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Post by artraveler on Mar 8, 2022 13:56:05 GMT -8
An interesting side effect of the war is that thousands of Jews living in Ukraine are making their way to Israel. The Jewish Agency is issuing travel documents in at least 10 cities in Eastern Europe, mainly Poland and providing immigration assistance. My son has told me that Ukrainian Jews make up the bulk, but there are also many Russian Jews. Israel is expecting as many as 100,000 this year. This will match the numbers that emigrated after the fall of the Soviet state. This will have an interesting change in Israeli demographics as over the last 20 years the state has trended more conservative.
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Mar 8, 2022 14:26:55 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 14:26:55 GMT -8
The Poles have put the ball in America's court, i.e. called Blicken's bluff. As I said yesterday, the Poles and others understand very well that the Americans are quite willing to fight until the last Pole, Slovak, Hungarian, (fill in the blank.) They are, clearly, tired of the dishonest and stupid way the USA is handling this crisis. The American government's dishonesty, stupidity and recklessness is putting the world at risk. Take our jets, please By the way, blockbuster info is coming out that the US has been financing and possibly working in biolabs in the UKraine. (More gifts from Anthony Fauci) This was, just as good as, confirmed by Victoria Nuland today in a congressional hearing. At the risk of repeating myself, I can't wait for the Russians to get hold of Ukrainian documents on the Bidens, Clintons and other criminals of the American ruling class.
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Mar 8, 2022 14:28:53 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 14:28:53 GMT -8
Almost 2 million Ukrainian refugees have made their way to Europe already. I figure if the war goes on for another week or two, that number will get close to 5 million.
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Mar 8, 2022 15:49:54 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 15:49:54 GMT -8
Reality seems to be setting in. Had Zelensky not fallen for NATO/American lies regarding the possibility of the Ukraine joining NATO, had the US not lied about this for 15 years, (at least) had the USA not goaded Russia for over thirty years, then Zelensky would not be watching as the Russians take over his country. Americans need to remember that the permanent bureaucracy and uniparty/neocons are not the same as the American people. One can despise those and love America. In fact, I believe that if one does love America one is almost bound to despise and mistrust the bureaucracy and uniparty/neocon clique'. They rarely do anything for the good of "the People." They are all about lining their own pockets and increasing their own power. Zelensky is seeing the light
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Mar 8, 2022 17:37:57 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 17:37:57 GMT -8
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Mar 8, 2022 18:00:55 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 18:00:55 GMT -8
Financial markets are averse to threats of chaos and deathKunstler has it half right. As I have mentioned before at this site and perhaps at ST, businesses, in general, are averse to chaos. Death not so much. If they could regularly count on 100 people being lined up against a wall every morning and shot, believe me, business could adjust to it. This would particularly be the case if those being shot were not other businessmen and/or middle-class consumers. The main request businesses would have of the executioners, besides "Please point that rifle in another direction," would be, "Kindly let us know if the number of people, to be shot in the near future, is to change significantly. Thanks and regards."
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Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 21:13:02 GMT -8
Others are reaching the same conclusion that I, and I believe Artler, have. The Biden administration is working for the other side. Who's paying them?
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Post by artraveler on Mar 8, 2022 21:19:15 GMT -8
This is true
I asked my son this afternoon if he had heard of this and apparently the Saudis are very pissed at Biden for cozying up to the mulahs in Iran. And then having the chutzpah to ask the Saudis to release more oil on the market. Proves what Gates said of Biden, "been on the wrong side of every policy for 50 years"
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Mar 8, 2022 21:34:17 GMT -8
Post by artraveler on Mar 8, 2022 21:34:17 GMT -8
The Biden administration is working for the other side. Not just working for the other side, they are the other side. We are talking a Manchurian candidate kind of treason for not only this administration but also the eight long years of Obama.
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Post by artraveler on Mar 8, 2022 21:59:03 GMT -8
This war presents a very difficult position for the State of Israel. Under normal conditions Israel would condemn aggression and the active steps to support any country invaded by its neighbors. The Russian Invasion of Ukraine has stimulated humanitarian aid to Ukraine, but Israel cannot send military aid (iron dome) unless NATO gets involved, possibly not then. My son relates that Russia has been extremely cooperative with Israel in Syria when Iranian installations, and convoys are targeted by Israeli F35s.
