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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 16, 2021 13:51:27 GMT -8
No Beast So Fierce by Dane Huckelbridge You can download Jim Corbett’s account for free: Man-Eaters of Kumaon. You might also check out his The Man-Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag. The subtitle of the book is a good summary: The Terrifying True Story of the Champawat Tiger, the Deadliest Man-Eater in History. But the sub-subtitle could be “Listen to Dane rank on those nasty British colonialists at every opportunity”. Basically you can skip chapter four but his critique runs throughout the book like an angry, nagging ex-wife. That’s not to say it’s not a good read. I found the subject matter fascinating and the tale generally well told. You get some overall insights into what it was like in India and Nepal at the time, as well as some background on tigers — including the man-eating in some terrifying detail. As the old Indian proverb says: Jesus, almighty, you get a real feel for how dangerous and powerful these creatures are. The overall effect after reading the book is to have no question at all about why tigers were revered or deified. They are an inexplicable power of nature that no half-baked evolutionary theories can explain. This is reality in the raw, and tigers are unvarnished reality. One reviewer complains: That’s a valid perspective although I thought the “interminable details” were some of the best parts. If it had just been a book about a killer tiger, the book would have been superficial. The author puts the events in context. You really feel for the people (whole villages and regions) that were terrorized. If anyone needed a “safe space,” it was these people. As for the harping on British colonialism, I side more with this reviewer: There’s little doubt that Dane Huckelbridge is a virtue-signaling putz. But he also has skills as a writer. As an American, we also have had some grievances with Britain. But there would be a long list of pluses as well. A very long list. This idiot author has only one axe to grind regarding Great Britain. You can tell he’s a product of the mindless anti-Western university system. The real problem is not so much that his critiques aren’t valid. It’s that they’re all one-sided. Yes, how terrible that the British induced more crops to be planted (at the expense of forests). But maybe more people were fed? Maybe fewer died from starvation or malnutrition? You’ll never know from this book. Because I’m very sensitive to this kind of idiotic one-note virtue-signaling, you might suppose I would have put this book down after fifty pages in a rage. But the overall story was compelling enough that I could set the Progressive propaganda aside readily enough. And at the same time, you can see what a programming job the universities and media have done on these kinds of assholes. But like I said, Huckelberry is a pretty good writer. He puts you in the story. He puts you in the time and place. That said, I may do what one reviewer suggested and read the book(s) by Corbett.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 17, 2021 8:45:36 GMT -8
All the books you mentioned look interesting. I will pick one and see how I like it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 17, 2021 18:52:12 GMT -8
The book by Huckleberry I got from my local library via online access.
You’ll walk away with a new appreciation for the tiger. They are the terror of the animal world, the perfect killing machine. And I would say it’s the product of an amazing design. It’s hard to see how they “evolved” that way.
There are lots of anecdotes in the book. One such points out just how stealthy a tiger is. A group of 12 women were out gathering whatever. They were in 0pen country with no trees or bushes nearby. Jim Corbett would (when he was on the hunt) go to every site where someone had been killed and learn what he could. He scratched his head how a tiger could have ever gotten near these women. There was no cover.
No one heard anything until the sound of the woman dropping her basket or something. Tigers make almost no noise going in and the same going out. It’s hard to imagine. [Of course, what you and I know is that when you get a dozen women gabbing with each other, a giraffe could have walked by and nobody would have noticed.]
The problem of a man-eater was somewhat exacerbated by the Indian rebellion/revolt/mutiny of 1857. After that, the British put severe restrictions on gun ownership. In fact, had a non-asshole writer been writing on the subject, he might have noted the danger posed to any populace when their guns are confiscated. It tends to make of them passive sheep.
But, of course, there were tons of guns that were never turned in. The problem was, they (and the ammunition) tended to be old, and often unreliable. Still, in Jim Corbett’s book about the man-eating leopard (I’m reading that now), he notes how people (whether they had guns or not) did nothing to try to stop the leopard. They all stayed indoors. In fact, more than one tale of a man-eater (whether tiger or leopard) went like this: Wife or husband was dragged out the front door or snatched just outside the door. The surviving wife/husband would invariable immediately shut the door and do nothing else to help. Amazing.
Again, too bad there wasn’t a truer and broader perspective on the British Raj. This asshole writer heckles the British for their “racist” notion of “the white man’s burden.” But, Jesus, it took a white man to do the job that no native (or few natives…he did have some help from a few brave individuals) was willing to do.
Corbett himself is an interesting case. He’s Irish so he’s not a natural fit with the British. But his parents (Catholics, I believe) had renounced their religion (for some reason or another). In a country polarized between Catholic and Protestant, apparently that kind of apostasy made one an outcast on all sides. So his parents moved to India.
