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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 10, 2022 7:24:03 GMT -8
I'm nearing the halfway point of Listening Woman (going slow, interspersed with watching hockey games and The Ipcress File). Although it's not yet a roller-coaster ride of a plot, it continues to be heads-and-tails over his first novel. We have Navajo life thoroughly woven into the story. But there is a story and characters who have at least some bare sketched-out personality.
I can see a potential big crash coming at the end. Hillerman is going to try to connect a whole lot of story threads and I'm not sure he can do that without it being rushed and artificial...which was exactly the problem with his first book. The idea of some spy operation in the desert was never hinted at and it was just what I call a spaghetti-plot element. It was thrown at the wall to see if it would stick.
But so far Hillerman in this third book is weaving a good and subtle mystery. If he can keep all these balls in the air and make it work out at the end, that will be something.
And through four episodes, The Ipcress File continues to impress. None of the plot looks familiar from the Michael Caine movies so I'm pretty sure if you've seen the movies, you can watch this series without knowing what's going to happen. Or perhaps I've just forgotten the plot of the movies.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 11, 2022 14:19:40 GMT -8
The Ipcress File fell completely and utterly of the cliff in the fifth episode. I've lost interest.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 13, 2022 8:30:31 GMT -8
I finished Listening Woman, which is the third book in the Leaphorn/Chee series. This one features Leaphorn. I've read #1, #3, and #4. And I think Listening Woman (the third) is the best so far. Granted, Hillerman does like to escalate his violence as a plot element. But that is fairly typical. Was he able to bring these disparate plot elements together into an ending? Well, it was okay and better than I thought it would be. I kept thinking there was a Hardy Boys element to this story. There's a big dog. A mysterious cave. Dynamite. And that's not a bad thing. The plot was pretty much non-existent in the first book and was cliché-ridden in the fourth. But this one was a decent pulp-fiction type of plot. I'm canceling my AMC+ subscription because I've looked and looked and can't find anything else I want to watch. But I did stumble upon Spy City. The production values aren't the best, but through two episodes, it's kept my attention. I should be able to finish this one out before my subscription expires in early December. Synopsis: One reviewer snarkily asks: Oh, he's not that bad of an actor. But, yes, he has big hair. It looks like the kind of plastic hair you can snap on and off a Ken doll.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 14, 2022 7:31:07 GMT -8
Now this review certainly belongs here. I'm about 10% into The Dark Wind. This is book five of what I see is now called the Leaphorn, Chee & Manuelito series, although I haven't run into Manuelito yet. I'm assuming that's a later book. This one features Joe Chee, as did the previous book with the so-so plot (a hitman ups the body count, which is about the extent of the plot). But I liked book # 4 otherwise. And this one starts well – with a body, of course. And, yes, the body count soon rises. Think of the great murder mysteries that have just one mysterious death. Well, this isn't going to be one of them. Within the first few pages, the body count is up to four. Even so, it all works so far. There are, again, several things on the plate of a tribal policeman (as there was for Leaphorn in book three). There's an unexplained body that has turned up. Someone is vandalizing a windmill that is on Hopi land (that was ceded from the Navajos). There was a burglary at Burnt Water Trading Post. There's the bootlegger, Priscilla Bisti. And witchcraft gossip over at Black Mesa. But what one presumes will monopolize Chee's time is the plane crash of what appears to be a drug-drop gone wrong. He was first on the scene because it happened near where Chee was already staking out the Hopi windmill. And in comes the FBI and we are off to the races with a story.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 18, 2022 8:30:38 GMT -8