Israeli and Russian intelligence, and military work closely to avoid conflict in an ares that could explode almost any minute. Of course it is these very same Russians that are selling advanced tech to Iran that Israel later destroys in the deserts of Syria and Iraq. This is also part of the reason the Saudis refused to condemn the Russian invasion. Bennet recently met with Putin to try and negotiate a cease fire, but to no success.
My guess is that Putin has about 10 days to achieve has ground goals before his army runs out of steam, if they haven't already. Both sides are involved in a propaganda war. However, I give the edge to Ukraine by about 60/40. The most important point will be when Kiev falls. Russian arms can destroy the city I wonder if Putin is willing to pay the cost in blood, treasure, and public opinion at home?
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Mar 8, 2022 22:36:10 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 22:36:10 GMT -8
Yes, this is more accurate than my formulation.
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Mar 8, 2022 22:41:53 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 8, 2022 22:41:53 GMT -8
I suspect that if some sort of major progress is not made in negotiations during this week, that Putin will "let slip the dogs of war" in a bigger way than he has so far. I understand that about half of the Ukrainian army is now encircled in the East and soldiers will have the choice of surrendering or being destroyed. Of course, in such situations, the bitter enders will likely threaten to kill or kill anyone who wishes to give up. The NKVD was very good at that. I am pretty sure the Azov Brigade and similar types will function in a like manner.
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Mar 9, 2022 11:04:12 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 9, 2022 11:04:12 GMT -8
That's probably one of Ukraine's greatest assets right now. I read a Fox News article that noted the same thing, that perhaps Putin did not count on his murderous aggression getting the headlines that it is. He thought he could do this in the dark. Whatever the ultimate outcome, his organized murder of Ukrainians is not being done in the dark.
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Mar 9, 2022 13:30:22 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 9, 2022 13:30:22 GMT -8
Here is a piece from a respected Indian journalist who was previously in the diplomatic service. He confirms what I have heard/read from other non-USA/non-U.K. sources as to the actual situation in the Ukraine. The Ukraine is negotiating for a stop to the war
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Mar 10, 2022 6:54:29 GMT -8
Post by artraveler on Mar 10, 2022 6:54:29 GMT -8
So now we have Kamala Harris in Poland using her best effort to end the war. Willy Brown reports that she is only good at two jobs, hand and blow.
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Mar 10, 2022 14:42:02 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Mar 10, 2022 14:42:02 GMT -8
It is interesting how Rod Dreher has gained new insight into how the world works, since he moved to Budapest. I suspect that Dreher's escape from the American-news-echo-chamber has helped him re-discover (or discover) Kung's 1st Dictum: "Life is complicated." Skepticism is healthy
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Mar 10, 2022 16:32:31 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 10, 2022 16:32:31 GMT -8
Oh. goodness gracious. Fuck the Russians. I don't care if the Ukranians are using propaganda. They're the ones being invaded. Their best weapon is international sympathy and aid. If it's only 10 dead children instead of 30, it's still 10 dead children at the hands of the murdering Russians.
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Mar 10, 2022 16:59:49 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 10, 2022 16:59:49 GMT -8
Here was Rod's lame response to my post of:
"A mind is a terrible thing to lose, Brad."
I replied to him basically saying that an insult wasn't a response to any of my broad points. And that basically calling someone crazy because they disagree with you doesn't put you on the side of the angels.
I've not a lot of respect left for this guy.
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Mar 10, 2022 17:12:29 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 10, 2022 17:12:29 GMT -8
Facebook, Instagram temporarily allowing calls for violence against Putin, Russians among some European usersGood. It's about time the libtards were of some use. Put it down to, again, the phenomenon of a stopped clock being right twice a day. One poster reveals the feeble conservative Zeitgeist of the moment: I'm second to none in my dislike of "social" media or wokeness. But Zuckerberg is not threatening a neighboring country with annihilation. Putin is. Jesus H. Christ. People need to get a grip and a sense of perspective and some moral clarity.
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Mar 10, 2022 17:38:15 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 10, 2022 17:38:15 GMT -8
The conservative blogosphere has lost its collective mind. The post that included this at Townhall had 58 up votes:
It is not certain that Putin wouldn't be doing the same thing if Trump were president. Although Biden's foreign policy is inept and immoral, he didn't line up the tanks and roll them into Ukraine.
This need to deflect from Putin's actions and blame Biden (or the Ukranians themselves) is not conservatism's finest hour.
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