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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2021 19:18:10 GMT -8
American Factory is a 2019 documentary about the Chinese billionaire who, in 2014 (or thereabouts), bought an old factory in Dayton, Ohio that GM had shut down in 2008. Despite the high rating at IMDB and all the “must see” superlatives in the reviews, I would recommend only that Mr. Kung view this because I think the Asian-American connection would be of interest to him. But as a documentary, it’s one of those (to my mind) cowardly documentaries that just points the camera. We don’t want a Michael Moore hatchet job. But I do think a good documentary has to tell a more coherent story and have some point of view — and not just point the camera. I think the documentary is not only cowardly in this regard, but inherently dishonest. I don’t trust the impartial look given to this of just pointing the camera and suggesting that the story tell itself. Behind the scenes, you can bet they decided what clips stayed and were cut. And that can have a dramatic effect on implicit point of view even if there is no narration, as such. So I walked away from this understanding that I was supposed to have several points understood: 1) American workers are fat, lazy, and uncouth. 2) American unions (particularly the UAW) ruined much of American industry (this is only implicitly stated, and only by filling in the dots that you already know can you come to this conclusion…as I said, while trying to give the perception of impartiality, I thought the documentary was deceitful, at best). 3) Chinese workers are harder works. 4) Automation will continue to display normal factory jobs 5) The Chinese are becoming better capitalist than we are. I disagree with none of those points. But I just thought the documentary was lazy and unfocussed. So don’t waist your time on it, although I would love for Mr. Flu to see it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 21, 2021 9:21:34 GMT -8
I couldn’t find anything but trailers on YouTube, Mr. Flu. And it’s not good enough to do a free trial of Netflix just to watch it. Like I said, this documentary was not particularly enlightening. We don’t learn: 1) Why the GM plant closed down in the first place 2) Why a Chinese billionaire would want to open a plant in the United States We never learn what’s going on inside the head of dog-faced Chairman Cho Tak Wong. Mr. Flu would likely remind us that the Asian way is much more tight-lipped than the American way. This is one reason I view the documentary as either naive or just outright dishonest. There is little to no context to this. Do we really think Chairman Cho Tak Wong walked into this situation and he is “shocked, shocked” that he can’t get former UAW workers to be as efficient as the Chinese counterparts? I suspect they were just going through the motions and had automation on their minds all the way (which eventually was part of the answer, although they still apparently employ at least a 1000 Americans and have since turned a profit). They started out with Americans in management positions (including president). But they were all eventually ousted. And we get zero idea for why they were fired. We either believe they were fired for made-up pretexts (as presented in the documentary) or there was more going on. I suspect the Chinese never intended for Americans to be in management as anything but for-show in the short term. But it’s also possible that these American managers were incompetent. We just don’t know. We’re given so little true information in this documentary despite the camera being pointed somewhere all the time. Two things are possible and I don’t know which one to believe, which is why I want Mr. Flu to watch this. Chairman Cho Tak Wong and his team, despite justifiable prejudices against the American worker (they certainly weren’t saying anything that shocked or offended me), seem to do all they can to coddle the American workers — even giving them a $2.00 raise at one point despite mounting losses. So either this nicey-nice was just for show (having some master plan already in hand) or they were genuinely trying to work with the Americans. Given the slipshod nature of this pseudo-documentary, it’s impossible to know…unless one has abundant knowledge of the Chinese, which I don’t have. It’s very clear that, at least for political/public-relations reasons, they were definitely trying hard not to be “the Ugly Chinese.” I kept thinking about the movie with Michael Keaton, Gung Ho. In that one, a Japanese car company buys an American auto plant. Keaton is in management and must mediate the clash of cultures and work attitudes. At the end of the day (in heroic fashion), both workers and management come together in a cooperative and high-spirited fashion to meet their quota. You keep waiting for this to break out among the workers. And, of course, many of the workers say they are working very hard indeed. But, again, there is