I finished the series, Spy City, which you can find on AMC+. It actually was okay. But be forewarned: If you have been a spy or know about spying, it's almost laughable at times how amateurish these guys are (on all sides, French, English, American, Russian). I don't think they bothered to have any kind of technical consultant. They just winged it. By aside from that, for a spy flick, it was okay. I agree that the main character isn't the greatest actor in the world. But he is surrounded by a decent enough cast so that this doesn't really become an issue. I need Artler to see this because, even after seeing the end, I've got questions about the main plot element of this. The series is set in Berlin in 1960 and 61...just before the Berlin Wall went up. Someone called this series "unconvincing, but stylish." Yeah, it is sorta that. Don't ask for people to act in mostly rational ways and you'll be fine. I was laughing through one of the final scenes where Fielding Scott and his cat-burglar assistant break into the spy archives building in the dead of night. There is ample light in order to see where they are going...and yet one of the idiots is waving around a rather bright flashlight. I've never been to spy school, but I'm pretty sure that stealth when burglarizing the spy archives is the norm.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 23, 2022 7:43:14 GMT -8
I'm 40% into The Dark Wind novel (#5 in the series) by Tony Hillerman. As much as I was appalled by his lack of writing skill in the first novel, he has begun to hone his writing style into something smoother, more logical, and a little more compelling. No, the plot is not a roller coaster ride. But this is a Navajo tail told in Navajo time. And I'm okay with that. I just ask that things make some sense and that "plodding" is not mistaken for being richly methodical. Jim Chee little resembles the Jim Chee in the HBO Series. Rather than being a fluffy preppy boy made foreign to his own culture by being with whites for too long, this Jim Chee in the novel takes us along as he rides the fine line between returning to his roots and fulfilling the necessities of the job. It may be all well and good for some Navajo to look down at Chee because his police work (probably mostly learned from the white world) makes him act white. But there's no mistaking that there are some very bad Navajo out there (and some bad white outsiders) who need to be dealt with. Call it "white" or whatever, but dealing with criminals tends to draw one into the same tried-and-true techniques...whether learned from the white world or not. I give Hillerman credit for (in this one) not over-glamorizing the Navajo world. It's obviously a slow, superstitious, poor, and often mean place despite the superficial trappings of The Gentlemanly Harmless Native. It's even arguable that Chee is one of the few honorable characters in the novels because, unlike those who live on dirt floors and pontificate about how pure they are, Chee actively has to make the choice of maintaining his traditions...even while necessarily doing a job that can't help but draw him out of a rather limited parochial view. That's all probably way too much navel-gazing for this novel. But it's at least not (thus for) the stereotypical "woke" trash one finds all too often these days.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 29, 2022 8:18:11 GMT -8
I finished The Dark Wind, #5 in the Leaphorn and Chee series. It flowed fairly smoothly, and ended sort of abruptly. But the ending was by no means bad. I just expected a wrap-up chapter or something past where it did end.
The basic structure is built around a drug drop-off in the desert that goes wrong. There are some peripheral plot points that may or may not intersect with this main one. And if you watched the HBO series, it's not a spoiler to say that there is a dirty DEA agent involved. From what I remember, this is the one element that was plucked from this book and inserted into the menagerie of plot elements that made up the series.
After 4 books and the series, am I starting to think like a Navajo? Am I starting to appreciate their culture? Honestly, not really, although I don't despise their culture. It sort of is what it is. They are sort of the Freman in the desert of their own Dune-like world. They are a bit odd and eccentric and their culture probably wouldn't work well anywhere else.
Although the writing style of Hillerman is by no means top-notch, it's certainly competent and serviceable. And he saves us (and his idiot daughter apparently does not who continues the series after his death) from any "woke" elements. In fact, it's refreshing to have a short description on how, to Chee, it is so bloody obvious that a Navajo and Hopi look completely different. But then Chee reminded himself that back in his college days, his girlfriend reminded him that even after years he could not distinguish a Swede from a Jew from an Italian, etc. So Chee admits that it's not necessarily a racist thing for whites to say that Indians "all look alike" because to the Indians, the whites do all look alike.
