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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 14, 2021 6:54:21 GMT -8
Aided by the RINOs who have gone along with the scam as long as they could get their cut and insure cheap labor for their masters.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 14, 2021 7:58:34 GMT -8
Regarding my earlier comments about the coming military cleansing, note the following article which gives some details of the new Navy aims as to "the intersectionality of race, gender, blah, blah, blah." I thought military personnel were required to swear "to uphold and protect the constitution of the United States." Foolish me. The left is making the military an affirmative-action force, which will eventually be used to control Americans, while degrading its ability to perform its true purpose i.e. defend the USA. The new Red Army/Navy
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Post by artraveler on Feb 14, 2021 10:45:31 GMT -8
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 14, 2021 21:55:46 GMT -8
An important story which shows how the New York Times and others lied about the death of the policeman who died during the "invasion" of the Capitol Building. The claim that he died from being struck with a fire extinguisher by a Trump supporter was complete fiction. This and other stories which came out during the hysteria immediately after the incident are being shown as propaganda. New York Times-We Lied. What else did you expect?
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 15, 2021 12:06:30 GMT -8
This is the best analysis of the farce, called "The 2nd Impeachment of Donald Trump," which the country has just experienced. That it is made by a Brit says something about the problems we are facing in America. What was the impeachment really about
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Post by artraveler on Feb 16, 2021 8:00:02 GMT -8
amgreatness.com/2021/02/15/the-vast-bipartisan-pretense-of-trumps-demise/The first signs of the disintegration of the Democratic fairyland came this week with the self-destruction of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, the likely recall election of California Governor Gavin Newsom, the shambles of the Lincoln Project, the ludicrous departure of Biden press aide T.J. Ducklo, as the financial derring-do of Hunter Biden continues to be a matter of high interest.
Conrad Black on recent events and Donald J Trump.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 16, 2021 8:39:05 GMT -8
I don’t blame the root of this on Trump. I simply say he accelerated and exacerbated the situation with his ham-fisted, man-child petulance and stupidity — as well as forwarding some of the same policies as the Communists.
However, this guy had some good policies on energy and probably on foreign affairs as well. But his communications skills sucked. He was played and used badly by the Democrats and seemed impotent in response. His grasp of politics seemed nil. He, as you noted, seemed to have only the power of his personality as guide. There was no reform platform to be laid, and thus remembered, because it was all about him. There was no way for people to conceive of the issues we faced in a principled and objective way because it was always parsed in terms of Trump’s narrow definition of “winners and losers” that always ended in the glorification of himself. He was a train-wreck of a president if your purpose is to give people an alternative to the Left. There was no substance to hang anything on beyond his wrapping his carnival show in red-white-and-blue nationalism. I clicked on the local news for about 30 seconds yesterday and it’s a window into a completely bizarro world. They were obsessing over the fact that not enough blacks and “people of color” were getting the vaccine. This race obsession masquerading as compassion is lunacy. I don’t know if you guys know what this is like. These are Seattle news stations. It’s beyond my powers to describe it. But it is the disintegration of objective reporting replaced by the complete Kompassionate-Karenization of reporting. This is truly a window into the horrible Communist soul masquerading as good-guys. Gals. Whatever.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2021 12:08:49 GMT -8
An excellent piece by Black. I suggest anyone who stops by R&T read the article.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2021 12:31:01 GMT -8
I was talking about this yesterday with a friend in Switzerland. Trump had some good policies, but he never articulated them in an organized way. There was no policy platform to which everyone could turn and see what Trump's goals were and what was being done to achieve them. Trump mentioned his goals now and then, but again, in a scattershot sort of manner. He was better at mentioning what he had done, but didn't give nearly enough time in explaining why he did things and how they were good for the country. He sort of listed them and expected people to get it. Speaking in a sort of shorthand was one of his problems.
