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Post by Brad Nelson on May 24, 2020 11:54:11 GMT -8
I found a two-volume series in my father’s old book collection titled The Great Battles of All Nations: From Marathon to Santiago by Archibald Wilberforce. The title page notes that these volumes are “Profusely Illustrated.” Indeed, there could be some value to these books because of the engravings printing in them. Here’s an example of one of those engravings. I photographed it with my new iPhone SE 2020 (pretty good camera, by the way) with ad hoc lighting and without flattening the book unduly: SpanishArmadaCamIt would appear that the first volume was published in 1898. The actual copyright listed in this is 1899. I have no idea if this is a first edition but I see no evidence that it is not. These may be of no great monetary value ( Abe Books lists volume two for about $22.00). But they may be of high literary value. I was thinking this is something Mr. Kung would be interested in. And it is available in our mail-order library for extended loan.
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Post by timothylane on May 24, 2020 12:28:48 GMT -8
The most famous listing of decisive battles may be Edward Creasy's study of 15 battles, from Marathon to Waterloo, which came out in 1851. The wikipedia listing on the book (which I believe I read) mentions later compendia, including some which considered themselves supplements to Creasy's. One of those came out in 1898 and adds Gettysburg, Sedan, Santiago, and Manila Bay to it, which may be the one you have. But it doesn't mention Archibald Wilberforce. Of course, he might have been the one who got another writer to make those additions and got himself listed as editor or publisher.
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Post by kungfuzu on May 24, 2020 16:59:50 GMT -8
I have not read these histories, but they sound like they would be interesting. I have Fuller's two volume study of the most decisive battles in Western History and must say I enjoyed reading these books many years ago.
Please advise how to apply for the extended loan.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 24, 2020 17:27:13 GMT -8
I will need your credit card number, two forms of ID, your mother's maiden name, your shoe size, title to the house, and proof that you are Wuhan-Flu-negative. Other than that, it's a piece of cake. Or I can just send these to you. They'd probably be coming by UPS. I'm going to first take a few moments to look at the engraved pictures and photograph and share a couple here. They really look like quality works. And my guess is that anyone who put that kind of time and expense in the engraving probably etched some pretty good historical prose as well. But these books have your name written all over them. I knew it as soon as I looked at them. The loan period is six months after which you will be charged a late fee of $.20 per day. P.S.: And let me know if those "Patterns for Living" books interest you. I mentioned them on another thread. You could just have them. HistoryCam
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 11:54:24 GMT -8
Here’s another book that Mr. Flu or someone else might be interested in. Let me know: American Political and Social History by Harold Underwood Faulkner. I'm going to give Mr. Flu right of first refusal on this because it looks like something he might be interested in. I have the fifth edition. It has a copyright on it of 1948. You can actually thumb through a version (including the entire Table of Contents, which is seven pages long) here. It even seem to be offered for download although I can’t get the epub version to work.
Here’s the first page of the Table of Contents:
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The book itself is almost certainly free of modern political correctness, which means it might be a good source of honest information. At random, here’s a small excerpt from: Colonial Life: The People
From Chapter X: Jeffersonian Republicanism:
The book doesn’t sound half bad. And I had no idea that Jefferson invented the swivel chair. I’m sitting in one now.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 12:05:14 GMT -8
I also have available at the Reviews&Things lending library (although this selection would be for permanent loan) what appears to be a high school or college book (this one has “West High School” stamped on the inside front cover and was definitely a library edition). It looks just like this one at Amazon. I has a short stories section, a nonfiction section, a poetry section, a drama section, an epic tale section, and lastly the novel section which consists of Charles Dickens’ Great Expectations.
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Post by kungfuzu on May 25, 2020 12:07:15 GMT -8
Booked!
It is interesting that your father had a library of good books just like my parents did. I believe this has something to do with that generation born before WWII being grounded in the past and understanding past is prologue. They also understood learning was a non-stop process.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 12:22:48 GMT -8
Done and done. By the end of the week, I might be able to get both volumes of The Great Battles of all Nations and American Political and Social History into UPS.