The online library didn't have book 6. In fact, the next book available is #11, Sacred Clowns. I've checked it out and will give it a try.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 1, 2022 7:45:47 GMT -8
In #11 Sacred Clowns, Chee is working directly under Lieutenant Leaphorn. Despite that this is book #11, it still does sound as if their getting together is somewhat of a first-timer. Leaphorn appears to be a desk-bound commander in some new setup. Hillerman writes:
And this had apparently been a one-man operation until Chee was assigned to Leaphorn. Leaphorn first assigns him some grunt work of tracking down some councilman's kid ("the Kanitewa boy") who has left his boarding school. That doesn't go well. In the midst of tracking him down in and around a Pueblo ceremony, another murder occurs (of an accountant named Sayesva), vaguely similar to a murder of a teacher (Dorsey, a shop teacher at Thoreau) a few months back.
And there's been a specifically ugly and tragic killing of an old man (Mr. Todachene) via hit-and-run. Leaphorn says, "I haven't been able to sell that yet. But the way the chief feels, if you solve this hit-and-run problem, making sergeant is a dead cinch."
But Chee is reminded once again that the murder of Sayesva is strictly the business of the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the FBI even though Chee sees a possible connection between the murder of the school teacher and of Sayesva (both hit on the back of the head, both possibly connected in some way to the Pueblo rituals).
And that's basically the setup of the book.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 8, 2022 7:12:21 GMT -8
I wouldn't say that I find all that much that is quotable in the Hillerman novels. But this bit from #11 Sacred Clowns I thought was pretty good:
A koshar is, I think, a religious subdivision of Pueblo society and/or a specific religious functionary (like a Shaman).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 11, 2022 9:04:01 GMT -8
I'm a little more than halfway into Sacred Clowns. The writing style is richer and more interesting than Hillerman's previous efforts (that I've read).
We are getting some variety, which is of some help in regards to interest. We are (now) following both Chee and Leaphorn as they both follow different lines of inquiry.
Leaphorn still looks a bit askance at Chee. Chee has a reputation for not playing by the rules. But Leaphorn appreciates his intelligence. And in this two-man operation, he is less concerned about the rigidity of rules than with getting results.
Both have love interests...or potential love interests. Leaphorn is set to take off in a couple days on a trip to China with his academic girlfriend who studies folklore, etc. Leaphorn would be apparently tagging along ostensibly to do some research of his own, but privately he just wants to get closer to this woman.
Chee is head-over-heals in love with an ambulance-chaser (lawyer). But he has a problem. Her ancestry is muddy because of some sad events in Navajo history were families were separated, etc. They have very broad incest rules. So if she is from a clan directly connected to his own mother or father, that would be taboo. These chicks are side interests and, thankfully, Hillerman isn't knocking us over the head with them.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 17, 2022 13:40:41 GMT -8
I finished Sacred Clowns. I liked it and can recommend it. But it had two obvious flaws. One was summed up by one Amazon reviewer as "Dog Pile on Chee!" And I couldn't agree more. Chee was working hard and yet he seemed to be treated by the author as a ne'er-do-well. There was a disconnect there.
Second, the plot got a little convoluted and simply having Leaphorn spell it all out in the end in two pages is not a good substitute for living-out and writing the plot in the book. This is by no means a fault unique to Hillerman.
And a small spoiler here, but this one plot element is worthy of a discussion on its own: One of the deaths in the book (and, of course, there's never just one...body inflation is common in these types of novels) is of a hit-and-run victim. This is solved in the next paragraph so stop if you intend to read the book fresh.
Well, Hillerman has set out the details to make the nearly perfect liberal case for never holding anyone accountable for their crimes. And the Navajo philosophy (as outlined by Hillerman) would seem to come right out of the George Soros bought-and-paid-for district attorneys. No need to do anything like hold outdated Western notions of justice and punishment. The Navajo way is to help the person back into harmony.
And there's something to be said for that...in conjunction with punishment. But Hillerman sets up a near-perfect lilly-white case to make his point: A grandfather, drunk on a rare outing (his birthday), accidentally runs over someone on the way home from his party. He stops but doesn't see anyone.