Corbett by no means went native. But he was clearly a conduit between the British and the natives, respected by both. He learned the local language and could speak it fluently.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 18, 2021 7:27:22 GMT -8
Right now I’m about 55% into The Man-Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag by Jim Corbett. This is a free version converted via OCR. And there are lots of OCR errors but they are navigable. This leopard is having the luck of the devil. It’s made many impossible or improbable escapes, often relying on chance events that spoil the hunters’ stakeout of the kill sites. Once it gets dark (without a moon), there is no further point in staking out the leopard’s kills with guns. So they’ve also used a gin trap as well as poisoning the kill. But even massive doses of cyanide didn’t seem to have much effect. To quote Corbett: Many of the villagers think that Corbett and his men are daft. They’re not going to be able to kill what they deem an evil spirit with just guns. And you might understand where they are coming from. This particular beast does seem to have a supernatural quality.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 18, 2021 9:45:21 GMT -8
One of the interesting things is that the many details reported by Corbett (and others) about the man-eaters allows you to make some informed assumptions. No one can know what is going on inside the head of a tiger or leopard. But we do know, particularly with tigers, that they get pissed off. They get angry. My view is that the leopard has turned truly evil (killing goats routinely and not eating them). But the Champawat tiger is another story. A couple of its incisors were damaged by a human attack with a gun. (The man-eating leopard, in contrast, had no infirmities.) This, it is supposed, drew it to become a man-eater. The supposition is that its normal prey had become too difficult for it. But this is pure guesswork. The tiger was otherwise in remarkably good condition and went on killing (humans) for a decade or more and showing no sign of weakness. It’s certainly plausible that those damaged teeth put its normal, larger, and more dangerous prey out of reach. We can’t know. But what is apparent is that this tiger was thoroughly pissed off at humans, particularly hunters. It’s not hard to imagine an animal like this holding a grudge…perhaps against humans, in general. The clear sense you get is that these are remarkably sophisticated and intelligent animals with heightened senses that we can’t imagine. There's a lot going on inside there. The ending scene between Corbett and the tiger, if done in a movie, would seem like Hollywood schmaltz the way it plays out. I won’t spoil anything. But it’s a terrific climax. H. Rider Haggard’s King Solomon’s Mines (the first of his Allan Quatermain novels) was published in 1885. The Champawat Tiger was shot by Corbett in 1907. So the timing isn’t right. But damned if this guy doesn’t remind me a lot of Allan Quatermain, including the keen eye, second sense, and great marksmanship. There’s a photo you can find online of Corbett standing over the dead tiger. He was never a boastful fellow and regretted that the tiger had to be killed. He later went on to be a yuge factor in the preservation of the tiger as well as “hunting” tigers with a camera instead of a gun. At the end of the book, you have great respect for this Champaeat tiger and do indeed regret that it had to be put down. The leopard, on the other hand, needs to be extinguished like vermin. There is no majesty that hangs over that dastardly beast.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 18, 2021 10:02:00 GMT -8
You might find this small piece of history interesting. The Raffles Hotel in Singapore played this up a bit the first time I lived in Singapore, which was before the hotel was renovated and became another overpriced pleasure palace for tourists and businessmen on big expense accounts. Last tiger shot in Singapore
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 18, 2021 11:00:58 GMT -8
I hadn’t heard that story. Today they would (probably rightly) try to tranquilize the tiger as it appeared to be of no immediate threat.
To illustrate the capabilities of the tiger, there’s a story in the Huckleberry book about three pot-head yutes who were heckling a tiger at some zoo (I forget which zoo). The author noted that the tiger’s feats must be considered in the context of a more-or-less caged animal who hardly would be as active, agile, or strong as a wild tiger.
This tiger leaped over what was thought to be an impossible chasm and then jumped up a length that had also been considered impossible. It was presumed that the three drugged-up or inebriated yutes had been heckling the tiger. Only one of them was killed. Two escaped. I say “only” with just a measure of regret.
Apparently tigers in the wild can jump 30 foot gaps. Don’t try hiding from them because their hearing is so acute, they can likely hear your breath whistling through your nose. They have the most powerful bite of any animal alive today. And their padded feet, camouflage, and stalking techniques make the extremely effective.
Interestingly, apparently leopards lack an acute sense of smell for whatever reason.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2021 7:35:58 GMT -8
One of the amazing things is the passivity and primitivism of the Indian populace at the time. I finished Jim Corbett’s book about the man-eating leopard. The book was okay and not too long.
This was a leopard that almost always attacked after dark. There were a few exceptions. If nothing else, all you had to do to protect yourself was barricade inside your home at night, reinforcing doors and windows where needed.
Believe me, if there was a man-eating leopard about, that job would get done day-one. And despite the apparent fact that indoor plumbing or facilities were pretty much non-existent in the rural areas, I would have at least had a bottle to pee in.
