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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 4, 2023 7:26:10 GMT -8
That is, although we don't like the idea and likely won't admit it, we need a few of the non-sentimentalist Mr. Potters. Or a portion of the type to at least balance the recklessness of the mindless do-gooder.
With a nod to Aesop, we must remember one of the primary Kungian Rules:
Without a healthy dose of wisdom, no act of kindness will ever likely work out in the idyllic way as imagined by the do-gooder.
If I have not paraphrased that correctly, do correct me.
She certainly made a splash in her career as well:
When talking old movies, one is not fluent without some appreciation for the notable GG.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 5, 2023 18:53:37 GMT -8
My brother picked up a Viewmaster Model F at St. Vinny the other day for about $5.00. It came with a whole bunch of discs...including a rare Dark Shadows disc which apparently is worth $50.00 all by itself. Model F Model D The viewer is in excellent condition. One of the discs was from the movie, The Love Bug. A lot of the discs were Disney which the company became closely associated with in 1951 after Sawyer bought out the rival Tru-Vue company which had a license with Walt Disney Studios according to this history. Seeing it and playing with it brought back Ghosts of Christmas Past. I never had one of these but my brother had what was likely the brown Model D. But given the $9.75 price in about 1965 calculates out to $101,34, that does seem unlikely. My father worked for a toy distributing company at the time so maybe he got a deal, an open-box item, or who knows. I found actually having one of these in my hands was a wonderful blast from the past. What I didn't realize or expect was the superb image quality. They used good film and the optics were at least decent. These were not the cheap plastic junk you can still find selling for new on Amazon. Apparently there was great care in the engineering. And the Bakelite. You gotta love that.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 5, 2023 19:20:25 GMT -8
Oh, if we all had the toys we played with when we were kids, View Master is just one of those. I remember my set of Roy Rogers cap pistols, and a crystal radio, where to find a station you had to map a crystal.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 5, 2023 19:31:51 GMT -8
There seem to be a bazillion versions of the Roy Rogers cap pistols. But I know I did have a cap pistol that roughly looked like the following: It could have been a hand-me-down toy from my older brother. It's interesting the toys we had before electronics. And certainly there were a lot of clever mechanical toys with plenty of moving parts and flashing lights (batteries not included). Although I'll admit most of my toys didn't stay with me long. They either broke, I outgrew them, or I moved on the the latest thing. But some toys such as cap pistols never got old. It helped that they were extremely durable. When the world is engulfed in atomic flames, future humanity (if it survives) will find abundant stores of buried Roy Rogers cap pistols.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 5, 2023 19:50:52 GMT -8
Yes Sir, that is the one. Based on the gun that won the west the colt 45 revolver. In the 50s it was still ok to play with real looking weapons. No orange tips and plastic and strangly enough police did not shoot every kid that had one or a double. We played war, cowboys and Indians without adult supervision, or interference and most survived the events. On occasion you heard of some kid who shot his friend or family member, and then you got a lecture on gun safety.
I remember my father, (the old gunny) when I got my RR pistols reminding me to never point them at any one. Perhaps that is why our generation can not understand the "ban the gun" nuts. Our parents understood what the weapons were and were for and taught us safety first. I've not reasearched the numbers but my gut tells me that the out of control shooters in schools and malls grew ups with parents who were not trained in the use of weapons. Therefore, their children were not trained and the only experience they had with firearms was video games.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 5, 2023 20:26:28 GMT -8
There are an enormous number of yutes growing up without a father. As they say, There's your problem. Certainly gun safety – "Dammit, don't point that gun at anyone ever or I'll take it away and lock it up" – was a father thing. And the mechanics of gun safety are important, although I shot myself a number of times with BB ricochets. But we were not training to become criminals or sociopaths. That is the element that is behind the school shootings and such. We had loves and losses. We had to deal with bullies and bad teachers. But no sane kid back in the day would have taken his gun and shot up a room full of teachers and kids. That is well-developed evil that can do that. And you don't get that playing cowboys-and-Indians (or Germans and the Americans which was one of our favorites) with cap guns. It is not only neglect of yutes (placing limits on them...the father's primarily role of a son) that explains this. It's also the imparting, by whatever means, of sociopathic evil. Maybe it's the violent video games. Maybe it's the lack of a father at