Another of his problems, as Conrad Black mentioned, was his almost obsessive trait of shooting himself in the foot. It was as if he was so worried about what others thought of him that he had to blurt out ridiculous claims and make silly statements every now and then. These and his sometimes needless attacks on others hurt him. The president of the USA doesn't need to condescend to making comments on "personalities" in the media, etc. If he is going to belittle such scum, it should be done with humor and a smile or with sorrow as if one is talking to a prodigal son who needs guidance to get his life back on track.
His worrying what people thought about him, led to, in my opinion, his biggest failing. He was not ruthless enough. By the end of 2017, latest, it should have been clear to him that he was surrounded by vipers. Yet, he did little to clean the nest. Top levels of the Justice Dept., FBI, CIA and Defense Dept. should have been fired, retired, reassigned, ignored. Unfortunately they weren't.
Why this and many other things weren't done, I cannot say. All I can say is that there was a tremendous opportunity wasted.
That said, I would take Trump, with all his flaws, mistakes, rudeness and faults, over what we have now as well as what Cocaine Mitch and his cohorts seem to have in mind.
Some Asian cultures are known for often admiring form over content. Too many in America have taken on this trait. It is not healthy. Trump's form may be anything but pretty, but I will take his content over everything I have seen on offer from the Demoncrats and RINOs.
P.S. His foreign policy was so much better than that which came before and what appears to be coming back at us, that I would vote for him on this basis alone. Yet, he also got three Supreme Court Justices through and almost 500 miles of border wall. We will be begging for a return of his immigration policy very soon.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 16, 2021 13:44:33 GMT -8
Agreed. Too much personality. Not enough platform. His [expletive deleted] daughter and son-in-law were probably the worst political advisors in history. Not that Trump probably is amenable to advice. I don’t know.
“Lock her up” or “We’ll build a wall and get the Mexicans to pay for it” is the political rhetoric of a demagogue, not a platform.
I’m not Jeb Bush, Jonah Goldberg, Paul Ryan, or Mitt Romney. It would actually be okay with me if Trump had called Nancy Pelosi a “cunt” and then backed it up with well-reasoned arguments for how and why her kind is destroying the country.
I’m not a Decorum Conservative. I don’t think the gravest sin of a conservative is to upset the Communists. Jesus H. Christ. That I even have to say this. But this is how the assholes such as Romney operate.
However, along with the dash and flash a person needs a solid ideological underpinning and the ability to communicate it. With Trump, I think we saw the right (even the principled right) fall into the same sort of mass-mind thoughtlessness as with the Left. Party Uber Alles. Or Man Uber Alles.
We saw the right go mad for the politics of fashion and fad. This may sound weird, but I have intimate experience with Trump-like characters whose mouth is often their own worst enemy. Both my older brother and I would often look at each other and say, “Yeah, this guy’s a lot like dad.”
Having an exalted and impulsive ego is not following in the footsteps of Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, etc. He needed to up his game and he just never could do it. And now we have Biden.
Absolutely. As one somewhat dubious source said (and it was probably one of the liberal articles on Apple News), “People didn’t like a president saying things that would have gotten them fired.” I can see that point of view, at least for some.
I couldn’t agree more. Although he read some grand prepared speeches from time to time, I never got the feeling that they were what he really believed. As one unfriendly source said, Trump made his career from marketing his name….basically putting “Trump” in large letters on a building, showering a refurb with some money, and then moving on. And if things went wrong, he’d throw lawyers at the problem. We saw that “throw lawyers at the problem” at the end. And it was a hash.
To me, he was and always will be a con man who just happened to make some good moves for reasons I can’t imagine. No, he didn’t hate his country the way Obama does. That probably accounts for a lot of the positives. But it makes my head hurt trying to understand this guy.
Still, I’d vote him back into office in a heartbeat if the choice was between him and Romney, or someone of that ilk.
I think this old horse is getting too old for another run. But if keeps himself in good shape, who knows? But the presidency takes a lot out of a person. If he made another run, he really needs a solid team to advise him. Kung, Artler, Nelson, and Associates could make a lot of money doing so. And, really, we’re just the kind of people he needs to listen to.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2021 14:07:16 GMT -8
As I have said before, I don't know that Trump was a natural conservative. I would bet he wasn't. But the left, by its constant attacks, pushed him right. I now think he has become much more conservative than before.
