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Jun 29, 2022 9:14:51 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 9:14:51 GMT -8
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Jun 29, 2022 11:41:05 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 11:41:05 GMT -8
A few days after this poll, another national poll came out which showed Trump well ahead of any competition. There is a long way to go and a lot can happen between now and November 2024. That said, I still expect Trump to be the Republican candidate. If De Santis runs, there is a good chance that he would split the party and damage his future career. I still believe the best ticket would be Trump/De Santis. But as I said before, I believe there is a constitutional problem with such a ticket. There is also the question of De Santis leaving Florida. He has been so successful in pushing Florida to the right that I am not sure it would be a good thing for him to leave the governorship before he has to.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 29, 2022 12:34:04 GMT -8
The one thing Trump has been doing for the last 6 years is raising money in a very aggressive fashion. Many of the candidates he endorses also get campaign funds, thus they owe favors and political loyalty. Even DeSantis is on the list. Does that discount him from a run for the WH? Probably not, but I think most republicans, myself included, may dislike Trump's style. We like his policy and policy is the key. DeSantis can wait four years a DeSantis/Cotton ticket in 2028 might be just the thing.
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Jun 29, 2022 13:42:38 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 13:42:38 GMT -8
I thought the most telling (and most honest) point by York was this:
I can see all the windbags at National Review having a good pout over that thought. In no way, shape, or form could they acknowledge that Trump, rather than these blowhards, has a better understanding of what people want.
What Trump can deliver is another thing. I don't trust the man. Someone wrote the other day that if he does run he needs to dump his complaining about the 2020 election. He's got to move forward from there or he's just going to sound like a broken record.
By all accounts the man is indeed collecting a lot of money. As Ann Coulter notes, a lot of it is collected under the guise of fixing election fraud. But he didn't do much in office and I wouldn't expect him to do much if in office. I do not believe that Donald Trump is capable of the kind of change required to be a success in a non-consecutive term.
But throw logic to the wind. Although I think Trump has a core constituency who will not leave him, I think the constituency who will never vote for this clown is significant enough that he has no chance at winning the presidency. He couldn't even win against a buffoon like Biden.
But who knows? What we do know is that if Trump runs it will never be a dull moment. A selfish part of me would like to see him run just to make all the cunts on the Left (and David French) cry.
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Jun 29, 2022 14:23:15 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 14:23:15 GMT -8
A part of me dreams of a scenario in which Trump tells the country that he has decided not to run for the presidency due to his age as he believes the country needs a young strong leader. Then Trump throws his support behind De Santis and campaigns with him from February of 2024 to November 8, 2024.
Of course, I know this will not happen, but it would be interesting.
For the record, the main question I have about De Santis is his foreign policy stance. I have not seen anything on this.
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Jun 29, 2022 14:46:38 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 14:46:38 GMT -8
I think Trump is running. There is zero doubt of that. And a Trump/DeSantis ticket isn't out of the question. From the governor's point of view, he would be smart to wait to be drafted as VP. That's what I would advise him, anyway. Trump is the elephant in the room and everything revolves around him. I see no up side to running against him.
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Jun 29, 2022 14:58:53 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 14:58:53 GMT -8
I had intentionally avoided this subject as I found it so silly that I was convinced nobody with a brain would believe it. But now the Washington Examiner has swallowed the lies of Cassidy Hutchinson hook, line and sinker and I have to react. Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the Beast Let us look at this logically. If anyone has taken a few seconds to look at the Beast, one would immediately see that for Trump to try and grab the steering wheel of the Beast he would have had to go over a couple of rows of seats. Furthermore, such automobiles virtually always have a glass/plexiglass divider between the driver's seat and the passagers. This has been confirmed by various people who rode in the Beast during Trump's term. Once the idiots in Congress saw the foolishness of the claim, they changed tack and said that it happened in the Suburban not the Beast. But again, people who have ridden in the Suburban have also stated that there is a plexiglass divider between the driver's seat and the passengers. Hutchinson also claimed that Trump tried to strangle his Secret Service agent. On the surface of it, this is nonsense. No President needs to resort to physical violence to get his will done in such a case. If a secret service agent refused a direct order to drive Trump to the Capitol, then he could be fired. Although I find it hard to understand, there are many people in the USA who are so credulous as to believe this type of garbage. But for those mindless, gullible, stupid people the Secret Service put a dagger into Hutchinson's testimony when they put out a statement denying Hutchinson's claims regarding the above. P.S. I checked the ownership of the Washington Examiner and was not surprised that it was owned by Philip Anschutz, i.e. it is an establishment Republican paper.
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Jun 29, 2022 15:23:10 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 29, 2022 15:23:10 GMT -8
As in independent Trump observer, here's the thing: It's not particularly a secret that Trump is "unstable, unmoored, and absolutely heedless." Even those who like him (especially those who know him personally) understand that he is a force of nature. He is not easily controlled.
Given the entrenched interests in Washington, none of these traits are particularly damaging. Many probably see them as admirable.
The question is whether Trump will run on grievance or a more positive message.
I don't doubt that at all. But the central point is that this kind of stuff is far more important to RINOs and Marxists than it is to the average voter who is dealing with inflation and other matters.
