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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 16, 2022 10:45:43 GMT -8
Taking a break from detective novels, I found this in the non-fiction section of my local online library: Agent Zigzag. Eddie Chapman was, by all accounts, a born and natural criminal. After several years in and out of prison in Britain, he finds himself in prison once again on the Channel Island of Jersey. He's in the middle of serving a sentence when WWII breaks out and eventually the Germans occupy the islands. This 2007 book is based on some then recently-declassified documents from M15. Being a spy agency (and thanks to breaking various German codes), there is an enormous amount of fine-grained information about this man. I'm about 22% into it and the story has remained compelling so far. But because it does read like a novel, I don't want to give away too many details.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 16, 2022 19:44:15 GMT -8
When we think of the Nazis, we think of a well-oiled military machine. And it was. But the intelligence service was apparently often very second-rate.
There's an interesting anecdote about the Germans preparing Chapman for a mission into Britain. Chapman's superior tells him something like "Don't be offended, but before you leave for the plane, I will have to search you thoroughly for anything that could give you away as a spy.
Basically anything German or French in his possession – a clothing tag, some small bit in his wallet – would have to be removed if found.
So...with this advance warning, later that night Chapman burns several papers full of facts and figures he had written down and had in his possession that he was going to turn over to the British. (He wasn't at this point a double-agent. He was, I guess, just thinking ahead and keeping his options open.)
Then, later…
Oops. The British intelligence service, on the other hand, was fairly tightly organized with a bureaucracy that could actually move on a dime (at least for the double-cross program). For instance, even before Chapman's feet touched the ground when he jumped out of a German plane, British intelligence was already arranging for a rapid (but clandestine...the local population had to be kept in the dark) pick-up of Chapman with various phone calls made and various constables ready and informed as to what to do if they found someone.
And this rapid response was vital because any significant delay would be a hint to the Germans that a man had been captured and compromised. They had to turn him fast (if possible) and then be ready to radio back to German intelligence the "I made it" first message, etc.
One passage in the book noted how the Germans could sometimes miss the forest for the trees:
In another instance of "small details going unnoticed", when Chapman jumped out of the panel at the bottom of the specially-modified Focke-Wulf, his backpack was larger than the hole and he was suspended upside down in a plane going about 350 mph for ten seconds or so. A fast-thinking crewman (there were 3 aviators and Chapman in the plane) stomped on his back with his boot and got him unstuck. Chapman had successfully jumped several times in his training. But when he hit the ground, he was severely traumatized by this particular jump. I guess he just missed a building on the way down as well.
Yeah, maybe day-to-day Cold War intelligence work is very boring. But certainly the intelligence work during the war could be very much James Bond.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 16, 2022 19:57:06 GMT -8
British Intelligence wrapped up all German spies very quickly. As I recall, this was proven by Abwehr and other agency documents which were studied after the war. Some spies, but not that many, were executed. Many were turned and acted as double agents.
The best spies were communists. They burrowed into Nazi, British, American and Japanese societies and important institutions.
Nazi Germany was not nearly as efficient as most think. One of the main reasons for this is that Hitler intentionally played the "divide and rule" game to perfection. He took no chances with the possibility of a subordinate taking over. Unfortunately for the Nazis, it was often the case that ministries not only did not work together on projects, they often competed against each other. The rivalry between top Nazi officials was fierce, thus cooperation was minimal.
As to the Abwehr, there is some dispute about Admiral Canaris' motivation, but there is no doubt that he actively undermined the Nazi Regime. He was connected to the July Plot in which von Stauffenberg failed in his attempt to assassinate Hitler. That conspiracy was also somewhat amateurish. Nihilists and Bolsheviks were willing to sacrifice themselves to get their victims. Apparently, even when drastic measures were required, the Germans were not willing or able to take them. That said, Hitler was very lucky throughout his life as regards assassination attempts. He survived a good number of them over the years. He eventually began to believe that providence had saved him from these actions.