In fact, Trump had much in common with the Demoncrats and Globalists, but he clearly could not be convinced to drop his "America First" program. Bringing back manufacturing jobs to America, standing up to the CCP, requiring NATO partners to pay more for their defense; these were things which the Demoncrats, Globalists i.e. the uniparty could not concede. This is why they hate Trump so much. He is literally an existential threat to them. That he was crude was just an add on which they could despise.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 16, 2021 15:10:49 GMT -8
Still, I’d vote him back into office in a heartbeat if the choice was between him and Romney, or someone of that ilk. And that is why his support is still so high among his followers. He has feet of clay but there is no doubt that they are American feet. Everything else is commentary. I do believe he will be the kingmaker for 24 and right now there are two who impress me as having common sense, Kristi Noem and Ron DeSantis. Both as governors rejected the models cast before them from the CDC and took political risk to keep their states operating and reopened ASAP. If either of these two gets the blessing from Mar Lago, or perhaps both. How about Kristi Noem as president and DeSantis as VP? The recent attack on both of these people by media mean that they have done the same analysis and come to the same conclusion. Most of all the turtle has to go. I think the most important lesson Trump has taught some in the GOPee is that you don't have to win everything but if you don't fight for it you never win. Trump will be a valuable asset in finding candidates who want to win, do what they are sent to DC to do-------and go home. We have a chance, perhaps the last time, to stop the onrush of the American Communist to tyranny. There will be violence, do not kid yourself the leftists, unlike RINOs, will not surrender willingly just to have a seat at the table.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2021 15:31:57 GMT -8
I am not so sure about Kristi Noem. I have followed her a bit since I first heard her in one of those phone-conferences Trump had with state governors at the beginning of the KFF fraud. She was pushy and somewhat overbearing. It appears to me that she is supremely ambitious.
There is also this which can be found on Wikipedia.
In February 2019, she said that the Trump administration's trade wars with China and the European Union had devastated South Dakota's economy, particularly the agricultural sector, "by far" the state's largest industries.
So would she be just another shill for the export sector?
At the moment, I am more inclined to support DeSantis. He has been the executive of a much larger state so should be better able to run a large bureaucracy. Furthermore, I don't see much upside of having a presidential candidate from S. Dakota. There are two Senate seats and on House seat. All are likely to be won by the Republicans. In Florida, the presidential vote might help swing a number of blue congressional seats to red. Having a local boy run for the presidency would also help Florida stay red.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2021 15:58:41 GMT -8
I meant to post something on the possibilities which Trump might take over the next months and years. Having waited, the number of these possibilities has lessened as Trump has come out and declared war on Cocaine Mitch. (This was one of my options, now it is policy.) He picked up the gauntlet Frankly, I don't blame Trump at all. It is my belief that this option, to come back strong into the fray and fight the traitorous Tory Loyalists (RINOs) before attacking the Red Coats, (Demoncrats) was the most likely and best overall option. Whatever Trump decided, there was going to be some risk and much blood (metaphoric) shed. That being the case, his best option is to quickly attack, purge the horses and clean out the filth in the Republican stables to get the structure in clean order before moving forward. Cocaine Mitch, with his insane and destructive speech in the Senate gave Trump little choice. He has forced Trump into war. This war will damage the Republicans much more than the Demoncrats, at least in the near future. Given that Cocaine Mitch was just re-elected, I am not sure how much damage can be done to him. I personally would hope him to be completely ruined politically and economically. The way he has damaged the Republic with his handling of the senate trial has earned him the scorn of all Constitution-loving Americans. One thing that Trump and his people need to keep in mind. If they are successful in ridding the party of the parasites and Globalists, oh I repeat myself, these parasites might change party affiliation in the last few months of their tenure and vote with the Demoncrats, out of spite. If anyone needs proof of spite playing a big role in our national politics, one need only cast a glace toward the scoundrel Romney.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 16, 2021 19:38:31 GMT -8