basically no information or objective standards. We don’t see, for example, how many pieces of glass (this is an auto glass factory) that come down the line in the American plant vs. the Chinese plant back home in China. We just know it’s less. But on all of the production lines? Are some of the workers nearly as good? This is a documentary that tries to inform by rumor or fuzzy innuendo. For all we know, a significant number of the American workers were doing their best and were committed to the project. But we just have no way of knowing. It also looks if, regarding the Chinese management, that it wasn’t just a clash of cultures as much as it was their ineffective management. Strangely (and suspiciously), somehow the American workers were expected to meet the same standards of the Chinese plant in China despite not requiring the workers to work more than an 8-hour, five-day week. Something smelled rotten. Were they setting the Americans up for failure intentionally? It sure looks like it. But, sadly, there is no perspective on this in the documentary, no pertinent questions asked by the documentarians. The documentary was gutless fluff masquerading as a serious piece.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 21, 2021 13:52:58 GMT -8
the Chinese appear to have figured out the need for new blood in companies. This is potentially very threatening to Western companies. The Chinese are reading, have read, Robert Townsend's book, Up the Organization. It is way past time that our companies learnt read again. Many of them are stuck on Sun Tzu, Art of War and Musashi Book of 5 rings. From which they have learned little to nothing about business, war or Asia.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 21, 2021 14:30:44 GMT -8
SunTzu's main message, to my mind, was, "Be tricky."
Musashi's main message was, "Be prepared." Good summary of both books and for a warrior or a businessman simple ideas, easy to quote and easy to follow in the first stages. Implementation at more complex levels is another matter. Forty years ago business schools were teaching both as the way Asians were getting ahead of the US especially in heavy industry. Thousands of students can quote Sun Tzu but have littler to no knowledge of Henry Ford, Rockefeller, Carnegie or Stanford. They went for what they viewed as a quick fix and did not understand our own history. Stonewall Jackson never read Sun Tzu but he understood his teaching. Jackson's Sheudouh campaign in 1862 is taught in military schools around the world. As is Sherman's campaign through Georgia.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 21, 2021 16:56:31 GMT -8
It was H.D Thoreau who said, "if anything ail a man, if his bowels ache. He immediately sets out to save the world."
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 22, 2021 9:00:28 GMT -8
This makes sense and is part of the explanation for why “moral narcissism” so easily takes root. Boredom. I still think Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Princess and the Pea” explains much of this as well. The better we have it, the more people obsess on the relatively trite nothings.
As for American Factory, this documentary could be groundbreaking as simply one that doesn’t take a particularly good view of unions. It’s probably true (but, again, the documentary presents little but weak anecdotes) that the Chinese were more lax regarding safety standards than most American factories. And this seemed to be the impetus for a movement to unionize the workforce. But otherwise it was clear that these former UAW workers were Snowflakes compared to the Chinese.
The Chinese billionaire stated that if they unionized that he would simply abandon the factory. I don’t doubt he would have done that…or replaced all the workers with other workers, which I think was one of his options. But one thing this documentary did was to point out just the physical difference between the Chinese workers and the former UAW workers. The former were trim, diligent, well-dressed, and earnest. The latter were fat, tattooed, sloven, and lazy.
The Chinese noted the systemic problem of the American workers wasting so much time chatting amongst themselves. I don’t find that hard to believe although, again, the documentary presents zero evidence. For instance, we are never shown a shot contrasting a Chinese production line with one with the Americans all standing around and gabbing.
I would perhaps conclude on thing as I learn more about big business. The Leftist-based criticism is that these evil capitalists move their factories to third-world countries in order to exploit cheap labor. Maybe the “cheap labor” is a part of it. But I think the more important story is that American capitalists simply can’t make a functioning, efficient, and profitable factory with American workers. There are clearly transportation and other costs advantage with making things in the United States. And some still find a way to do this, especially with heavy automation.