home. Maybe it's the awful drugs that idiot women (and some idiot fathers) are forcing down their kid's throat because they think normal boy behavior is something to be cured. Maybe it's black culture infecting white culture. It could be some of these and more. But we were at the time in no danger of (as you said) being shot by the cops or shooting them. Something has changed. We know in the overall that liberal culture has made people mean, unhappy, and violent. Perhaps that's the only explanation needed. But I can't help wondering about the specifics of how sociopathy is imparted to the kids these days. But I do think absent or jelly-spined fathers are a yuge part of it. But on a lighter, and frostier subject, I had one of these as a kid and I did keep it a fair number of years. Every once in a while (summer) I would drag it out and my mom or older sister would help me shave some ice and create some snow-cones. A great toy. Girls had Easy Bake ovens, and more power to them. My older sister had one and she would make really awful tasting things in it. But we would play along if invited and eat whatever she served. But grinding up ice with shards of metal and pouring colored sugar all over it was a boy thing. And we were glad to do it. You had to take a break now and then from a vigorous game of cowboys and Indians.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 5, 2023 21:44:34 GMT -8
In our neighborhood we did not go for the shaved ice but waited for the Good Humor Man. It wasn't a case of not liking shaved ice but a practical one. Until I was 12 we lived in San Bernadino, the old gunny finished his time in the Corps at 29 palms, and summers were scorchingly hot. A shaved or ground ice would last about 2 minutes in the 100-degree summer heat. Ice cream lasted much longer. And the ice cream truck was more special. In those days the Good Humor Man was a frozen delight wizard in a spotless white uniform, hat and a truck that was washed daily. The truck was packed with dry ice and conditioned and when he opened the side door condensation fog rolled out. The kids would all oh and awe. Now days its some kid in faded pants, T-shirt, both dirty, and driving so fast that it's almost impossible to go in the house get money and be back on the street before he has gone by. Just as well the ice cream is not that special anymore.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 8:23:51 GMT -8
You are like the Dave Barry of Realityville. Those are true-to-life memories that bring it all back and contain humor as well...a bit on the dark side, but that's not always a side that Dave covered adequately. The suit-and-tie days have given over to unkempt tattooed weirdos. But nowadays, we might praise a yute for even having a job, no matter how he was dressed. We live in an age of denial. No one wants to recognize that the meanness of society and of the streets – not to mention unkempt yutes – is largely due to socialism and all the downstream social pathologies that flow from it. Still, Christians and Jews have lived in worse times. And even if we don't "identify" (another word somewhat shot to hell) as Christians or Jews, given the falsity of vast numbers of both, I think we keep a legitimate flame going in our own way. When God calls our name, I don't think it will be in a wrathful way. But it's nice to have a break from all that. Toys and Christmas or Hanukkah memories are things worth cherishing, especially this time of year. And with all due respect to "what are little girls made of," I know much more of the frogs and snails. And as kids, I think we all secretly wanted to be Wernher von Braun. These compressed-air and water rockets were a staple in our yute: And they were another toy of stratospheric dimensions that tended to not be put away and forgotten after a few weeks, if only because they were so bloody indestructible. And did they ever come down a put a small dent in someone's car? I'm not saying. But we had a lot of fun with those things. And the balsa wood airplanes. That was not ever a Christmas toy, per se. They were cheap and we would regularly buy them at the drug store ourselves for dimes and nickels. They didn't last long. But they were a lot of fun too.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 6, 2023 9:51:35 GMT -8
Ours was a large family so we had every toy you show, except that particular pistol. We had plenty of others pistols though, whether cap pistols or one like this Mattel item below which shot plastic bullets. We generally got one "big" present for Christmas. For example, the Mattel gun would be considered a big present. I can recall getting some such pistol for Christmas and playing with it all day, making ricochet sounds. For example, I shot at the moon that night and waited some seconds for the bullet to reach the lunar surface. I would then would make the sound. Kids have a lot of imagination and don't need a lot to have fun. They are naturally inventive. We played Cowboys and Indians and Cowboys vs. Cowboys. I think it was only after Combat got popular that we went around shooting Nazis. Our guns got better/more lethal too.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 10:30:27 GMT -8
That sounds familiar although the pistol I had of that type was some kind of police 38 special or something. I vaguely remember it being part of a bubble-pack deputy kit that included a badge, holster, etc.