If anyone needs proof of spite playing a big role in our national politics, one need only cast a glace toward the scoundrel Romney. I think you are on the right idea but I am not sure the blood will be metaphorical. It is astounding how much hatred Trump is able to generate from his enemies. I suppose it is the nature of the beast that strong emotions go with a massive ego, but how can a slug like McCain or Romney or even McConnell have that much ego? The people that have the most trouble with Trump seem to be those whose own lives, and careers are built on quicksand. Truly, being the son of a respected admiral whose life shaping event was spending years in a prison camp is not something to brag about. Romney the son of a successful gov whose claim to fame was getting the 2002 olympics out of debt and corruption. McConnell a lifetime swamp creature, the kind we used to joke about at CIA, whose eyes glowed in the dark. We can pray that the GOPee rids itself of these and many others, but I don't see it happening any too soon. It seems the only way to get rid of them is death, and another springs up out of their foreheads before death. McCain died and Romney popped up. What these people have taken is the hope of America. That as a people collectively we could be better than the rest of the world, not perfect but just better. They have proven in the last 30 years we are not better, maybe not worse, than the rest of the world.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2021 8:39:59 GMT -8
How about another run with Dennis Prager and a few hand-picked others as his advisors? Never have I read anywhere that the harsh attacks by the Democrats drove Trump to the right. But this is why we have to our own thinking here as best we can. I’m sure you’re right about that.
Given the way “woke” culture is going, I would suspect in the near term that another Trump-like personage could be in the offing in the coming years. Whatever Trump’s faults (and no one is perfect), I’ve never forgotten the key point in all this: The Decorum Republicans gave us Trump.
I tend to tokenize or collect meaningful data points here and there. I know I’ve related the time, about 10 years ago now, when I was at Thanksgiving in Edmonds at my sister’s house. We were sitting around the table eating, all in good spirits. Someone (certainly not me) brought up the subject of “the homeless,” blah blah blah. I’m sure it was one of my sister’s two daughters. Anyway, I very gently (no foam, promise) pointed out that “the homeless” were not an assemblage of obvious victims, that drug abuse, alcoholism, and other effects — not “exploitative capitalism” — could explain a lot of cases.
My sister’s youngest daughter (who, at this point, had gone to college or was ready to attend soon), starting to say something, then threw down her napkin, got out of her chair, and left the room.
This was a “data point” I won’t soon forget. This is what we are dealing with, a lot of uppity females who all think they are god’s gift to compassion. “Woke” culture, to a large extent, is this desire to separate oneself from anyone who would dare prick a pin into the inflated bubble of these people’s self-regard.
I don’t blame Trump for that. His Tweets were often gratuitously reckless. But even so, the ground was already laid with these kinds of snowflakes (men and women) who have what I would consider a fascism-of-mind. It’s their feelings and self-regard über alles.
No hyperbole meant. No denigration of these people specifically intended (at the moment). I’m just laying out the facts as I understand them.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2021 9:10:33 GMT -8
Trump über alles or “Trump can do no wrong” is certainly a political/ideological position for millions of Americans. The problem with attacking McConnell is that I wished he’d used half that energy against his Democrat and “deep state” foes.
I still see Trump as a bum and a demagogue…but better than Jeb Bush or Hillary. But instead of getting all glossy-eyed over this man’s pronouncements, he just seems more and more like a joke. Where was the fight against the rigged probes set against him? In the end, he led or inspired a physical assault against his own vice president.
This man-child will no doubt keep making large pronouncements from the sidelines about how awful Mitch is, etc. But I think his inherent scorched-earth tactics simply wears out and runs down everything around him.
Anyway, apparently Rush has passed. Someone is making an announcement on his show right now.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2021 9:29:19 GMT -8
Didn’t Mitch McConnell work fairly well forwarding the Trump agenda? I would ask that if we don’t want to be a mob that we not think like one. McConnell is not Romney.