But given the resistance to hard work from the typical American, and the willingness to work (and at a lower cost) in third-world countries, that’s going to make the decision easier for a lot of businesses. Why fight to reform fat, lazy, tattooed Bubba? And I don’t believe we’ve seen that documentary yet that explains all this, although this one kinda-sorta steers you in that direction.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 22, 2021 12:05:51 GMT -8
And exactly zero people are saying this, including Rush Limbaugh, although Prager had an extraordinary guest on in his last hour who was speaking some rare frankness (but not really about this subject exactly). You would have appreciated it, if only because he sounded like you. He was with some kind of foreign affairs consulting company. I could probably get that hour digitally from Pat who, I think, still subscribes to Pragertopia.
By the way, he did talk a bit about the Texas energy situation. Yes, the (10%?) in so-called “renewables” was part of the problem. But mostly he put it down to an energy transmission problem. Anyway, there's more to it, as you’ve already outlined. But he was of a thoroughly Kungian mindset. No nonsense. Called a spade a spade.
This is the point where one says, “So tell me what your really think about the American worker.”
The documentary ended with a text message on the screen about the challenge of the coming years being about how to adapt to automation. Ya think? Automation would have happened anyway. But the (insert the above quoted text as an adjective) American worker has accelerated it.
This could be a factor of a lack of guts. Speaking out means insulting your congregation. But another factor is surely that these pastors and religious leaders have been raised on this “woke” junk. This is now how they parse the world. Look to Catholics for where the Protestants are headed (and some, apparently, are already there or further).
The flabbiness of the American worker may be the greatest untold story in America. And given how moral narcissism is rampant (moral preening, virtue signaling, “wokeness,” whatever you want to call this mental and moral flabbiness), I can perhaps understand that. The populace is in no mood but to be flattered.
Remember: I shut StubbornThings down not because I got tired of the behind-the-scenes work. In a nutshell, I got tired of the moral vanity. It wasn’t about a disagreement of content, per se. It was about purging the place of the right’s equivalent of virtue signalers.
I prefer frank, interesting dialogue — even if it includes calling me a big fat idiot. What I can’t stand is basting in the vacuous me-me-me stuff that is part and parcel of the culture right now.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 22, 2021 13:14:11 GMT -8
Pat was kind enough to send me that and I emailed it to you, Mr. Flu. If Artler would like a copy, I could send him a copy as well. The fellow's name is George Freedman. Apparently he is a frequent guest on the show.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 22, 2021 20:44:58 GMT -8
Does he suppose the threat is greater or lower than you do?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 22, 2021 20:49:56 GMT -8
I heard this complaint frequently. Getting people to show up is a challenge.
In my day, the ethic was to show up a couple minutes early, stay a couple minutes late. Work hard. Ask the boss if there is anything else he would like done. Make yourself useful. Show enthusiasm.
Back in the day when even the average worker was not a complete slug, such an attitude might have made you stand out a little. Now employers would probably look at you as some kind of strange aberration and be shocked. They’d want to cut your skin to see if you bleed, to see if you weren’t a robot.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 23, 2021 8:49:15 GMT -8
As an armchair diplomat, that makes sense to me. It’s arguable we have more to fear from California than we do from Russia. I was watching an episode of Blue Bloods the other day. This one involved the murder of a Hasidic Jew. Inspector Reagan has difficulty getting information from this tight-knit group because of a long institutional memory of being rounded up by the police in Nazi Germany, Russia, etc. That is their excuse, anyway. This is TV. And this is Blue Bloods, so I don’t expect anywhere near a one-to-one correspondence with reality. But this certainly seemed realistic. And I thought that if such lingering prejudice was true, it was a highly destructive one and partially explains why many Jews have made friends with some nefarious characters while keeping a raging beef with people who have done no wrong other than to be the object of Jewish prejudice. If a police inspector is knocking on your door in order to help you because one of your own has been murdered, and you reject him just for being (I guess) white (Catholic?), then any claims to moral (or intellectual) superiority vanish. This murder turned out to be an inside job, a crime of passion. Another Hasidic Jews was fooling around with the dead fellow’s wife. On the other hand, the reason we got into this story line in the first place was because Henry Reagan (a former police commissioner) was attending the funeral of his old friend, the late Grand Rebbe. No surprise that the Grand Rebbe had shown more wisdom than the yutes. I think that’s a cross-cultural thing, for sure. So even though this is just a TV show and everything should be taken with a grain of salt, I thought it was informative to some extent.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 23, 2021 13:45:43 GMT -8
You wonder how much of that was virtue-signaling. “See. I really do love these little yellow slant-eyed fellows.” For the record, I hate what the Japanese did in WWII but have come to respect and admire their culture since then. Thanks to MacArthur and the bomb. Whatever. But they’re not lazy dirtbags, although I’ve read reports (and from you) that says the much of Japanese yute are infected with Progressive nonsense as well.
