 GMT -8
That’s a good point. I really didn’t understand the author’s point of view (if only in not noting the bloody obvious). Far riskier and deadlier ventures had already been undertaken in the Pacific. Name whatever the latest island was that the Marines took at great cost, for instance. How about the attempt to get (which they did) Yamamoto. Or the riskiest attack of all that started the whole campaign: Doolittle’s Raiders. The author seemed to be going out of his way to be a wet noodle in regards to offering analysis and context.
It seems to me the watchword for the war in the pacific was pressure, pressure, pressure. Here. There. Everywhere. It’s a big ocean. Keep putting pressure on the Japanese. And, as I noted and the book noted, the submarines themselves were enormously successful at taking out the merchant marine as well many Japanese front-line vessels.
There were two choices: Blockade or invasion. And certainly any sort of blockade would aid an invasion by starving the Japanese of supplies. And the possibility existed that the Japanese could unconditionally surrender seeing the writing on the wall. The would be literally surrounded.
It was interesting to read some of Nimitz’s thinking on the subject of the bomb. At first he gave it little regard. It may have been mentioned that he considered the thought, as you did, of whether it would actually go off or not. All kinds of things could have gone wrong (and did regarding the USS Indianapolis, for instance, including other things that could have happened as you mentioned). And the Japanese were extremely stubborn. (And, in fact, the one bomb seemed to have little effect.) But when he was shown the top-secret video of the first successful test, Nimitz truly was in awe and knew this weapon would be decisive. Seeing is believing, for sure.
And there was urgency to gain the upper hand should Russia declare war on Japan. Having a force in the Sea of Japan (possession 9/10ths of the law) had to be on King’s and Nimitz’s minds. And there was some light analysis in the book in this regard. And there would have been more if not for the flood of those letters between Mr. and Mrs. Edge.
As other reviewers noted, didn’t the author care about what any of the other crew members on any of the other subs thought? I’m not sure why the fixation on the Edge's letters. And once you had read one, you had read them all. Again (forgive my misogyny….or just reality) but this seems like another guy writing for the female audience.
Still, I found the book fact-filled and written well. One can always skip the letters. I didn’t. But upon reflection, that would be my advice to anyone reading the book.
The description of the subs getting into the Sea of Japan is a little sketchy. The author doesn’t paint the clearest picture of the operation. But once they do get into the Sea of Japan, you enter the most interesting part of the book and you get much more of a detailed description of what went on. They didn’t know what to expect. They weren’t even sure there would be many targets. In fact, the follow-up operation by another set of boats found almost no targets.
But there were targets galore on this first mission. There were there for the pickin’s although they did have to dodge a few depth charges. But mostly they were pro forma rolled off of various Jap ships ineffectively.
When they began their attacks, they weren’t sure whether there would be a large and coordinated response from anti-submarine forces when word got out that there were American subs operating in the Sea of Japan. They were surprised that there was not. They did run into a few traps set for the subs here and there. But mostly they had the run of the entire sea and could sink whatever they found that was worth a $10,000 torpedo. Many times they would just use their guns to take care of smaller craft.
The scene is bizarre at times. The would often surface and be surround by dozens of small fishing boats who gave them no notice, figuring, I guess, that it was a Japanese sub…if they even saw it at all. And the larger ships were not sitting ducks, per se, because often enough the torpedoes would either not explode or go off course. But they got their share.
It really was a slaughter. Having recently read about the Lusitania, as you had mentioned, the Germans had little over the subs in the Pacific in regards to taking out civilians. I don’t know if it was a description of an attack prior to this mission or during the mission, but at one point a sub torpedoed and sunk a large Japanese ferry or passenger liner.
The Jap merchant marine ships were almost comical in how they went down. They described one ship as receiving a torpedo and not slowing down one bit. It just kept forward at speed and got lower and lower in the water and just disappeared under it. Another ship was cracked in half by a torpedo and both sides just flopped away and immediately sunk.
Many times they counted very few survivors. Some of the boats completely sank within a minute or less. Few of the men had much time to get to lifeboats. It was a slaughter. And yet the author shied away from even commenting on this. I’m not squeamish. They had it coming. But it was a slaughter.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 6, 2019 19:16:05 GMT -8
Oddly enough, Japan's food surplus areas are in the north, including the island of Hokkaido. They sent the supplies south by ship (the rail net on the heavily mountainous islands wasn't so good), and the Allies mined the ports late in the war to disrupt their food supplies. Even if there had been no invasion, starvation might have killed as many Japanese as the bombs did.
