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Post by timothylane on Aug 8, 2019 10:52:08 GMT -8
There probably is a good idea in allowing closer access to beautiful religious art, such as the ceiling of the Sistine chapel. But it's one thing to make that possible, and another thing to turn it into a carnival ride. Hey, how about a Ferris wheel? It would allow everyone on it to get a good view periodically. And no doubt there are some sideshows that would fit in as well.
Well, it could be worse, I guess. Back when we were in Greece, a friend told a joke about a priest who was admonished by his bishop for one thing: freezing holy water and selling it as popesicles. I suppose that would be the Good News man instead of the Good Humor man.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 8, 2019 10:56:40 GMT -8
LOL. My belly laugh for the day.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 10, 2019 8:01:36 GMT -8
I read an article (or comment to an article) today (I forget where) that mentioned someone’s trip to Germany. He said that in all the thrift shops and flee markets you could find religious trinkets. It appeared that religion had been thrown on the trash heap.
I see nothing wrong with that. Christian cathedrals and churches have always been a central repository for the best of art. But the putt-putt course inside a church is obviously crossing a line.
But remember which line we’re crossing (whether considering putt-putt courses or universal salvation): It is Christianity which must give way to the rest of the culture, not the other way around. Try putting a putt-putt course in and around Martin Luther King’s grave as a way to “bring people to the civil rights cause in roundabout means”.
Always giving, never demanding. Today’s Christianity. And the reality is, the churches in Europe, from what I understand, have little function left other than as tourist attractions and art repositories. At least be glad they’re not open homosexual and pedophilia recruitment centers.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 10, 2019 8:57:09 GMT -8
They still held services in Notre Dame before it burned, though I don't know how many attendees are locals who do so regularly and how many are tourists. No doubt others are still in use -- especially as you get further from the beating heart of European atheism (probably Paris, which is also a major center of European Islam -- and that probably isn't a coincidence).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 10, 2019 11:47:18 GMT -8
I thought the perfect reflection of the times was an article I read recently (linked from Drudge, I believe….perhaps this article or one like it). It talked about this new band of people who are going all “natural” — that is, they are forgoing bathing as a means for skin health. Their claim is that all that bathing and showering is harmful to the skin and that one is much better to let the “good” bacteria take up residence. This supposedly induces a condition in which one doesn’t stink. I’ll believe that when I smell it. But religion has been the traditional way of morally bathing. Now we’re a society of kooks who take up foolish-faddish notions. And the only thing that can make such notions true is a bunch of idiots believing the same thing (and covering their noses). Granted, bathing with mild soap and not scrubbing hard is a must. But the greatest benefit to health wasn’t penicillin. It was cleanliness. Bar none. No other cause did as much for people’s health and well being. Without a doubt, there are “good” bacteria that live in our gut. That is not the contention. The contention is whether being filthy and never taking a bath is not only good for you (it isn’t) but produces no smell (this would be impossible). And that’s not to contest that there might be good skin bacteria. But I know kooks when I read them. If you’ve spent any time on any particularly day at even mildly physical activity, you’re going to get dirty and smelly. Take a shower. Use mild soap. Don’t scrub hard. Rinse thoroughly. And the #1 skin care protection that makes all this “good” bacteria nonsense pale in comparison is stay out of the sun (or use a good screen blocker). That’s not to say that religion isn’t full of foolish-faddish people. The hard sell for religion in this current age are all the kool-aid drinkers and wafer-thin people who make an idol out of the bath water without actually dipping their toes into it.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 10, 2019 11:59:05 GMT -8
The wound care people always insisted that my leg ulcers needed to be washed with soap and water. For various reasons this never happened (and they didn't do it when I visited). Then the nursing home started to give me showers instead of bed baths (at least sometimes), and thus to clean the ulcers (which had already healed to a considerable extent). Now my legs just have occasional minor wounds (due to fragile skin on my calves) that do heal.
On the other hand, I still go to wound care, theoretically every other weeks, and the calves and feet still get bandaged -- but mainly to protect that fragile skin.
I'm very skeptical that there are any good bacteria on the skin, though I suppose it's theoretically possible to have bacteria that prey on pests such as fleas, lice, ticks, mites, etc. Not all bacteria are harmful, but that's another matter. And bacteria that are harmless on unbroken skin can become a problem on broken skin or if ingested through the nose or mouth.
I wonder what the rate of infestation among these natural types is for pinworms, itch mites, and lice. At least 2 of these were big problem with the Occupiers, as readers will no doubt recall.
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 9, 2019 15:53:13 GMT -8
This piece should give us a good idea of just how vapid much of "science" truly is. Aliens are just waitingHow anyone could call such a thing a "study" is beyond me. Speculation, day-dreaming, shooting the bull, I could accept, but "study", no way.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 9, 2019 16:14:16 GMT -8
I see what you mean. A scientific study has to involve some sort of genuine evidence, but all they seem to have (assuming the report is accurate and complete, which is no guarantee) is pure speculation. It has about as much validity as Harry Turtledove's short story of aliens landing on Earth and, due to some mechanical problem, emptying out their aquarium -- thereby initiating the Cambrian Explosion.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 11, 2020 20:47:48 GMT -8
I just read an article by Roger Kimball in The New Criterion titled, "What's Left of Descartes?" In short, the article goes over how influential Descartes was on modern thought through his "formulation of the so-called "New Science" that was destined to replace the contemplative model of science inherited from Greeks."Kimball states, To an unprecedented degree, Descartes understood that the citadel of nature could be successfully stormed only by redescribing reality in the language of mathematics-thus purging the visual world of all that was merely visual-and then by testing those descriptions in experiment. ...underlying Descartes' "method" was a fateful new attitude toward both the self and the world. As the image of rendering man the master and possessor of nature suggests, physical reality was henceforth to be seen as a homogenous field for human experimentation, manipulation, and reconstruction. " Thus it was that Descartes' efforts to achieve certainty by withholding assent from everything susceptible to doubt instigated a revolution not just in philosophy but in the whole tenor of intellectual life.
