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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 4, 2023 10:23:04 GMT -8
I have never said, "thank you for your service" to anyone. To me, it sounds, at best, corny, and at worst, insincere. I have, however, bought drinks and a meal for some servicemen while waiting for a connecting flight in Salt Lake. They were so young, they could have been my sons.
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 4, 2023 10:25:47 GMT -8
This is not something I recall hearing, but I don't get out that much. My favorite phrase when someone is taking leave is, "Be good. If you can't be good, don't get caught."
I know it is polite for people to ask, "How are you?" when greeting each other. But I find it a bit overdone, unless it is asked by a friend or family member who has not spoken with you for some time. Perhaps a regular customer as well. The guy on the telephone at Spectrum technical assistance really doesn't care how I am doing, nor do I care how he is doing. To such inquiries I generally reply, "Still alive."
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 4, 2023 10:37:08 GMT -8
I still find myself doing this. This and a slight wave of the hand was very common in small towns when I was growing up. I recall driving through such towns and people walking on the street acknowledging my existence by giving a small wave to me. I, of course, nodded or waved back and kept driving, never to see the people again.
I am convince my Southern upbringing helped me a lot in Asia. We are more formal, taught to be polite, open doors for others and respect age more than seems to be the case in the North or on the West Coast.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 4, 2023 10:43:23 GMT -8
I doubt that it's a matter of not getting out. It's likely a matter of living in Texas, not Libtardville. Pat says that whenever he gets this superficial nostrum from some nitwit he returns it with "No, stay free."
I see two elements: social lubrication (good) vs. marketing expropriating normal social functioning. It's not at all bad to say, "How are you?" to someone. But if you get that over the phone via a telemarketer (or politician), good god, it's astonishing that people can't make this distinction and instead fall for the sometimes very clever and well-researched marketing. No, sorry, they don't care about you.
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 4, 2023 11:55:05 GMT -8
This is the way to break and destroy a criminal state-within-a-state. The president is indeed very brave. Take a look at who he is dealing with. Their bodies already indict them as criminals. MS-13
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 4, 2023 17:16:02 GMT -8
That's the kind of cancel culture I can get behind. Now...let's start building some prisons for the COVID bullies.
And this comment shows that a lot of people have been thinking what I've (we've) been saying:
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 4, 2023 17:47:30 GMT -8
It's not for me to tell Citizen Artler, who has suffered for this country in his service, how to respond to well-wishers. As I've stated before, it's a yuge step up from being spat upon or being called a baby-killer.
In the NW, you can't swing a dead octopus without hitting a service member, usually Navy. I've sat at the table with a 4-star admiral and had many dealings with the lowly Seaman. It's in our regional culture and it would be difficult to pretend even for a moment that our safety and security wasn't dependent upon what they do.
"Thank you for your service" is generally real and sincere when it's said (and I've said it many times). That said, if I rankle at it – and I do – it is because our world is being lost and surrendered daily because of anodyne "niceness." People have learned instinctively to say (if not also think) "Isn't that nice" to almost any nonsense or perversion.
I'm sure Artler remembers that funny bit in the Amazon Prime movie, Vengeance. The libtard from New York figures out (or is outright told) that when the mother of the rural Texas family he is living with gives an all-smiles "God bless you," it actually means "Go fuck yourself."
That's what I often think about "Have a nice day" or "Thank you for your service." And it's not that the people who say this have an opposite meaning in mind. But it think it's that there is the same sort of disconnect.
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Post by artraveler on Mar 4, 2023 17:52:16 GMT -8
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Post by artraveler on Mar 4, 2023 18:15:30 GMT -8
mother of the rural Texas family In the south the correct phrase is, "bless his heart". I've used it when yankees butt in line at a crowded restaurant or movie theater. But it is best used by older women when some jerk is being a super jerk himself. Today my best girl and I met with some friends for lunch at the AQ Chicken house. AQ has been a Northwest Arkansas popular restaurant for 75 years and they just announced they are closing on 18 March. www.bing.com/search?q=aq+chicken+hoiuse&form=APMCS1&PC=APMCAQ was here when I first moved to Arkansas in 1960. At that time the population of Springdale was about 5,000 and Fayetteville about 12,000. Much has changed over the last 60 years but AQ remained, remarkably the same. I suppose that is part of the reason for closing. As we were waiting in line a woman came out after having lunch walked down the line, saw me wearing marine colors and gave me a gift card worth $18.00. She said, "I won't be back again to use this so thank you for being there when other weren't.