You never know what effect a torpedo will have. Usually it would be lethal, but not always. Otto Kretschmer was frustrated trying to sink a ship carrying timber. Incidentally, the description of a ship gradually sinking is a good description of the fate of the Shinano, the largest carrier before the Forrestal (which we toured as she visited the Athens area), it having originally been intended as a sister ship to the Yamato. It was torpedoed by the Archerfish on its maiden voyage in the Inland Sea. I've heard it claimed that it was on the way to get its watertight compartment doors installed. At any rate, it wasn't as watertight as the captain seemed to think, and he continued sailing as it gradually filled with water and eventually sank.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 7, 2019 8:25:26 GMT -8
Again, I do recommend this book. But that’s a real reminder of where it fails. The author mentions B-29s mining some of the channels and harbors. The submarines on Operation Barney (the incursion into the Sea of Japan by 9 American submarines) had maps of the areas minded by the B-29s. But there was very little information in the book other than that they had mined. I would have loved to know more about how aerial mining worked, what the mines looked like, if they were free-floating or anchored to the seabed, how long they were good for, what type of mines they were (magnetic?), etc. But instead we get these endless love letters passed between the Edges. There’s an account of a dud bouncing off one of the Jap ships they were trying to sink. It was at night. The sailors on the ship heard a “thunk” and thought they had hit something. They Americans on the subs watched them shining spotlights on their own hull to see if they could see anything. Lucky them. I hadn’t heard of the sinking of the Shinano. That sounds interesting. In this book they had all kinds of interesting (even horrifying) descriptions of the various ways ships went down. Mostly they went down fairly fast. Here’s Wiki’s entry on the Shinano: When it rains it pours, I guess. Here’s another interesting fact: The book mentions that at the end of the war the submariners (pronounced at the time, and I think more logically, “sub-muh-REEN-ers”) got to look at the latest Jap subs. The Japs had completed only three of the I-400-class submarines. The amenities for the sailors were said to be sparse but the boats incredibly capable. They even could launch several aircraft from them, principally the Aichi M6A Seiran. And in order to do so, the conning tower was off-center to port which meant the helmsman had to steer several degrees to starboard just to go straight. The subs had a tremendous range. They could go anywhere in the world and back on a tank of fuel. Overall, this class of sub was an impressive beast.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 7, 2019 9:15:21 GMT -8
I don't know most of those details of aerial mining. I imagine most types of mines could be used. Certainly magnetic mines could be because that's how the British learned that Germany was using them in 1939. A German air-dropped magnetic mine landed in mud flats and was recovered intact, enabling them to figure out how it worked (and then work on a way to protect against -- degaussing).
You can imagine what it was like checking out the mine.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 7, 2019 9:30:31 GMT -8
Ooops.
The FMS (FM Sonar) that Lockwood was instrumental in shepherding along in its development ended up working rather well. I’m trying to find more info on that. Will report back.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 7, 2019 10:21:23 GMT -8
Incidentally, I once saw a promo on TV of a movie, from a submarine crew's viewpoint, that I think was about the sinking of the Shinano. It probably bore little resemblance to reality. For example, my vague recollection is that the captain told a subordinate (no doubt his XO) that he was going for the ship and I think named it. I doubt the crew of Archerfish had any idea what they had accomplished until much later -- especially since this was a brand new ship.
Other American submarines sinking major Japanese ships included Albacore (which sank the large carrier Taiho, thanks partly due to damage control officer who vented the aviation gas fumes, turning the ship into a floating bomb that eventually went off) and Cavallo (which sank Pearl Harbor veteran Shokaku, which also was significantly damaged in two previous battles -- Coral Sea, and I think Santa Cruz Islands). One might also mention the two submarines that took out 3 of Admiral Kurita's heavy cruisers (sinking 2 and forcing the other to go back to port) in the Palawan Passage on the way to Leyte Gulf, Dace and Darter. One shortly afterward ran aground on a reef, but the crew was rescued.
Some Japanese submarines carried seaplanes as early as 1942, when one made a bombing attack intended to create a forest fire (also the main goal of the later fire-balloon attacks). There were also a few Japanese gun attacks on Oregon and California. None of these attacks did any significant damage.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 7, 2019 11:54:09 GMT -8
That's a lot of bang-for-the-buck from a torpedo. I did finally find a short article on FM Sonar. It sounds like I’m running this book down after already having praised it. But this short explanation is far more informative than what is found in the book: That’s an interesting technology. It did make clear in the book that this kind of sonar had only a couple seconds of lag between 360 degree sweeps rather than the longer lag of whatever sonar they were using at the time. It had other advantages as well, although I don’t recall the specific. But certainly in the hands of a trained operator it was intuitive and quite nifty: This article explains the advantages of FM a little more: Indeed, a nifty technology….and full of vacuum tubes. It was hell’s bells to keep them working and get them tuned. The interior of a submarine is not friendly to electronics. Hell’s Bells. So far I have not been able to find a photo of the equipment or the sonar screen in action (or even in inaction).
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Post by timothylane on Sept 7, 2019 12:37:44 GMT -8
I hadn't heard of this technology. I gather just as FM is a means of modulating radio waves (as does AM), this FM sonar does the same for sound waves. I also gather this wouldn't work for groundmines, which were the primary reliance in relatively shallow waters. The mines that damaged the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau in the later stages of the Channel Dash were groundmines.
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