Later he learns what happens and confesses via a local radio's on-air mic (that is set aside for a certain time and day of the week for the public to make announcements). But nobody knows who the guy is. But Chee gets a few details out of the witnesses and tracks down a likely suspect.
Chee stakes out the house looking for the blue truck with a particular bumper sticker on it that was seen at the radio station. But no truck is to be seen from the road. Meanwhile a child coming home from school stops by Chee's truck and starts up a conversation. The child, Chee notes, is obviously a product of fetal alcohol syndrome and now he lives with his grandfather who, as the boy describes things, is his hero. They get along well. The grandfather goes to great lengths to take very good care of this special child.
So Chee plays judge and jury and next time he is by the house, he waits for the kid and strikes up another conversation. The boy had previously mentioned his grandfather's blue truck so Chee knows he has the right guy. Chee gives the kid a bumpersticker he has made and tells the kid to tell his father to scrape off the old one completely and put this one on in place of it. (It said something like "World's greatest grandson.")
And, mind you, Chee does all this in front of the girl he loves (the ambulance-chaser) and who he has more or less broken up with. And of course while watching all this transpire in the passenger seat (and getting the back story from Chee), she is instantly, as it were, wet for Chee and all is forgiven. Liberalism, never having to say you're sorry.
Now, mind you, it indeed wouldn't have done any good to throw the old man in jail. And it's likely there are times when some cops do make a judgment call and just go on to spend their time on other cases. But what we don't see is six months later when grandpa (alcoholism must run in the family) runs over some kid on his bicycle. Then where is the merit of Chee's liberalism? But then, the consequences of liberalism are never measured. It's always measured by a "big heart" and "good intentions."
So I thought this part of the plot was rather cheap writing. Still, it was interesting nonetheless.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 18, 2022 8:10:05 GMT -8
I've just started The Fallen Man, book #12 in the Leaphorn/Chee series and the book that immediately follows Sacred Clowns. Coincidentally, it was the earlier book in the series that was available for online loan. Leaphorn has retired from the force and Chee is now a lieutenant. But they remain in contact with each other. Some mountain climbers have just discovered a body high on a mountain and that's as far as I've gotten. To say a little bit more about Sacred Clowns, I do think Hillerman does a better job in this book of getting you in the mindset of a Navajo (or a Hopi, or a Yute, or even a Cheyenne) without hitting you over the head with it. I may not necessarily agree with various cultural practices and beliefs, but Hillerman does paint you a decent picture of the world that they live in on the reservation...especially including the difficulty of walking the line between the strict traditional world and the modern "'white" one. The book even talks about how some traditional ceremonies go on for, say, eleven straight days. But this isn't practical for those who actually have a nine-to-five job. Like it or not, the "white" production/consumer-oriented life has been at least partially adopted by many Indians. So Chee is in agreement with those spiritual functionaries who may accommodate this by, say, spreading some ceremony over two consecutive weekends instead of trying to block out eleven straight days. And this is the line the Chee walks. He wants to be traditional and yet he himself, no matter his efforts, is ever particularly pleasing to, or accepted by, the old hard-line establishment of traditionalists who still exist, however small the numbers. And the question lingers: Can one adopt bits of modern life here and there as a pragmatic issue while still holding true to the basics of something? The answer is "Probably not." But you will come out the other end with something new and different and that maybe people want. I'm not sure to what extent Hillerman will continue to explore this. But I sort of side with the old-timers. I don't think you can make a case for being "a little pregnant" and just picking and choosing from the smorgasbord of traditional ways and white man ways. But we now have Navajo casinos and those choices have indeed been made. And I honestly don't know what state that leaves anyone in. A financially richer one, for sure. But are they still walking in beauty?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 26, 2022 8:34:07 GMT -8
I'm about halfway into The Fallen Man. The plot revolves around a body that was found on a ledge of a sacred mountain that the white people like to climb.
I can somewhat understand the Navajho disdain for the idiot outdoorsman liberal who desecrates their mountain, and all for little more than a stupid thrill. No. No. Honest. I'm not becoming sympathetic to the Navajo, per se. But you can start to see at least some things from their perspective. It's like the chance camaraderie I have with Muslims: I don't want the world run by a homosexual caliphate either.
