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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2019 7:36:24 GMT -8
This is a good thing or else I would not have motivation to maintain the high standards of Brickview Acres.
Glad you think the smoke tree (bush?) will work there. I’ll therefore dig out some of the remains of that stump, put in some good soil, and plant one of the smoke trees out of the pot that it is in now.
That will be the name of my first novel. It is a pretty good view, isn’t it. Really, that is a killer hill. Whatever your time up it, you’re a real trooper for even attempting it. I took my sister out hiking with me one time. I choose that path — not to show off but because of the view. I thought the view was more than enough payoff for the steepness of the trail. But she just complained. She didn’t quite see the artfulness in the verticality of it all.
Oh, you’ve lived a sheltered life. Wait….we’re talking mountains. My mind wandered there a bit. Never mind.
Will do. I had no idea that in this film about Genesis there would be a geology test. Yikes. I hope I’m ready for it. Just as a forerunner, I don’t believe fossils found high in the mountains were put there by Noah’s flood.
I had not heard of the Mastodon bone being found. I do hope one day Jurassic Park can come alive and we can clone of of those.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2019 7:57:01 GMT -8
I watched a little but of that Genesis video. I’m definitely not the market for this stuff. And if these kinds of videos are meant to bring one to the religion, for me they do nothing but push away, if only because I think the arguments made (and I’ve seen this type before) are dishonest.
I don’t want to be walked into a cult and have to believe gibberish. That’s just not me. If you have some long-term plan of converting or "saving" me, please stop.
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Post by lynda on Aug 2, 2019 12:49:41 GMT -8
I watched a little but of that Genesis video. I’m definitely not the market for this stuff. And if these kinds of videos are meant to bring one to the religion, for me they do nothing but push away, if only because I think the arguments made (and I’ve seen this type before) are dishonest. I don’t want to be walked into a cult and have to believe gibberish. That’s just not me. If you have some long-term plan of converting or "saving" me, please stop. Ha! Judging from your comments, I know for sure you actually tried to watch the video. I told you it was cheesy, but I thought the actual information that could be gleaned from between the cheese slices would be interesting fodder for discussion. Questions such as: even though they found massive beds of dinosaur fossils which may indicate a congregation of animals seeking high ground as flood waters accumulated, there have been no similar discoveries of human bones? I wonder if you got to the parts of the video where the guys are actually out in the field looking at rock layers and volcanoes? I have no plans for saving you, Brad. That's not my job. But I'm open for sharing ideas and discussing my beliefs, in spite of my obvious human frailties. You have given the impression of being genuinely interested in subjects along the lines of creation and christianity, so I'd hoped we could discuss the point of view presented (hold the cheese). |
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Post by timothylane on Aug 2, 2019 14:21:12 GMT -8
Remember, some mountains started to rise up recently enough (a hundred million years ago, say) that one could find ancient fossils there. Note that every fossil of sea creatures has been found on land. Incidentally, if all these animals were alive together (as the young Earth theory demands), then why do we never find (e.g.) trilobyte, ichthyosaur, and whale fossils together?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2019 15:55:48 GMT -8
Fair enough, Gibbnonymous.
I’m just not a friend to the kind of cult-like thinking that has people believing The Great Flood is what caused the stratum in the Grand Canyon. From the get-go, these guys were not honest. No rational person would dispute that there are, and often have been, catastrophic geological occurrences such as Mt. St. Helens (or the floods that created the Grand Coulee in Washington). But they dishonestly present the Mt. St. Helens eruption as tricky evidence that says "A geological formation might look like it took a long time to form, but it took just a moment." Do they ever present any evidence that geological features are also the result of long processes over vast amounts of time?
It takes an enormous heap of dishonesty and delusion to blot out a bazillion credible (this is not “climate change” or Darwinism) data points that show the earth is vastly old. And these are the kinds of things that really sour me on religion. I have more respect for myself than to join a bunch of kooks like this.
I watched about 10 minutes of the start and just bailed. I’ve seen garbage like this before. I had no desire to watch more of it.
Granted, as Timothy mentioned, there are credible reasons to believe that there have been great floods, such as the possible flooding of the Black Sea. I don’t know what the latest opinions are on that, but from what I’ve read, it seems quite plausible, especially knowing without a doubt that the breakage of an ice dam (perhaps more than once….I’ve have to check my facts) caused large areas of Eastern Washington to be scoured by floodwaters.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2019 16:04:52 GMT -8
You can actually find above-ground clear examples of the folding of the ocean floor that gets pushed up into a mountain range. It’s unambiguous. Perhaps the exact time it took for this uplifting to occur is not so readily apparent. But it is apparent that folding of the crust (and ocean floor) happens. This is a decent enough example:  And one can reasonably surmising that you couldn’t get folding (let alone metamorphic rock) unless there were vast pressures and temperatures involved that happen over time. One huge big-ass flood would just leave a jumble (as, indeed, is the evidence for floods which do indeed occur). |
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Post by timothylane on Aug 2, 2019 16:45:44 GMT -8
If you want a real natural disaster (aside from meteor strikes or other outside forces), consider that most of Yellowstone Park is a giant volcanic caldera. And no one knows when it will blow up again, though they do know that the results of a full explosion (such as has happened at least twice, over a million years ago) would be disastrous. For that matter, I read once that the two volcanoes likely to explode are Vesuvius -- and Rainier. Of course, we hear in the middle of the Mississippi basin have to consider the possibilities of the New Madrid fault. The huge earthquakes in 1811-2, I understand, rang bells in New York. But there was a limited amount of damage they could do then. Not so, now.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 2, 2019 19:57:07 GMT -8
Yes, I’ve heard about the giant volcanic possibilities of Yellowstone.
