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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 21, 2021 11:46:59 GMT -8
This is the type of scientific article which, while interesting and somewhat enlightening, spreads disinformation and comes close to deifying science and scientists. They report as fact, that which is actually an educated guess. Bloody Big Black Holes This is the sentence which sticks out for its dishonesty. One comes across similar types of statements too often when reading science pieces. Had the author simply inserted the words "what they believe to be" between created and an the sentence would have been honest and correct. As it is, it is pure supposition. Dealing with objects trillions of miles distant, and occurrences which took place billions (maybe) of years in the past, it is difficult to know exactly what is happening.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 21, 2021 13:12:56 GMT -8
Dealing with objects trillions of miles distant, and occurrences which took place billions (maybe) of years in the past, it is difficult to know exactly what is happening. Remember for many people science is a god. To distrust "their" idea of science is heresy to be punished in the most hideous manner possible. All you need to be "official" is a white lab coat and a clipboard and people will kowtow to your every whim. If you want to throw a wrench into any McDonald's wear a lab coat with a name tag, take a briefcase, scale, clipboard and order a hamburger, fries and soft drink. Say nothing to anyone and I guarantee the manager/owner will be at your table within 5 minutes. Again, say nothing, take the sandwich apart, weigh the meat, bun, pickle, measure the bun and take pictures. Shake the manager/owner hand and leave. For at least the next 10 days this will be the cleanest, most efficient McDonald's in the city. Completely because you have presented the illusion of an official inspection. It is the same, unfortunately, with most public science. Truth is given a back burner when the fantasy is more important to the real goal-FUNDING.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 3, 2021 21:01:34 GMT -8
Let’s first be fair here (as Timothy, wherever the heck he is, might say): Plenty of religious people have been goofy by doing the equivalent of counting how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. They just never called it “science.”
I’ve been noticing a spate of black hole articles lately. And although black holes hold some intrinsic interest, I think it’s crystal-clear that their real attraction is religious-like. These are people in search of the validation of their own materialist/atheistic world views.
It’s interesting to note that in all the science of the last several centuries, we know next to nothing about the big questions. I read some idiot writer (at Ars Technica?) the other day who showed his or her religious devotion to their world view. They showed their indoctrination. They pointed out how “science” had displaced the old superstitions of god as the cause of this or that phenomenon, and thus the use for god at all.
It’s not too strong a word to call people who think like this “morons.” "Uninformed" would be a little kinder description. Science has certainly delved into the details of the workings of nature. And this knowledge, as applied with technology, has given us a lot of useful toys. But science can still say nothing about the nature of nature itself. It can describe it from the inside it but it can’t explain why it is in the first place or why it has the attributes that it does.
As Dennis Prager so eloquently explains, it was the Jews (and later the Christians) who separated religious thought from the superstitions of river gods, forest gods, moon gods, etc. The Jews understood God as the creator of nature, not nature itself. And that idea has in no way been overturned, nor do the atheists give any credit to the Jews being the bringers (with divine help, for sure) of the true Age of Enlightenment. This age (forgotten by most, even most religious people) replaced the low-brow material-worshiping pagan world with (quite arguably…as Dennis does) the world whereby nature could finally be probed, measured, and in some sense understood because it was a thing unto itself and not a god. This mindset (separating god from nature) arguably allowed science itself to flourish.
I see black hole worship as an outgrowth of LMA’s (liberal moronic atheists). Yes, for sure, there is a lot of clever science involved here and I wouldn’t want to diminish it. But I posit that unless God decides to communicate more directly, a thousand years of “science” will only ever show us finer and finer details of the mechanics of nature. But we’ll remain (at least via this method) as ignorant of the Big Questions as ever.
Many call this “scientism.” And it’s a good name for it. If all you believe in is the material, then the only path to so-called enlightenment is through a microscope or telescope. And this method makes people blind.
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 3, 2021 21:13:53 GMT -8
It's a little like coming upon a clock in the middle of the desert. We can see it is there. We can now determine what is is made up. But we don't know how it got there, why it is there or who made it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 4, 2021 10:36:52 GMT -8
That’s a good analogy and makes me think of the incredible supercomputer and micro-machine protein-making factories in our own cells. Astonishing. There’s no way that these things somehow increments themselves into being. And if they do, there is zero (no exaggeration) evidence for this. Every reasonable statistical study says it is impossible.
So we have that clock — about 15 trillion of them — inside our bodies right now. And we don’t have even the beginning of explanation for it. All we have is the pseudo-science of Darwinism.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 8, 2021 15:17:11 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 13, 2021 7:59:13 GMT -8
So my nephew is in town from Tennessee and it took him all of two days before he needed to call emergency services.
He bought some joints of pot at a local store. He smoked one of them and then was having trouble breathing. Sorry, I have to admit there is a Darwin award here. I asked him what he was thinking. He’s a Christian and I asked him “Wasn’t there a little voice from Jesus in your head saying this was a bad thing to do?” He said he was hoping it would help releave his many pains. His many pains, in my opinion, stem from psychological knots. His mother is a nightmare. There are likely other issues that I can’t be sure of.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 13, 2021 11:58:22 GMT -8
I bet that between you, Artler and myself we could give him a spring seminar on pain. Tell him to take two aspirin and call you in the morning.