But that's not to group the Navajo in with these dogs of society. One of the cops (Chee, I think) makes an interesting distinction. A Navajo (or Hopi, or Yute) will kill because he's liquored up and/or because of lust. But only the white man kills for money.
I don't know it that's true. But I'm guessing there's an element of truth there, at least when comparing the two cultures.
Leaphorn, now retired, has been hired by the family of the man who was found dead on a ledge high up on the sacred mountain. Leaphorn is fairly savvy to what they likely want. They just want to find a way to get the dead man's ranch back because there are valuable mineral deposits on it. But given how obvious this explanation is, you can expect there is perhaps something else going on.
But the lawyers met Leaphorn's demand of a twenty-week retainer ($20,000), non-refundable, so he's on the case...a case he initially handled ten years earlier or so. So he has his own reasons for wanting to tie-up this loose end.
Chee is spending some of his time chasing cattle rustlers. It's somewhat of a pointless task because the maximum penalty is a usually $100 fine (if that) or, at most, six months in jail. But his boss has tasked him with looking into it so he's giving it his all.
I don't know what happened to Leaphorn's love interest from the previous book. She's been completely written out of the picture in this following book. But Chee is still involved with the ambulance-chaser. They are officially engaged. The argument now is that Chee wants to do a traditional Navajo wedding but her mother wants the standard big-church and all the fixin's white wedding. The author drums up some other conflict between them regarding her ex boss who is now involved in what is called "the fallen man" case (the guy they found on the ledge high up on the sacred mountain). But writing about relationships doesn't seem to be Hillerman's forte.
A fairly pedestrian plot so far, but that is actually it's strength. It's not over-the-top.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 27, 2022 6:48:07 GMT -8
I finished The Fallen Man. And this is where I mention there are some spoilers coming. But I'm of the mind that it doesn't matter because you can't spoil something that was never good to begin with.
Read this book for the ambiance of the characters and setting. I certainly enjoyed that aspect of it. But I still don't understand the plot. I don't understand the reason for Hal's initial disappearance. Or did he disappear? I admit, I found the plot hard to follow and even harder for it all to make any sense.
In the end, we can agree with the Navajo's disdain for the FBI. The entire ending of this story involves both Chee and Leaphorn basically falsifying evidence, ignoring evidence, and/or making up stories out of whole cloth. And it's all justified in order to keep a ranch out of the hands of Big Mining.
And I don't blame a little jerry-rigging of justice to this cause. At the end of the story, the killer was dead so why make things worse by having the ranch fall into the hands of Big Mining? But the plot itself is thin as are many of the characters. Chee's relationship with his fiance is stilted and artificial. The dialogue (and internal thoughts) between Chee and Leaphorn also seem stilted and artificial.
I think the only relationship that had any realism to it was between Chee and his good-looking junior officer, Bernadette Manuelito. And there are indications that the relationship between Chee and his ambulance-chasing status-loving fiance are on the outs. And good riddance to her. I do give Hillerman some credit for writing her somewhat as a c-word, although her character is thin and unrealistic.
But Bernadette is a real Navajo, unlike the ambulance-chasing fiance who is half Navajo and, at best, uses that for affirmative-action, politically-correct advantage. She's a cunt, Chee. Drop her like a wet potato. Go for the pretty young real Navajo.
And there you go. They have me thinking like a Navajo with some disdain for the "white" world. But the disdain isn't for the color of the skin. It's for these progressive types who should just go to hell and leave Chee and the rest of us alone.