We need institutionalists, and McConnell is at least that. He and others are rightly appalled by what happened at the Capitol and Trump’s contribution to the mayhem. I will not join the team whereby anyone who doesn’t buy into Trump 100%, all the time, is an enemy of the people.
When we tied the conservative movement to this man-child, we sowed the seeds for what we are going through right now: Apologizing for a political narcissist. If he cared so damn much for the country, he wouldn’t have lied about the election being stolen (like Prager, I’m agnostic as to whether there was enough cheating to swing the election). He wouldn’t have sicced a crowd on the Capitol and his own vice president.
If the Republican Party ties itself to any one man, they are lost. They must be tied to ideas, not personalities (although a charismatic personality in terms of leadership is a must). Is there enough unrest out there to support a truly insurgent party? That’s the problem with Trump. I think he’s de-legitimized insurgency. He’s made it now much easier for McConnell, or anyone else, to just run the status quo — which as this point is a massively Big Government.
We need a leader who won’t play with people’s emotions, as I think Trump does. I think by his gratuitously bad behavior, as well as his actual milquetoast opposition to the “deep state,” he had betrayed his supporters. Given that his supporters don’t have anywhere to go, Trump will continue to have political power and influence. But I fear with Trump we’re throwing good money after bad.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 17, 2021 18:08:05 GMT -8
From what I have actually seen happen and what I have read over the years, the answer to that question is, "Not really."
Like Paul Ryan, McConnell is a corporatist Republican. He worked well with Trump in only two areas, that I know of. 1) Placement of somewhat more conservative judges and justices on the bench. 2) Lowering taxes.
I believe the first item is a success, although not a complete success. It seems that Kavanaugh might well be something of another John Roberts. Only time will tell.
As to lowering taxes, well, I don't believe the bill which passed was that great. In any case, it helped balloon the budget deficit even before the KFF panic put that balloon on a massive tank of helium. Before he signed the bill, I wrote to Trump, strongly criticizing the bill and warning him that many Republicans would not support him on it. Much good it did me, but I still thought it necessary to voice my opinion.
Of course, it was better to have McConnell as leader than Schmucky Schumer or so other insane Demoncrat, but I hope we have higher standards than that.
That is something of a red herring. I have not seen any one on this site ask for "buying into Trump 100% of the time" or anything close to it. In fact, there have been numerous criticisms of Trump. But the insane attack which McConnell made was not only vicious, it was stupid. It called for and still calls for taking sides. Mitch made sure of that.
Before Mitch spewed his vomitus, I was going to post the following bit about the various possible options which faced Trump and the Republican Party.
The asshole Mitch has shown he is not too worried about the Republican Party winning any time soon. His pockets are lined and his power is maintained as long as he remains a leader in the Senate. He will be 84 years old at the end of his term so he could give a damn about the future of the party.
I find that statement somewhat amazing. You have known politicians and I have known some politicians and playing with people's emotions is an integral part of their job. I once made a similar criticism to a very senior politician in Singapore and he came back with the factual statement that basically said "it was a politician's job to convince people and words were the tool to do it with."
Even Ronald Reagan admitted this. You might recall his retort to those who tried to insult him for being an actor. He replied something like, "I am amazed there haven't been more actors as president as half of the job is acting."
As you know, I maintain that both literature and film are media which are based on lies to arouse emotions. Some great artists have agreed with me. Politics is just more crude than literature and film. It's like Rush said, "politics is showbiz for ugly people."
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2021 21:52:13 GMT -8
Since I don’t see anyone immediately on the horizon to take the place of Trump, I’ll opt for #3.
Amazing or not, I think Trump doesn’t deserve the accolades given to him by the faithful because I think he’s betrayed them. I don’t find the man to be genuine. I think, at heart, he’s a con man. And at the end, his personality was laid bare. He inspired a violent insurrection wherein a bunch of his rapid supporters (and others) trashed the Capitol.
And Trump can fly home to his gold-plated bathroom fixtures while broken bodies and lives are left behind. I just don’t think this man deserves the adulation he’s been getting.
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