But still, despite eight years of knowledge of the tactics of this leopard, villagers routinely were taken when someone stepped outside to go to the bathroom or when the leopard was able to open a week door.
That’s just for starters. I mean, if Dracula was known to be haunting my neighborhood, I’d have garlic smeared around all the windows and doors and have crosses tied up everywhere. Day one.
But the populace remained terrified by the leopard but at the same time many would not take effective action to safeguard themselves, even if the effort was minimal. No wonder that the British, with a relative handful of people, could take over the entire continent.
Besides the simple defensive actions, there was little to no offensive action. Imagine (as I’m sure has happened) a dangerous cougar — known to have recently killed three people — roaming around Texas or Arkansas. There would be independent posses springing up all over with guns a-blazin’. There would not be a general attitude of passivity. That cougar wouldn’t last a month, let alone eight years of man-eating.
This is only hinted at in the book, Jim Corbett being too polite to call a spade a spade. There was one darkly funny event. The newspapers (after several years) were putting pressure on someone to do something, They were aware that Jim Corbett was on the job but he was only one man. Several newspapers put out an appeal for people to do something. They had only two replies. One of them from some yahoo who said pretty much “If you pay all my expenses in luxury, I’ll come and give a hand.” Two replies. I think the other one was non-serious as well.
Corbett was doing it for nothing and at great personal risk. What he was doing was hard and dangerous. And he did have some loyal local companions and friends who helped. But it was definitely the white man’s burden to kill the leopard because locals clearly were not going to lift a finger.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2021 8:11:34 GMT -8
Another aspect of this is just how much walking Corbett did. It may have been fairly routine, at least for some of the natives, to walk long distances. One courier did a forced march of 30 miles to bring him a special light for his gun.
But it was fairly routine for Corbett to walk six miles in the morning to a neighboring village to gain information on a recent killing, and walk back by noon. That’s twelve miles. I walked 6.6 miles (total round trip) on Saturday. They were fairly easy miles and I’m still feeling it. I’ve got good shoes with two layers of Dr. Scholl’s gel inserts. No way could I have done six more miles (12 in all) that day.
Guys like this must have been tremendous physical specimens. He was tested when a couple messengers came to him and told him about a recent kill. Because they wanted to finish the hike before dark, they had to move fairly fast. They walked 18 miles or up and down a series hills and mountains. In the first three miles, he climbed 4000 feet. On my climb on Saturday, the elevation gain was 923 feet. And, believe me, that was quite enough.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 19, 2021 17:34:59 GMT -8
Can you imagine being a dirt-poor son of the soil, dependent on the sun, the rain and manure for your survival? If you are a Hindu, your earthly situation is all that there is. You have earned it, due to your past lives. What's the point? A fatalistic view toward life is the result.
Perhaps cliche's and generalizations, but no less true for that.
In my first or second year of college, I recall a professor of physiology or something similar giving a lecture about fitness. He said something to the effect that contemporary Westerners were in absolutely horrible physical condition compared to our ancestors. To his mind, the only people that might be comparable to our ancestors are modern long-distance runners.
One other thing which he said stuck in my mind. That was that a little fat around the middle was not necessarily a bad thing as the organs in the stomach area had no protection like those protected by our ribs or skull. Thus a little fat might serve as something of a shield.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2021 19:18:06 GMT -8
I’m sorry. I was talking about man-eating tigers and you changed the subject to CNN.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2021 19:51:07 GMT -8
All joking aside, that is the nascent thought I had in the back of my mind while reading this, although it was nowhere near as clearly articulated as you wrote.
Both the books by Huckleberry and Corbett let on that there was a great amount of superstitious belief amongst the Indian sons-of-the-soil, of whatever religion. Whether many tended to envision the man-eater (leopard or tiger) as an evil spirit in order to release them from responsibility for doing anything about it, I don’t know. But it’s a distinct possibility. But the fatalistic passivity that you described was clearly there.
That said, again, Corbett writes of many villagers who gave him aid in some way at no small risk to themselves. Simply walking alone or in a group after dusk what dangerous — extremely so if the (leopard, in this case) was known to be in the area.
If the story he relates is true, Corbett more or less fell into being the go-to guy for hunting man-eaters. He was a good shot. He spoke the local language. He was know to have a Quatermainesque sixth sense regarding animals. And he just happened to have a couple well-placed friends in relatively high places. If the accounts are accurate, he took on the job because he felt it was his duty to save people from a man-eater, especially since no one else was doing anything. He knew he had the skills to do it and his conscience forbade him from just walking away.
Again, if the descriptions are accurate, Corbett was an exceptional man. At great personal risk (and ongoing hardship), he hunted first the tiger and then later a variety of man-eating animals that emerged arguably because of a combination of illegal hunting and loss of jungle. There is little doubt, for instance, that the Champawat tiger’s behavior was modified when he had two of his incisors blown out by a hunter.