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Post by timothylane on May 25, 2020 12:34:27 GMT -8
My parents had some interesting books, including a couple of medical reference works and my father's set of Lee's Lieutenants, which I pretty much read by browsing different sections while we were in Greece. He had a lot of science fiction, some of it obscure (when we saw the movie Zotz!, he commented on the differences in the endings of novel and movie), and was a big mystery fan as well. We also had that Great Books series that was so popular in that era.
I kept some of my textbooks from high school and college, including my 11th grade and 12th grade English texts.
Jefferson also invented a wheel cipher that I understand is still in use. He was a bibliomaniac as well, which is one reason he was always having money problems. (I can definitely understand and sympathize with that.) On the other hand, this proved useful when the British burned Washington in 1814, including the Library of Congress. He supplied his own books to restock it.
On the other hand, he was a francophile, even after the Terror began.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 13:27:52 GMT -8
One wonders what he would have thought of electronic books. I suspect he'd have a Kindle or two.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 16:05:04 GMT -8
I also found a downloadable version of Great Battles of All Nations here. Again, there are numerous OCR errors. But it's certainly readable.
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Post by timothylane on May 25, 2020 16:34:25 GMT -8
I notice that the book takes it up to the surrender of Cronje in South Africa (at Paardeberg). Is that in fact included? It was certainly an interesting fight, but it hardly meets any standard of decisiveness in that by the time Cronje was run to ground by Roberts and Kitchener, it was only a matter of time despite the intervention of Christiaan De Wet. It was lethal to a lot of British troops who got some enteric disease (dysentery, typhoid, whatever) from polluted water.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2020 16:44:04 GMT -8
You can scroll through a pdf of the book here. I don't know much about what's included in the book at this point.
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Post by timothylane on May 25, 2020 18:02:01 GMT -8
I searched for Paardeberg, and it did have a readable page giving a brief summary of events from the aftermath of Magersfontein (where the Black Watch got sunburned on the backs of their knees) to Cronje's surrender. This obviously wasn't a battle description
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 26, 2020 9:47:55 GMT -8
I’m going to post a few engraving from this book. Here’s another. MarathonCam
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 26, 2020 10:03:30 GMT -8
Still playing with my new iPhone SE 2020 ($350.00 at Consumer Cellular). More about that later. But if you’re looking to upgrade (whether iPhone or Android), I can recommend it at this point. The first photo of the Marathon engraving was taken by my iPhone’s stock Camera app (made by Apple). This second one was taken by a paid-for third-party camera app called “ProCamera.” It has an exposure lock option. And I have a grey-card target (which is grey on one side and white on the other) which can be used to set white balance. Basically you aim the camera at the grey-card, let it determine the exposure (especially the “white balance”), and then lock it. Move back to your subject (this book) and take a photo. MarathonBalancedCamYou can see that the background of the image is not so yellow. But neither is it white, nor should it be. When Mr. 1984 Flu gets these books in the mail he will see that this second image is a better representation of what is in the book. The little speckly splotches at the top are merely a reflection of my one-light-source quicky studio glaring off the paper. Thank you for this diversion into photography. I’m still gauging the feasibility of replacing a bulky DSLR (or even a compact camera) with a phone camera. The results of my research and experiments have been highly positive so far. Like I said, I’ll probably write more about this elsewhere when I get a chance and give a condensation of my findings.
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Post by timothylane on May 26, 2020 10:27:56 GMT -8
I don't think Marathon looks quite like that today. I seem to recall that we once had a picnic in that area, and also that we went camping there a few times when I was a Boy Scout in Greece. It was on the first such trip that I got lost returning from going downstream to look at a nearby dam. (The path down to from our camp site at a key point was parallel to the stream as I came back, so I didn't notice and continued upstream until I finally decided I had to have passed it and turned back. Observation has never been one of my talents.)
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 26, 2020 10:34:47 GMT -8
I think it’s a fair guess that these are meant to be works of art rather than accurate portrayals. Here’s another: ThermopylæCam
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 26, 2020 10:39:42 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 26, 2020 10:48:41 GMT -8
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