One wonders how representative he is of his generation. Thinking does not appear to be held in high esteem by these people.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 13, 2021 13:02:40 GMT -8
Me thinks the word "detox" has very little meaning other than a buzzword for today's yutes. Best to perhaps peal the onion rather than add another layer of chemicals for anything that simple aspirin can't relieve. I just thought it was an eye-roll moment when he merited a 911 call after only two days in town. And totally self-induced.
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Post by artraveler on Apr 13, 2021 13:18:56 GMT -8
Many schools of philosophy contend that a life without pain is not a life, but just existence. Instead of aspirin take two ibuprofen do 50 pushups after running 5 mules with an 80 lb pack, repeat daily for 12 weeks. The Marines will then consider him eligible for recruitment and the residual THC will fully have left his system.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 13, 2021 15:13:04 GMT -8
I would take it further. Pain is how most people learn.
Western intellectuals across the centuries have used the so-called "Socratic method" aka dialectic, to teach. Too often, this method has little to do with reality and actual learning.
Case 1:
Student: "Teacher, what is it like to be kicked by a horse?"
Teacher: "It hurts."
Student: "I think I understand."
While that is all well I good, it is clear that the two are talking about theory, thus the lesson is not empirical, leaves room for doubt, and is quickly forgotten.
Case 2:
Student: "I wonder what is like to be kicked by a horse?"
Horse: Kicks student.
Student: "That hurt like hell! I not only understand, I know."
Which case do you believe is more instructive?
What I find scary is how many people today can't even learn through pain. They are so dumb or brainwashed that the believe it when they are told that the kick in the head they just experienced was actually a loving caress from BLM, ANTIFA or the government. The communists/progressives have always had this problem because they are masochists, sadists or both. Not properly wired.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 13, 2021 15:58:48 GMT -8
I took my mountain bike up Green Mountain yesterday. I’m still a little overweight but certainly willing. Just after I pulled into the parking spot where the trail starts, a guy pulled up behind me. He was about 35 or younger. He had a bike too. I started probably four minutes up the road before he did. About halfway up, he passed me. When I got up to the top (or not far from it) we was on the way back down. Still, if I had less weight, it would have been an even more respectable showing. But he was a reminder that we aren’t getting any younger.
So today it’s the House of Pain, but it’s a good pain. Yes, I did work a little harder knowing the young guy was behind me.
My nephew's a good kid but he tries way too hard to please people. He seems caught in the web of the female puppet-masters. I wonder if other things aren’t going on because of that. I had a conversation with him about needing to be able to get unhooked from some of that. But it is what it is. He gets a full-press conservative mini-education when we get together. But I’m pretty sure nothing sticks.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 13, 2021 16:10:37 GMT -8
One thing that continually popped up in my discussion with the yute was that the implicit backdrop to any issue was that perfect was the norm. The idea of pain, failure, and inequality being the norm is beyond most yute’s ability to comprehend. They look out at the world and if something isn’t the way they want it, they assume some nasty force is making it this way.
Although he’s not the typical leftwing clown, there still is that backdrop where racism and sexism is central to the way he parses the world. I stated flatly that there are about zero obstacles to anyone willing to work and preserver. If some welfare queen is sitting on her fat ass complaining about how life is unfair, she needs to looking into the mirror.
This basic point is not engrained in today’s yute (or their parents, for that matter). This is a grand success of the Communists. They have made perfect the enemy of good. Everywhere. In everything. They are monsters and have turned people into whiny and selfish little brats.
I’m not describing my cousin. But in his world view, this kind of stuff leaks out like second-hand smoke.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 13, 2021 16:36:42 GMT -8
The left never gives context to any of their narratives. They don't want context because, as you noted, life ain't perfect and if the sheep finally realized this fewer would fall for the Utopian lies spewed by the left.
This is why the left has all but removed history from our schools.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 14, 2021 7:15:26 GMT -8
The “sheep” label is usually thrown around as an insult more than an exact description. But the population has clearly become docile and compliant — and thus easily sheered, as is happening now. They are fed mounds of lies and all they can do is “baaa.”
In my nephew’s case, he’s generally not on board with the COVID lies. He’s not a mask-pussy. But there was one revealing part of our conversation. I was talking about the harm caused by “Nervous Karens” and such. And he would always reflexively then say, “But what about all the harm that men do?”
I told him I thought he was brainwashed in the same way the anti-Christian types are. Many a conversation I’ve had that took an honest and critical look at Islam. But the other participant would reflexively say “But what about Christians and the Crusades?” or some such thing.
I have no problem criticizing Christians or men. You all know that. And I told my nephew that, indeed, the violence that men perpetrate on society is a yuge problem. But I told him that his reflexive need to wallpaper over the problems caused by women by deflecting to men was not a matter of reason but an outcome of programming.
This is what we have. We have a lot of people who have sucked down the feminist message to the extent that they can’t criticize their masters. And that’s how I see this new state of affairs. Illogic and hysteria run amok over our culture in no small part because men have abandoned their role as reason-based thinkers and arbiters of responsible moral judgments. Period. Full stop.
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