If you waited for about 2.5 seconds, you were also doing good science. Even so, that you knew there would be a delay was already ahead of the game for a kid.
I don't ever remember playing cowboys and Indians. It was usually the older kids playing the Americans against the Krauts and I would tag along. Older kids were always doing way cooler things.
That was certainly true in our case. We almost never drew between the lines. That is, to use a toy for its intended purpose was somewhat rare. We rarely played with Tonka Toys as seen in the commercials. They were always being rolled downhill or, more often, rolled at each other.
One time (probably more than one time) we had a big destruction derby on the large concrete patio at the nextdoor neighbor's place. There must have been fifteen kids there. We would all have a truck or car of some type (probably most were Tonkas) and at the starter's count of "1, 2, 3, Go!" we would shove them as hard as we could toward the center of the patio and hope for some explosive pile-ups. Yeah, sure. Girls are interchangeable with boys. You bet. Whatever you say, libtards.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 6, 2023 13:24:05 GMT -8
One of my best memories is going to the Orange Show in San Bernardino. This was in the 50s and oranges were a staple crop in the inland empire. We lived for a time in highlands CA. which was the center of orange farmers. It was possible to walk for miles through orange groves, and some grapefruit without seeing another person. We were never hungry just pick a fruit fresh off the tree. We regularly took our pellet guns with us and would bullseye lizards when we saw one.
The Orange show was a cross between fair, carnival, and trade show. The exibition halls would display the benifits of fresh oranges and juice, brought to you by your friends at Sunkist. One of the most facasating displays was the ancient tractors. There were working tractors from the early 1910s and 20s. These old machines would caugh and sputter, catch on and run smoothly. And of course the carny. In those days there still were actual real carnival people running the shows and rides. My dad had worked a carnival before joining the Marines and knew the language. If there was a game I liked he would lean over to the guy running it an whisper something in carny and wonder of wonder, I would win a prize. I remember one carny telling my dad, "I did'nt know you were with it" have a good time.
Thge oranges have gone from most of San Bernardino and so I guess the orange show has changed with the times. Houses now stand where we walked in the groves. Growth is part of the nature of things. The last time I walked through an orange grove was Oct of 73 in Israel. The Jezreal valley and the oranges were in bloom. the sweet smell of the blossoms laid their hands on all who ventured there. It was, for a moment, just like being 10 again and drifting through the orange groves of my youth.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 6, 2023 14:34:54 GMT -8
I first came across Blood Oranges from Israel when living in Europe in the 1970s. They were very popular, especially for making fresh orange juice.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 15:27:01 GMT -8
Just like the Mason. No outsider is ever going to learn the secret handshake.
I feel an intake of vitamin C just from reading your orange grove stories. In Washington (Eastern Washington) you could certainly walk for miles in apple orchards without seeing another thing. I've never done so. But I guess they have some big acreage over there east of the mountains. But apples don't have quite the exotic vibe as oranges.
I'm trying to figure out if that sounds more like Three Dog Night or Chicago. You spelled "yute" wrong, by the way.