Kimball questions if Descartes would have welcomed Marx's, Nietzsche's or Freud's "determination to subject every accepted opinion to the corrosive scrutiny of doubt." And here is Kimball's reply to that thought, which is why I am writing this post. In the Discourse on Method, Descartes warns that the "resolution to get rid of all opinions one has so far admitted to belief is in itself not an example for everybody to follow." For one thing, he explains, it is just the sort of thing to tempt those many people "who think they are more clever than the are, and cannot help forming precipitate judgements." Jacques Derrida, where are you?
Let me put the question,
What is today's insanity if not a case of "those many people who think they are more clever than they are forming precipitate judgements?" Much of today's world view has been formed by educated simpletons who have been allowed to pontificate on things above their intellectual capabilities, and thus lead illiterate simpletons down destructive paths. The unfortunate results are beginning to unfold before us.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 11, 2020 20:54:03 GMT -8
Of course, Descartes is famous for starting from first principles -- proving that he himself existed. Hence "cogito ergo sum", by which he proved that proposition. That's not the same thing as skepticism of everything (particularly of logical reasoning, mathematics, and observable facts), but it may not be that far from it, either.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 11, 2020 20:59:57 GMT -8
The article goes into much more detail than I covered, so the question of skepticism is more fully addressed. By chance, or not, I am reading Will Durant's "The Age of Louis XIV" and it is in this or Durant's "The Age of Reason Begins" that there was a pretty good short bio on Descartes. He was certainly a strange man. He constantly moved to avoid being disturbed by family, friends and admirers. I can understand that from the point of view that really deep thought requires long and quiet reflection, which cannot generally be maintained in the normal hustle and bustle of life.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 12, 2020 7:32:03 GMT -8
And it has culminated with these idiots who post “Science is real” (often along with “Climate change is real”) signs in their yards. They boast about the day when “science” triumphed over superstition and orthodoxy via Galileo. But the orthodoxy and superstition (the “multiverse” is another good example of superstition) has simply changed addresses.
Only uneducated fools could believe in “Climate change.” Anyone steeped in the scientific method would now that this phrase is not in the least scientific because it does not propose an idea that can be falsified.
We are witnessing the return of scientific illiteracy even as the Left claims that everyone but them believes in “science.” It’s sheer bat-shit crazy. And thoroughly delusional and dishonest.
That materialism deeply infects “science” is a given. For shrinking microchips down to 5 nanometers, it’s been a good method. For understanding almost anything else, it’s like putting on a set of blinkers.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 12, 2020 8:50:33 GMT -8
We are witnessing the return of scientific illiteracy even as the Left claims that everyone but them believes in “science.” It’s sheer bat-shit crazy. And thoroughly delusional and dishonest. The poet Henie commented that where they first burn books they will burn people. The history of the 20th century confirms his comment. What we are witnessing in the cities on fire is a pagan ritual and it is only a small step until the fires are for people. Their concept of "science" is only science if it agrees with their assumptions of political correctness. A large part of our culture has become pagan. The tribalism is the most apparent symbol of the Neo-paganism but the focus on only science that fits the PC norm is another, comparable to astrology and tea leaf reading. There is no possible scenario that has this ending well. There will be increasing violence and bloodshed. It is only a question of how many will die to put the pagan in his place.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 12, 2020 9:08:00 GMT -8
Sadly, I can't disagree with you. For some years now, I have thought that violence will have to be used to protect ourselves from these modern-day pagans.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 12, 2020 9:10:42 GMT -8
There have been at least a few incidents of the Insurrection burning buildings with people (not always cops) inside. So we're already at the burning people stage, or at the least it's incipient.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 12, 2020 11:26:00 GMT -8
Namby-Pamby meter reading: 0.92. Sugar-Coating Level: .025 grains. Couldn’t Agree More Level: 97.6%. I don’t know where that other 2.4% is. It could be just a statistical error,
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 31, 2021 8:12:29 GMT -8
Happy Halloween! What do you call a chicken that haunts your house? A poultrygeist.
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Post by kungfuzu on Nov 10, 2024 17:52:07 GMT -8
The below video is a fascinating interview of a man named Christopher Langan. He has an IQ of somewhere between 195 and 210 so he has at least 60 points on me. But damn if much of this discussion doesn't sound like some of the discussions Brad and I had some years back.
The two also go into what is actually happening in the world today and who is truly running things. These discussions also sound like they are out of R&T.
It is long, 1:58 minutes, but I found it well worth the time.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 11, 2024 7:59:38 GMT -8
"They attribute the existence of everything to themselves . . . that's why Buddhism is very fashionable [among the liberal types]." Knock me over with a feather. But very well reasoned. More quotes:
"You violated groupthink, so you're out."
"I'm a conservative in a stronger sense than most people who call themselves conservatives today. Because they're really just cuckolded by the liberals."
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Post by kungfuzu on Nov 11, 2024 9:43:45 GMT -8
I knew you would like that. The moment he said that, I knew you needed to watch the video.
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