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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 11, 2019 15:49:16 GMT -8
I'm still tinkering with the idea of buying a good pair of astronomy binoculars or a starter scope of some kind.
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Post by lynda on Jun 13, 2019 20:31:49 GMT -8
What do you want to see?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 13, 2019 20:47:17 GMT -8
What’s going on across the street behind the small gap in the curtains. Just kidding. Really. But what I want to see is the $1000 question. I realize now that without some kind of computerized mount that will automatically steer the telescope to specific coordinates (and often they have built in sites), I’m lost. I can look at the planets, Orion’s nebula, the moon, and that’s the extent of what I know about. It will be very difficult finding nifty objects in the sky on my own. So either I join an astronomy club (perhaps) or I get a telescope that steers itself to wondrous sites. But if I want to struggle on a small budget, I’ve read great things about the AWB OneSky Telescope that you can get for $199.00. It’s basic, but reviews on it are good and one can always upgrade its components. I think this might be my best option but, again, it’s finding something interesting to aim it at. And my backyard is not the best viewing area. It will work if need be. But it’s not the best.
[For the sake of my sanity, I pretend that "AWB" means "Average White Band" and not "Astronomers Without Borders." Goodness gracious, there's enough of that sort of shtick. Next there will be "Correction Facilities Without Borders." Wouldn't want to live next to that.]
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 13, 2019 21:17:18 GMT -8
Oh, and the good news is that I do have a couple great astronomy apps on my iPad. I prefer SkyView but there are at least two or three others of excellent quality, including Sky Guide. They both can guide you to various object of interest. So that’s potentially a big help and subverts the need for more expensive computerized hardware.
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Post by lynda on Jun 13, 2019 21:48:20 GMT -8
Many years ago, my Dad had a spotting scope for hunting, with which I could see the craters on the moon. I'm sure that even the $199 model you are thinking about will be much better than that.
It's fascinating to see beyond our natural ability, whether it is objects in space or microscopic things. It's like having Superhuman Power. Maybe it in response to a desire to see things, which previously, only God could see.
Your brother's place would be a wonderful viewing spot. There is a surplus of sky there.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 14, 2019 6:59:03 GMT -8
Gibbnonymous, thanks for the info on the spotting scope. I had considered that as an option as well. The astronomy binoculars I had purchased could basically be thought of as side-by-side spotting scopes. The supposedly good pair I bought were out of alignment and I had to send them back. I see just now that Amazon has credited my purchase so now I feel free to purchase something else. I like the idea of high-power binoculars because they are very portable and useful in the daylight as well. But it’s become clear to me now that anything you buy under the $400 price range (such as these Oberwerk 25x100’s) is a crapshoot. They either come out of alignment or get there soon. Apparently some (if not all) of the Oberwerk binoculars are adjustable. Others are if you peel back (basically ruin) the rubber grips and have a go yourself. Oberwerk apparently uses a better prism system that not only supposedly stays in alignment better but is easier to adjust. I’d have to confirm that by contacting the company first. I just sent them an email. But it’s clear that it’s a gamble to buy anything by Celestron or Orion. Once good brands, they are apparently morphing to Chinese junk. The price is certainly right for the Average White Band OneSky at $200.00. It’s probably the way to go although I’ll wait to hear back from Oberwerk first. And that should be soon if they’re not over-worked at Oberwerk. Having super-human powers is indeed a big part of the draw. I see all these somewhat artless “X-man” movies and it seems yutes have an overwhelming need to escape themselves. I say pick up a telescope, microscope, or whatever, and do the real thing. That’s an interesting way you’ve characterized it and there’s a lot of truth to that. The stars are fascinating enough but they’re even more fascinating when you can look deeper. Ron’s place would be good although it’s quite a drive there. But it’s an option. Or just some random field close by such as where the old West Park used to be.
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Post by lynda on Jun 14, 2019 11:59:24 GMT -8
Brad, I composed a thoughtful and witty response to your comment above, but it didnt show up here. Do you see it anywhere? I'm also having trouble with Logout, so it's probobly a technology problem on my end of the wire(less).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 14, 2019 12:06:00 GMT -8
I don’t see it. Any lengthy posts should always be composed in an outside word processor first. Short of that, copy all the text of your post before hitting the post button. In case anything goes wrong, you can just paste that into another post. For logout issues, I have no idea. My experience here is the same as everyone else: trial and error. I have no special knowledge of how this forum software works (or doesn’t work). When in doubt, try a different browser or make sure the one you have is the latest version.
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Post by lynda on Jun 14, 2019 12:12:09 GMT -8
Good advice!
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 14, 2019 12:46:42 GMT -8
Yes it is good advice. It truly surprises me how many people don't take it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 26, 2020 7:31:11 GMT -8
The sky was clear last night and I finally got a glimpse of Comet Neowise whose closest approach to Earth was July 23…so it’s still pretty close. I used the Comet Neowise app on my iPhone to find it. There is likely the same version on Android. At about 10:30 last night it was fairly low in the almost due-West (just slightly to the north) sky underneath and slightly to the left of the Big Dipper. How to See Comet NeowiseEven in a pair of binoculars (which I think are the minimum needed) it’s just a defuse flow, a bit of a blur. I’m certainly not seeing anything like this view from Utah: Maybe you’ll get a better view. Let me know what you see.
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Post by timothylane on Jul 26, 2020 7:43:39 GMT -8
I don't think I've ever seen a comet or meteor. I did once see a UFO (i.e., something moving in the sky that I didn't know what it was). A cousin and I were playing in his sandbox back in the 1960s when something drew our attention to the sky (maybe just a chance glimpse), and we saw a tiny silvery ball moving across it. I suspect it was a balloon (maybe a weather balloon), but I don't know.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 26, 2020 8:04:55 GMT -8
The only comet I can recall seeing was the Hale-Bopp comet. I was staying with a friend in Zug, Switzerland and remember sitting at an open window with a pair of binoculars gazing at the comet for some time. Somehow the perspective made it look like the comet was going backwards, the tail looked like it was in front. The thing was very distinct. For some reason, I found it almost hypnotizing to sit and watch.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 26, 2020 8:08:38 GMT -8
Let me know what you can see from your land. The first Big Deal regarding comets that I can remember was Comet Kohoutek in 1973. I do believe I saw something that looked a little more comet-like with a tail. Perhaps where I am now, there is just too much light to see that with Neowise.
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