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 4, 2023 21:17:31 GMT -8
That's how I have heard it. It is, among other things, a term of derision. I did not see the movie, but I believe this is something the women in "Steel Magnolias" would have said.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 4, 2023 21:28:09 GMT -8
She must have said "Bless your heart" then. I forget. But it was funny.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 23, 2023 7:33:05 GMT -8
I was reading about a retro computer oriented site that recently (apparently) shut down. I found a couple comments to the article that announced this to be interesting. The owner's reasons for shutting down seem to be a combination of "Bwahh, whaaa...no one is reading me" and "I got a nasty letter." My first thought was "Man up." But here's the first comment: Besides "Man up," I would have told this website author that if you are doing something that interests you, who cares if one or a thousand is reading? Or are you really in this for your ego?" Yes, we all like rewards and positive feedback for jobs well done. But we here at Reviews-and-Things are not babes in the woods. We know that you don't go to a brothel to find love no more than you go to the internet to find much more than superficial "Likes" from people you don't know and will likely never meet and who you would barely tolerate even in the best of circumstances. That doesn't mean these are bad or superficial people. But the nature of the internet is indeed superficial. So those who start a web site should not go looking for love in all the wrong places. That said, I've (we've) sort of "Been there, done that." I got tired of the superficiality of StubbornThings. What never bothered me is if one or a million people were reading us. The only thing that mattered is, "Did he or she write something true, interesting, and worthy of reading?" Most people were writing drivel. I'm with this next commenter who could be summed up as "So what if you're not a famous 'influencer' with a million vacuous sycophants drooling over every stupid thought you utter? Fight the good fight because it's the right thing to do."
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 23, 2023 11:36:08 GMT -8
I have long thought that, generally speaking, unless one's aim is to simply make money with a blog, a huge number of followers is a sure sign that one's blog is not very thoughtful. That said, I would love to be able to make lots of money by putting out a blog or using social media. But, I am not a whore who got her start by broadcasting a sex tape. There are certain boundaries which I will not cross. In any case, I am too old and ugly to make money by making a sex video.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 23, 2023 13:05:47 GMT -8
As disdainful as I am of "intellectuals," and mindful not to be a look-down-my-nose one of those, there is no doubt of the fact that "success" online is inversely proportional to having something useful, decent, or good to say. There are some exceptions (Jordan Peterson) but they are few.
Face it: We are part of the underground culture. As much as libtards, various flower-children holdovers, yuppies, guppies, puppies, and stupidies think they are "daring" and "with it" and "doing their own thing" (in exactly the same way as everyone else, of course) and part of a vibrant and important "counter culture," they are little but (ironically) the very parents that they supposedly all warned us about in the 60's: dull, uninspired, robotic, chasing a materialistic life, and slaves to convention, etc.
Truth? Beauty? Goodness? Or just thinking outside the box? There is little market for that these days in a culture that has truly become crass and vulgar. I wear it as a badge of honor that we don't have a million participants. If we did, I wouldn't be here.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 23, 2023 14:10:15 GMT -8
This has been the case in America for a long time. Perhaps it is the same around the world, but other places in the world, which I have visited, don't loudly advertise what special, different, unique individualists the inhabitants are. My observation regarding this strain in American culture is below. I already figured this out as a teenager. Never have so many tried so hard to be so different by being the same. I sometimes think a bunch of ninnies read the Cliff Notes of Thoreau's Walden and took away little of worth from those. I must admit that I found Walden to be of slight value and somewhat phony.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 23, 2023 17:37:42 GMT -8
I have my faults. It would make quite a list. But I do think something happened to those born between about 1948 and 1956. They are corrupted, self-centered, and emotionally vapid. I saw two examples of that in the last two days from men of about the same age (70 or so).
One of them is my older brother. Aha! He finally got up with fleas after having lain down with that alcoholic dog who is (and perhaps now was) the keyboard player in his band.
Long story short, this "Jimmy Fingers" (real name or stage name, I don't know) got drunk one night and wrote my brother a chain of highly volatile text messages. Every fourth or fifth word was an f-bomb along with observations about how he was a narcissist, treated his wife badly, and a few other things. This guy is a little drunken bitch but...well...even in the midst of a tirade some truths can be told.
So now he is out of the band although he apologized profusely the next day. (My brother read the entire text message chain to us today.) The subtext of this is: One, Alcoholics are problematic in terms of having any kind of relationship with them; Two, my brother can be a real asshole and he doesn't notice it.
The other episode was a client of mine who was crying and complaining about all the work he had to do on his boat he has at the yacht club. I mean, this generation is a bunch of self-centered ninnies. I'm tired of them.