So, to sum-up…no culture whose state religion is Progressivism can be a threat to us (at least when measuring externaly...internally they're a killer). It is a religious movement that simply weakens any culture it touches until it has no defense against invaders. It's exported threat is cultural malaise, disbelief, and destruction of norms and institutions. Our best weapon against China isn’t nuclear deterrence. We should ship over a 1000 cross-dressers and let them spread the faith. Hell, China will be closing factories and farming out work to 3rd-word countries in no time.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 23, 2021 13:52:04 GMT -8
I haven’t heard that one. It makes me think of a certain something song…
Warning: Jill St. John is particularly hot. This is like one of those stupid warning you see on TV, YouTube, and what-not about flashing images that might drive some people into a coma or something. Well, similar warnings here. Lubricate your eye sockets and be sitting down.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 23, 2021 16:31:49 GMT -8
I am beginning to think that we should not only open our political consultancy group, but that it should be expanded and include our international intelligence department I'm up for that. I respect Friedman he wrote a book several years ago outlining what he considered the potential hotspots for confrontation the bulk of them are in Asia. His view of Russia is that they have the desire to be a problem, but unlike the CCP are rational. It is a strange world where we view the Russians as rational next to the CCP. Had a discussion with a friend over the weekend. We were talking about Dr. Thomas Sowell. His book the Vision of the Anointed should be required reading for every conservative/libertarian. There is a lot to cover in the book but it sums up to: The conservatives/libertarians views leftists as normal people with bad ideas. On the other hand, leftists view us as bad people with bad ideas. If you listen to their rants, speeches, and writings the attack is always on the personal level. That explains cancel culture, attacks on Trump, Limbaugh and others. With the personal attack they attempt to discredit the ideas, which they know they can not do by argument. It is the same in international affairs.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 26, 2021 21:07:14 GMT -8
Here’s how it would work: You tie the prospective (or existing) GOP candidate in a chair and arrange the hot lights and that sort of stuff. I figured you’d be good with the covert (read: slightly dodgy) stuff.
Mr. Kung and I will then berate this guy (playing the “good consultant/bad consultant” routine), sweating out as much namby-pamby as possible and inserting a backbone.
You then hand them a bill for $50.000 and we’ll split it three ways after expenses.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 9, 2021 8:53:01 GMT -8
I will lead a class called “Opening a Door for a Lady.” Let me show you one of my graduates:
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 11, 2021 12:54:36 GMT -8
I think this whole mask thing has revealed the new American character. And I’m not liking what I see. I’m astonished that most people would acquiesce to such widespread and arbitrary control over every facet of their lives.
It’s difficult to describe the operative word in all this. But part of it is contained in feminism, safetyism, racism (against whites, etc.), sexism (against men), atheism, and especially an overall orientation to feeling entitled to air and have ratified every damn thought or feeling that one has.
To my mind, the reason Jews are so hated throughout history is because they were tasked to change man back to the image-of-god and away from the animal he had become since his creation. Christianity is consistent with this.
But all forces now (despite the veneer of nicey-nice “compassion”) are pushing the reverse. The qualities of restraint, perseverance, understatement, reserve, carefulness, and reasonableness are not thought outdated and non-applicable. We’re reverting back to the animal. The idea of "manners" itself is defunct. Most people now are uncouth slobs.
One sign is how easily the herd masked up for no good reason. The stage is set for true horrors.
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