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Jun 29, 2022 15:50:25 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 29, 2022 15:50:25 GMT -8
It may well be. But why screw up one's point with absolutely stupid lies which can be disproved? The fact that the Secret Service came out refuting this woman's statement was damning. Perhaps more damning is the fact that the Kangaroo Court did not ask the Secret Service agents, who reportedly were willing to testify under oath, to come to Capitol Hill and go before the Roos.
This is another case of being ruled by fools and idiots. If you are going to fight someone, make a well thought out plan and don't screw things up by bringing in dishonest witnesses who are not smart enough to make up believable lies.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 29, 2022 19:01:56 GMT -8
But why screw up one's point with absolutely stupid lies which can be disproved? It doesn't matter that it is easily disproved the media will give their customary fluff job and the uninformed will march in lockstep. What they have done is create an incredibly bad melodrama where we are supposed to boo and hiss the "orange man" and applied the guy in the white hat. If it weren't for the Stalinist quality of it we could just laugh. As it is I want to throw up.
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Jun 30, 2022 5:14:56 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 30, 2022 5:14:56 GMT -8
Levin was hot under the collar about the Stalinist aspect of it. My point would be, the kinds of things this chick said, I can definitely see Trump doing. Is she lying? I think we've crossed the point where either side has a particularly hard grasp of the truth.
But what voters probably care more about is inflation, illegal immigration, and various items like that. I just read that Arizona passed a very good voucher system for schools. This is the type of thing that parents are more likely to be concerned with. Trump, if he wishes to be re-elected, should take this up as an issue.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 30, 2022 11:06:27 GMT -8
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Jun 30, 2022 11:10:49 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Jun 30, 2022 11:10:49 GMT -8
I believe we all know that politicians, bureaucrats and their hangers-on are by-in-large liars. This is nothing new or specific to our times. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive'.
But you do approach the crux of the matter with your next sentence. All sane people know politicians lie, but they are also smart enough to figure out whose/which lies matter and whose/which don't. In the end, people don't mind liars so much it they are able to institute policies which bring about a general good. Trump and his administration brought about much more general good than these criminals presently holding the House, Senate and White House.
This is why I think you are wrong as to Trump's chances of winning in 2024. This administration has done, and is doing, so much damage to the nation and the world that it will take years to recover. I know two years is a long time, but I suspect the country will still be in difficult times in 2024.
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Jun 30, 2022 12:23:29 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 30, 2022 12:23:29 GMT -8
Yes. It really is.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 30, 2022 13:01:12 GMT -8
One of the great successes of the Left is to radicalize people so that they vote in ways that is in the Party's best interest, not their own best interest. That is especially true of blacks.
I also worry that there is a Trump factor on the right regarding this. He's proved himself to be a talker, not a problem-solver. Still, Trump would be better than any Democrat. I was thinking last night who the best Democrat would be to run in 2024. The name I came up with was Starbucks' Howard Schultz.
He's generally untainted by the noxious policies of the Left but he could be relied upon to be very obedient to those same core elements. Still, unlike the fraud, Obama, and many other career politicians, this guy has actually run a business.
That's not me endorsing him over Trump. It's just, honest to god, I can't think of a Democrat other than him who isn't a foaming-at-the-mouth raving lunatic.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 30, 2022 19:14:54 GMT -8
More data proving we are being ruled by fools and idiots. I should also add criminals to that list. Worse market since 1970 While f*@k wit Biden and his team are responsible for much, maybe most, of this debacle, a lot of the responsibility must be laid at the feet of the Federal Reserve. I hold Allan Greenspan particularly responsible. He started this crap with him holding interest rates so low that borrowers were actually being paid to take out loans. "How is that possible?" you might ask. Well, inflation was higher than the interest rates so every dollar being paid back was less valuable than when it was borrowed. Of course, the large corporations and wealthy were the biggest gainers from this rubbish. Little guys also thought that it was good for them until the crash of 2008 when assets fell like a rock. And once again, the fools idiots and criminals in charge arranged things so that big-moneyed interests made a fortune when the little guys got crushed. After having seen the below video, I need to ease up on Greenspan. He was an honest genius compared to this lying asshole Powell. Fewer vaccines = higher inflation
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 30, 2022 20:29:24 GMT -8
I can't stand it. More proof that the West is being ruled by fools, idiots and criminals. Climate change = Rape
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 30, 2022 20:33:48 GMT -8
I'm not smart enough to take advantage of tricks like that. All I know is that bad things are going to happen when you spend more money than you take in. Calvin Coolidge was apparently the last to president to lower the deficit (1929). Both parties since then have been reckless, basically borrowing or printing money in order to try to buy votes.
We're living in a big Ponzi scheme, although I don't know the dictionary-definition of just what this scheme is. And, Jesus, I hate to be in the position of defending Biden, but they've all had a hand in it. But obviously the spending and anti-energy policies of Biden was just more than the current markets could bear and provided somewhat of a tipping point.
People need to understand that there are consequences to voting Democrats into office.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 30, 2022 20:37:00 GMT -8
As one commenter said about the climate thing: "No one with two functional brain cells believes this." Another fellow writes:
It's a woman, of course, spouting this nonsense.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 1, 2022 12:06:06 GMT -8
Believe me, there are lots of people smart enough, not only to take advantage of such tricks, but smart enough to arrange for conditions to be brought about in which such tricks can be played and profited from.
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