Canaris was executed in April of 1945. Many "enemies" of the Nazi State, who had been imprisoned for years, were killed in prisons the month before the Nazi surrender. I believe the man who had planted a bomb in one of Hitler's speeches in the middle 1930s (Hitler left early so the bomb exploded too late) had been kept alive until the end of the war. He got the chop with all the others.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 16, 2022 20:08:32 GMT -8
That's consistent with what I'm reading. And apparently they would execute a prisoner every once in a while just for appearance's sake, to mislead the Nazis.
When one was successfully turned, it was up to the "Twenty Committee" to decide what useless, harmless, or false information would be fed back to the Germans to keep them fooled. The committee was so-named because "the two Xs of a double cross make the number 'twenty' in Roman numerals." Pretty nifty.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 17, 2022 9:03:15 GMT -8
Apparently the success rate for turning Nazi spies was very high. They had a crew (especially Masterman) who understood the psychology. I like this passage:
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Post by artraveler on Jan 17, 2022 9:48:30 GMT -8
Apparently the success rate for turning Nazi spies was very high MI 5 and MI 6 were up until the end of WWI the most successful intelligence office in the world and had a long tradition going back to Elizabeth I. As Hitler was preparing for war in the spring of 1939 the United States intelligence community consisted of various offices existing in the military and mostly reading newspapers. Thus, each service had its own G-2 office working intelligence solely for the benefit of that service. It would not be until 1942 that the OSS was officially formed to gather and coordinate intelligence. However, in late 1939 American officers were sent to England to "learn the ropes" of British intelligence. Secrets the British only gave up out of desperation. These officers would later become the core of the OSS and after the war the senior staff of the newly formed Central Intelligence Agency. By 1947 CIA became the chief agency in the world for the duration of the Cold War. But everything we had learned was from the British. When we talk of tradecraft, false flag operations, double agents, honey traps, and violence like many other American traditions, we learned it from the Brits.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 17, 2022 10:02:31 GMT -8
We haven't got into the aspect of any British-American relations yet. But certainly nothing focuses the mind, as they say, like an impending hanging. And the British certainly (at some point), when faced with the prospect of invasion by the Nazis, got rid of their illusions and (as another wonderful book I read about British spying) were not limited by "the gentlemanly thing to do." Not reading each other's mail, and that sort of stuff.
I don't know if the picture here is too rosy. But the British seemed to be in a league above the Germans….if only you consider that by cracking Enigma, they indeed were reading their mail.
If the British were brilliant in their defense, it likely was because they did a lot of useful things "out of desperation." And despite the Eton-led upper-crust running things, it's interesting (as you see in this book) that not even social snobbery would prevent Masterman (or others) from taking advantage of someone like Chapman...even if many (and for damn good reasons) didn't completely trust him.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 17, 2022 10:21:37 GMT -8
But Lord Rothschild took a shine to Chapman. He loved sitting around drinking whiskey and discussing the various methods of sabotage and bomb-making.
One of the interesting passages mentioned how easy it was to obtain in England the ingredients for various types of bombs. It was literally easier, because of rationing, than obtaining the ingredients to bake a cake.
And once turned, Chapman had to go through all the motions of collecting ingredients for a bomb so that he would then have instinctive and believable things to tell the Germans when he was interrogated. He was constantly tasked with various acts of "verisimilitude" so that the story he gave to the Germans would be grounded in reality.
Including the very interesting fake blowing up of the power plant at the Mosquito factory.