I did not mention to my idiot brother that six months ago I warned him about lying down with dogs. He then, of course, went on to relate a story about this "Jimmy Fingers" that I had heard already twice before, and I told him so before he bored us a third time.
He is (if you will pardon the French) one fucked up individual. I urged him to go talk to a counselor just to get a perspective on things. His life plan is to outlive his wife. I reminded him that actuary tables were not in his favor so he'd better come up with a better plan than living in misery and playing a waiting game.
He's a flake. I mean, he is a full-out flake. And there is no helping him because he listens to no one else. Lesson to be learned: There is more to life than trying to live the sixties lifestyle of non-stop self-satisfaction. Never has the adage "A little suffering is good for the soul" made more sense than when you look at the Boomer generation. This is where Snowflakes were born.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 23, 2023 20:11:16 GMT -8
I would widen the range. In fact, I think I would push the starting number to about 1940, perhaps a year or two earlier, and the ending number to ........I am not sure when.
One must remember that the so-called "sixties" generation was led by, and to a large part consisted of, people born before the baby-boom. Assholes like Abby Hoffman were born in the 1930s, as were Jerry Rubin and Tom Hayden. Need I mention Jane Fonda?
Most of the musicians who did a great deal to ruin Western culture were also born before the end of WWII such as all of the Beatles, all of the Rolling Stones, Peter Paul and Mary, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez, Jimmy Hendrix and many others.
My personal opinion is that much of the rot of this time originated from a combination of never-before-seen prosperity and Marxist agitation. The agitation was instigated to take advantage of the resentment of those who did not much partake of the prosperity and the sense of guilt of the children of those who did.
Of course, given man, history has a naturally corrupt species to work with. Left to its own devices mankind generally finds ways to screw things up. But I think the Marxist agitation has been pretty successful in accelerating the decline.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 24, 2023 7:22:04 GMT -8
I won't argue the point. Of course, you are right.
Maybe things are different in Texas. But around these parts, if you are over 65, you are dedicated to "recapturing your youth." Oh...and speaking of alcoholics, I love how "wine tasting tours" have become a way to sanitize it. I shall not mention the people this pertains to since I do not have FU money. But I would not be surprised if this is yet another widespread and unreported aspect of the corruption of the 60's generation.
One thing to remember (as I'm sure you all do) is the thorough PR job done by Leftists and liberals to undermine existing authority and morals. "Don't trust anyone over 30" was just the tip of the iceberg. The entire project was basically to romanticize the Yute Generation and delegitimize the Adult Generations. The former were cool, hip, "nice," forward-looking, and "open" while the latter were "squares," unhip, and repressed.
Music was a yuge part of forwarding this message. Why else would songs such as "Sympathy for the Devil" be written? Rock 'n' Roll is thoroughly about the Yute Trinity: sex, drugs, and counter-culture.
Well, let's look and see what it has gotten us. Even my younger brother notices the "ghost" effect that he sees in many people these days. Like I said, maybe things are different in Texas. But there is a "Nothingness" spreading and you see it in people's eyes and behavior.
I don't disagree, although I would frame it as the attempt (largely successful) to promote the supremacy of the child aspect over the adult aspect. The true goal was to remain forever-children, to be taken care of and to be free from the harsh realities of living. Everything would be free and easy. Thus those harsh realities that get in the way of these naive Utopian notions are blamed on someone else. This is what "systemic racism" means. It means the fault is someone else's, some almost invisible "thing" that no one can find but it has to be there to explain things.
We are arguably no longer able to govern yourselves. We are set to be ruled.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them. One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 24, 2023 7:52:02 GMT -8
I do not get out much, so I could be missing something. But I do not see any trend in my area to "recapture one's youth." Texans have long been pretty down-to-earth types, with the occasional eccentric thrown in. As such, they don't pretend that one is eighteen when one is sixty-five. What one sometimes encounters is what I have seen across the world, i.e. older women trying to keep young, or at least to look younger than they are. I have nothing against that as long as it doesn't get out of hand.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 24, 2023 9:19:18 GMT -8
As such, they don't pretend that one is eighteen when one is sixty-five. We must lend an ear to the media and advertising which continually lays on the drugs to make you look and feel younger. It is nothing new, advertising of this type has been going on since the early radio days. Vitamins, supplemental drugs of all types and cosmetics consume hours of TV time. No sane person wants to die but supporting these aggressive ads has become the single reason. It is an audience that can be manipulated or is susceptible to manipulation.
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