Rainier is a large mountain with massive glaciers. The danger isn’t in the eruption, per se. It’s when those glaciers melt rapidly. The flow of mud-slush-rock could wipe out significant parts of Tacoma and the surrounding area.
But the ash (not the mudflows) from Mt. St. Helens, for the most part, was mostly just an annoyance. There were all kinds of disaster predictions about the ash from the same Chicken Littles, that it would poison everything. (CO2 is now listed as a “poison”.) But, guess what? Ash is actually a pretty good fertilizers. It’s just not good for carburetors.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 2, 2019 20:03:52 GMT -8
Yes, volcanic ash and lava make for very fertile ground once they're cooled and (in the case of the lava) broken up into dirt. That's one reason farmers will raise crops on the slopes of a mountain that remains an active volcano.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 7, 2019 9:35:23 GMT -8
Astonishing Uses of Volcanic Ash You Could Never Have Guessed1) Rejuvenate the skin 2) Building material – "Hardened volcanic ash makes a lightweight, but strong building material. It is fire-resistant, non-toxic, and strong. The ancient Romans used volcanic ash to make concrete walls and buildings." 3) Abrasive material for cleaning and polishing 4) Good for various medical uses including constipation 5) Fertilizer — "The volcanic ash provides the surrounding soil with essential nutrients. It contains minerals that are beneficial to plants. The fine ash breaks down quickly to mix with the soil. It proves to be a good fertilizer for the crops. A number of crops are grown on volcanic ash soils as its properties are favorable for the growth of plants. A combination of volcanic ash soil, ample rainfall, warm summers, and light winters produce abundant crops." There you have it. Proof once again you can't trust the environmental wackos on the Left.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 7, 2019 10:51:24 GMT -8
This and some of the other points you mentioned are covered by Durant in his "Caesar and Christ." Apparently, volcanic ash was one of the secrets of the durability of Roman concrete. I know someone who is in quality control and he maintains that nobody has improved upon the Roman concrete made 1,600- 2,200 years ago. And when you think of the Pantheon, which is made of concrete, it is hard to disagree.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 7, 2019 13:15:04 GMT -8
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Post by timothylane on Aug 7, 2019 13:59:07 GMT -8
In Greece we saw Agamemnon's tomb, which is a large domed building somewhat like that. My mother commented on the buzzing sound we heard while in there, presumably an auditory effect from its shape. (Whose tomb, if anyone's, this really was is unknown. Indeed, a check on wikipedia gave no indication that any of the tombs was associated with the king, though I'm sure my parents had a reason for calling it that.) And it's still around, and looked damage as of when we saw it, probably in 1962 when we did a major Peloponnesian tour.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 7, 2019 19:42:52 GMT -8
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Post by timothylane on Aug 7, 2019 19:53:26 GMT -8
I don't know if it's the one we saw, but it matches what I can recall of it, particularly the shape. And of course Atreus was the father of Agamemnon (and Menelaus). (The story of Atreus and Thyestes, which continued through 3 generations and ended after Orestes killed Clytemnestra and Aegisthus, is a classic Greek mythic tale of cycles of revenge.)
I was hoping you'd find a photo. My father probably shot at least one, but that would have disappeared decades ago.
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Post by lynda on Aug 8, 2019 16:02:51 GMT -8
I would like to sing in there!
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Post by timothylane on Aug 8, 2019 16:25:33 GMT -8
The acoustics no doubt would be interesting. I recall that there was some sort of buzzing noise when we visited the tomb (or whatever it was).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 19, 2020 8:23:38 GMT -8
One positive of having some time off (although I’m still at duty stations, manning the desk and phone) is that it’s let me get my garden in shape.
It’s looking pretty good. I’ve planted a few things here and there, cleaned up, mulched, and just all-around tidied up. I’m pooped from all the work I did yesterday.
The garden is still a little spotty due to my hodge-podge, seat-of-the-pants design aesthetic. I need to formalize things a bit. But stuff will fill in and look good once everything starts really growing again.
And yesterday was such a glorious day on the Left Coast to be outside doing something. And we’re expecting a rather balmy 59 today. You may not have any idea just how warm that is considered to be, especially after a very wet (although quite mild) winter and spring. But we’re ready for some temperatures in the high 50’s. And dare I say, the low 60’s are in sight.
I hope to plant some cucumbers again this year, but I’m not sure where. Supposedly some friends/clients (for whom I printed a dahlia book) are going to drop by a few dozen dahlia bulbs come April. I do have a place picked out for them. I’ll see if they follow through.
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Post by timothylane on Mar 19, 2020 8:38:38 GMT -8
I trust you'll have some nice photos of it soon.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Mar 19, 2020 8:59:21 GMT -8
Thanks for asking! The sun will be out today in full force one the cloud layer burns off. I know I have a couple parts of the garden that are photo-worthy. I'll get to it.
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