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Post by artraveler on Jan 17, 2022 10:57:01 GMT -8
Not reading each other's mail, and that sort of stuff. Ha, CIA never had a problem with that. We learned it from the Brits and Lord Walsingham Elizabeth I master of intelligence. From about 1950 until 1976 every piece of mail going to or from the Soviet Union was read and copied in the basement CIA office. The man that ran the program was my old boss James Angleton and we gained a world of intelligence. Even the Soviets believed in the American postal service and that opening and reading other gentleman's mail would never happen. This was one of the thing Colby gave up to the Church committee to keep them away from the real Crown Jewels.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 17, 2022 21:39:35 GMT -8
What a strange tale. Even with the stranger (and horrifying) backdrop of Nazi Germany, this Chapman guy was odd and stands out as remarkably bizarre.
Frankly, although I enjoyed this book, it left me a bit depressed and consternated. Maybe it's just the realization that evil people tend to have more fun. That just rubs me the wrong way but I suspect it's true.
And Chapman was a dirtbag but with some selective virtues. As Tin Eye Stephens (the hot-shot interrogator and turner of many German spies) wrote:
This guy was truly a moral quagmire. And yet people liked him. Even those who knew his background still liked him.
Obviously with a war on, there are considerations other than a guy's character. And certainly this was not a guy that M15 sought out. He was thrown into their lap by the Germans and they had to make the best of it.
At some point the book seems to run on a bit long. Or at least the Chapman story begins to get old. But there are a lot of interesting intelligence stories and anecdotes inserted into this. Much of this I had never heard of including the faking of the bombing of the Mosquito plant.
Chapman was obviously a charismatic and likable guy. But at the end of this (or nearing the end of the war), I would not have been surprised to read that M15 put a bullet into his head to silence him.
But it is what it is. This isn't a novel. It's history. And it's an ugly one in part. But well worth a read.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 18, 2022 8:31:57 GMT -8
One of Chapman's primary handlers is eventually promoted and Chapman gets a new one. This is after he has returned from Germany a second time and it's late 1944. There is no question in the mind of MI5 that he can ever go back. He's feeding the Germans too much valuable disinformation in his current capacity. And, of course, if he went back and was discovered as a double agent, then all the disinformation the Germans had been fed would be all but valueless.
This new handler immediately doesn't like Chapman and wants to get rid of him and works to do so by putting him under surveillance. The author kind of comes down on this new handler as a heavy. But what this handler is seeing is a guy who is spending his free hours with a host of all-star criminals as well as being engaged in profiting from fixed dog races. Plus, he has spilled the bean to at least two people (possible three...his main sponsor in Germany) that he is a British spy.
The evidence collected is shown to his superiors and it is pretty much unanimous that this guy has now outlived his usefulness. Still, through the years, apparently MI5 still shields him from being sentenced for new crimes he has committed.
There's no doubt that MI5 has some kind of a man-crush for this sometimes useful scoundrel. But the new handler almost certainly did a service to MI5 and the country by getting rid of him when they did and breaking that spell before MI5 was really burned.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 26, 2023 13:56:07 GMT -8
I was watching an old episode of To Tell The Truth at lunch today on YouTube. And who should be the subject of that show but Eddie Chapman. I immediately recognized him (or thought I did) and I guessed right. Will you without Googling?
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 26, 2023 15:42:49 GMT -8
I could not guess because I thought the questions were not very good. Kitty got off on Peenemunde, but no V1s were launched from there it was too far away from the U.K.. As I recall, most were launched from North France. Furthermore, the V2s, not the V1s, were developed in Peenemunde. Kitty then got off on Von Braun, but I doubt a spy would know the man's name and in fact Von Braun answered to an SS General. Finally, I was surprised that Tom thought the first V1 landed in London during October 1941. They were a much later development. I checked and the first V1 hit London in 1944. Luckily, the British Typhoon or Tempest was fast enough to sometimes catch up to the V1 and flip it with it's wing. A dangerous maneuver.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 26, 2023 20:47:52 GMT -8
I get the feeling that Tom Poston was doing what Hillary Clinton did when she said (at some foreign airport) that she was dodging bullets on the way to the car. Liberals love to exaggerate and paint themselves as heroes. I think you caught Poston in a whopper although it's always possible that his memory was a bit off.
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