But it's clear the Navajo world is no paradise. It would seem to share all the regular human weaknesses while doing so in poverty or near poverty. Better to be a sinner and at least have a little money.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 1, 2023 9:09:20 GMT -8
I'm about one-quarter way in book seventeen of the series, Skeleton Man. I think Jim Chee is in this one. But he's only been talked about so far, particularly in regards to his engagement to Bernadette Manuelito. So (minor spoiler) he apparently did dump the ambulance-chaser as seemed to be the shaky state-of-affairs at the end of book sixteen, The Fallen Man. Good riddance. Joe Leaphorn is still somewhat fresh in retirement but he is feeling the boredom setting in. Luckily one of his old police friends, Cowboy Dashee, calls him in to pick his brain about a robbery that includes a diamond. There's a murder involved as well so the Feds are looking into it too. The man they are holding for the robbery/murder is Dashee's cousin, Billy Tuve. But the cousin said that the diamond he was trying to pawn wasn't from the robbery in Zuni, that he had had it a long time. He claims that an old shaman down in the Grand Canyon gave it to him years ago. Oh, and by the way, the story involves a true event that occurred in 1956 when a DC-7 and a Super Constellation collide over the Grand Canyon. So Leaphorn gets on the trail, starting with consulting the old trading store coot, McGinniss – who is reportedly dead or missing. And the hunt is on.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 6, 2023 8:22:28 GMT -8
Skeleton Man is a little shorter than the rest of the books I've read. And that's fine. Except that about ¾ into this one, the writing has turned dull. It happens at the point where several parties go into the Grand Canyon looking for something and it's sort of a Three's Company bunch of coincidences that happen.
But the main thing is that Hillerman stops telling a story and instead – wham – changes the style from a somewhat interesting narrative to an extended hearing of what is going on inside of each participant's head as they stumble through the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
And, of course (and out of nowhere), Chee's girlfriend (and fellow cop) tags along and doesn't do as she is told and is a complete and total MacGuffin in terms of the story. She's totally superfluous. Another guy breaks his ankle. There's a guy there with a gun. And a mysterious woman. And at this point it's such a clusterfuck, we really don't care who did what or who will do what to whom. It's as if he tired of the story and was just phoning it in.
Thankfully, there isn't much to go. Hillerman's endings are never his strong suit but we'll see if this tiring diversion into the bottom of the Grand Canyon leads to anything.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 6, 2023 21:32:08 GMT -8
I finished Skeleton Man. And the logical question is, "Brad, if you keep complaining about these books, why in the world do you keep reading them?"
Well...I may be near the end of my desire to read more, just because. But it didn't help that I think Skeleton Man was terrible in its last ¼ of the book. I almost wonder if his daughter (or someone) ghost wrote the ending chapters. It was just so phoned-in, dull, and often facile.
But it was a good story up until they entered the Grand Canyon looking for some diamonds and bones. But because of that last quarter of the book, this is not one that I can recommend.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 8, 2023 16:33:42 GMT -8
Maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment, but I just started Coyote Waits, #10 in the Leaphorn and Chee novels. This one has pretty good reviews though so I'm hopeful it's above average. I'm only a few pages into it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 13, 2023 14:58:23 GMT -8
I'm about 60% through Coyote Waits. What strikes me is the general formula that Hillerman has. And this book is chock full of that formula.
Still, it's a good mystery that he has going thus far. Chee and Leaphorn are not (in this book) working together. They are in different departments or precincts but both are pursuing separate (and unauthorized or informal) investigations.
But the basic shtick is: Someone is murdered. This therefore becomes an FBI case. There are loose ends that the FBI doesn't care about. The local Navajos (including the cops) have (or dig up) some local knowledge not known to the FBI. More crap happens which complicates what had looked like a simple case. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 18, 2023 12:23:35 GMT -8
I finished Coyote Waits. Overall, it was pretty decent. I'm still not particularly enamored with his endings. But this was better than his average. There is a clear warning about alcohol use which is widely believed to have caused great destruction among the Indians...and the whites as well. Now it's on to Finding Moon. But can I stand another Cheer/Leaphorn novel? An Amazon reviewer writes: So this book is a departure. And I'm not sure that I want to read another Leophorn/Chee novel. I think Hillerman has squeezed about all that he can out of those characters. But who knows?
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