And there may have been some good reasons why nobody wanted to make the effort to hunt these man-eaters. When you read of the hardships that Corbett underwent, it was a truly Herculean task. It sounds as easy as just tying a goat to a pole and waiting. And, indeed, after many failed attempts, this is how he finally got his leopard.
But the difficulty was that these animals are extremely cagey. They tend not to return to a kill (or make a kill) until it is dark. Corbett, by his own account, said he had extraordinary night vision. Even so, without a moon, a leopard is very difficult to see. And if clouds obscure the stars, even exceptional night vision is of little use.
But that’s the easy part. The hard part is sitting in a blind of some kind on a thin layer of straw for ten nights straight just in hope of getting a shot — and making a somewhat educated guess that the leopard or tiger would actually make an appearance. And then doing that again when you’re unsuccessful, perhaps sitting in a tree because there is no other perch or there is not time to build a platform. Rinse and repeat for dozens of failed attempts. He related in no uncertain terms just how physically demanding it was. More than once they (he often had a partner with him) lost a chance because someone had to finally move their cramped leg a little. This happened once and the small noise scared the leopard off.
Or you have all the stars aligned: There’s a bit of moon in the sky, you’ve got a good shooting platform, it doesn’t rain (it’s critical, if only for your own safety, that you can hear), and you’ve picked a spot where the leopard does indeed return. You might hear it directly underneath your tree or platform wondering if it has heard you (as happened regularly). But then it starts to wander over to its recent kill that you have staked to the ground. Just then (as did happen) a woman in a nearby house makes a noise and the leopard is scared off.
Corbett faced so much bad luck like this that most mere mortals would have quit a long time ago.
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Post by artraveler on Jul 19, 2021 20:26:55 GMT -8
Indian sons-of-the-soil In spite of independence, liberalization, and the on paper, dissolving of the caste system India still suffers from many growing pains. For over 50 years they have been sending their best and brightest to American universities and although, many return to India a significant number apply for and receive American citizenship. I had numerous occasions to deal with Sikhs in northern CA. In the Redding /Red Bluff area, most of whom are Americans. They are passionate about their families and more wealthy than numbers suggest. During the Cold War India was mostly on the Soviet side. I think that began to change in the 70s as the results of the Chinese cultural revolution became known to the world. Since then, India has been moving cautiously towards de facto perhaps soon de jur alliance with the West. Perhaps the presence of a CCP army on on India's Northeast border has something to do with it. Among its other forces India is building at least two new carriers and also fields significant DDS and FFG to provide a potent striking force. I hope that the senile old guy in the WH doesn't piss them off. A conflict with America and the PRC could be decided in the Indian Ocean.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 20, 2021 7:28:29 GMT -8
I’ve read before about the Indian brain drain and the government’s attempts to counter it. For what it’s worth, Apple Computer has recently made inroads in both selling and manufacturing in India. That can’t help but keep more brains there and is probably an overall positive sign beyond just Apple. Speaking of Sikhs, they are the Rodney Dangerfield of religions. They are constantly mistaken for Musselmen. Wanting to learn more about the general period and region, I began reading With Clive in India by G. A. Henry. It’s a historical novel set in the near beginning of the East India Company’s battles with the French in dominating trade in India. The book starts well but soon devolves into, in my opinion, ill-written, boring, and confusing descriptions of battle after battle. It’s no longer a novel. It’s an encyclopedia. So I moved onto something else I found at the local online library: Hira Singh: When India Came to Fight in Flanders. It’s early days, as the British say, but 15% into it, it’s going well. This is a story that is apparently loosely based on a true incident about a Sikh calvary unit (Squadron D of regiment, Outram’s Own) who remained loyal to the British during WWI. The book is told through the eyes of Hira Singh, one of the Sikh officers in the unit. You pick it up from where war breaks out. Singh explains, in presumably the way a good Sikh would, why he and the others are fighting for the British. Here’s a small piece of that: Eventually they are captured by the Germans and then escape. And I take it that the majority of the novel is the tale of their struggles and adventures as they make their way home.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 20, 2021 9:59:21 GMT -8
I have had one or two Indians make similar observations. And in fact, it goes much deeper that sending their children to American universities. Many immigrate with young families, i.e. long before the children traipse off to college.
During my substitute-teaching days, I rated Indian students as the best. From there it went to East Asians, Whites, Blacks and Latinos.
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Post by artraveler on Jul 20, 2021 17:55:02 GMT -8
I rated Indian students as the best. From there it went to East Asians, Whites, Blacks and Latinos. My experience has been much the same although not in the class room but the few Indian Marines I have met were awesome warriors, dedicated, focused and adaptable in training and on the battle field. I actually pity any PRC units that might encounter them.
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