There once was a traveler from Highland Whose orchards stretched miles on dry land And wherever he strove Was another orange grove In this land is yours and my land
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 6, 2023 15:36:06 GMT -8
That cadence made me think of this song.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 15:53:47 GMT -8
I ran across this game while looking though 60s/70s toys: It was kind of a fun game. Simple. You wonder what happens to these things. I certainly never remember becoming dissatisfied with it and in need of getting rid of it. I think the chain of events is something like this: Played with for a time > moved to back shelf or drawer > moved to attic > sold in garage sale. I think a lot of childhood memories took this path, although probably more than a few were simply thrown out because they weres broken.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 16:06:22 GMT -8
Yes, Mr. Flu. That fits perfectly. And I found the first two versus on one of their early albums:
Drifting through the orange groves of my youth. In CA, citrus was not the only fruit But I played by the rules, I always got ahead Psychedelic memories of the times before I wed.I could have traipsed in gardens of every type of nut Almonds, walnuts, acorns, wherever I could strut But nothing could compare to those juicy Rutaceae For a simple CA guy, whose a bit of an old hayseedAlmost makes you choke up.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 6, 2023 20:26:22 GMT -8
We came from a pretty decent middle class family. Maybe it was technically a little lower middle class. But such distinctions are meaningless in a world where rich kids are either shooting up schools or getting strung up on drugs. All we knew was what we considered the normality of living in a good neighborhood. Hell has a special place for the Democrats who trade safe neighborhoods for their constituents for sheer political power. We were generally happy and safe and considered this normal and had no appreciation for the vast goodness of America that made this possible. We had abundance at Christmas. Lots of good food. Lots of holiday decorations. And lots of presents, but not excessively so. Again, I didn't come from a financially rich family. But it seemed rich at the time. And for every boy, and probably every girl too, when Christmas came, we dreamed of what we wanted for Christmas. We scanned the propaganda (aka "advertisements") on television and were amazed by all the wonders and discovered all kinds of things that we couldn't live without. If only we dropped hints and begged enough. And a kid's life is full of dreamy visions of The Perfect Toy that would make one eternally happy...but that would turn to be something other than toy nirvana. One of those for me was Kenner's Spirograph. Just look a the images on that box. How cool is that? And, yes, you could, with some patience, create some nice designs. But it was extremely difficult (at least for me) to create those more intricate designs that you see on the box top because is was common for the pen and/or gears to slip. In an instant you'd ruin the design. The idea of it is splendid. But executing the dream was always a lesson in frustration. Luckily there's an online one you can use if you have the desire to create spiral masterpieces. And that's the life of a kid. We are dumb, spoiled, and cute in our own way. We never really appreciated what we had...but we did enjoy what we had a great deal. Our Toy Utopia perhaps was never realized. But a few of them came close. One of those was... I got this one year for Christmas and had years of fun. On a subsequent Christmas (or birthday) I got the "Creepy Crawlers" add-on pack that came with more metal molds and goop. Later I also got the Mini Dragons add-on and then the Creeple Peeple one. I played with all that off and on for years. And I still have it although I don't know if you can come by the goop anymore. The following is not a photo of the Mini Dragons that I made. But I did a fair imitation of them and still have a few of them. I may take a photo of them when I get a chance.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 7, 2023 8:28:43 GMT -8
Maybe reliving my childhood is all I have left. They were, by and large, happy times. It's not that I'm unhappy now. In fact, "happiness" as a raison d'être has been thrust upon us of late by a generally silly and narcissistic culture. As the great poet William Joel wrote: We should probably aim for more than that. But much of the stress in our society is because we've been thoroughly brainwashed with the expectation of being "happy." And I just don't think that's realistic. Happy moment, for sure. As a state-of-mind from the moment you wake up in the morning? Well, good luck with that. I've never had a magnetic personality, but I did used to have some rather large magnets which was a Christmas gift from probably the late 60s or early 70s. Incredibly, my younger brother was able to salvage it out of our attic before my mother could dispense with it. I believe these were called Monster Magnets. And, no, they were not composed of the so-called rate-earth magnets which are incredibly powerful. These would certainly pick up a few nails but the "monster" part was about the large plastic enclosure which, admittedly, was a pretty good gimmick. (And just look at it in all its kid-enticing original packaging.) And it takes balls to make a good Christmas tree. I happened upon a photo of a type that we had and that must have been fairly ubiquitous in the 60's.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 7, 2023 9:08:18 GMT -8
Before the age of 3D printers we had: Actually, my older brother had it. It may have been one of the most dangerous toys of all time, according to this Forbes writer: If you say so. The Vac-U-Form was just a great toy because you could make cool stuff with it. Still, such toys certainly could serve a dual purpose. You could indeed begin to learn useful crafts and techniques which such things. But, not if you're a girl… I could never write such pablum with a straight face. This is a great example of the emasculated male. It's an example of the Commissars getting you to say (with or without a rat cage tied to your face) that "two plus two equals five." I find it kind of chilling that someone could be so mindlessly programmed. A girl become a homemaker? Egad. The horrors. The Vac-U-Form is another item that my younger brother rescued from the attic. I think it's sitting around here somewhere but I don't know if you can still by the plastic molding material anymore. But he had hours of fun with that, as did I.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 7, 2023 9:14:29 GMT -8
I came to the conclusion in my early twenties that I didn't need to be happy, rather that I should aim for contentment. I still hold to this idea.
I would add that just as important is the idea of being curious. Staying interested in life, somewhat astounded by everything, can help one's attitude.
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