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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 30, 2023 22:21:06 GMT -8
I previously mentioned that I am reading The Cambridge Modern History Collection, which covers European History (and I don't know what else because I am only in the second volume) from about AD 1500 to the present. As this collection was planned by Lord Acton (he of "power corrupts" fame) and was published from AD 1902, "the present" is over one hundred years ago. That fact does not subtract from the excellent quality of what I have read so far. I have reached chapters about John Calvin, his intentions and influence. (If you do not know who Calvin is, I suggest you either, 1) begin to educate yourself by reading some blurbs on him in the Encyclopedia Britannica, or another such book, or 2) go back to sleep. The author of the particular chapter I am reading states: Add the words "of Progressivism" after the word Church and one could reasonably argue that this is what leftists have always believed they must do. After listing out some of the mechanics of Calvin's system, the author then writes: Is that any difference from how the left views those who dissent? Dissenters are both legally and morally disobedient. he then writes: And how else do the progressives view those who disagree with them, but as heretics? Finally, he writes: Does that sound familiar? Now you understand why the Jacobins, Bolsheviks, CCP, Marxists and leftists of all stripes, who attain power, are so vicious and make even tyrants of the past, seem tame by comparison. The Bolsheviks made the Tsar look like a pussy cat. The left is, and preaches, religion.
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Post by artraveler on Dec 31, 2023 8:20:01 GMT -8
John Calvin Calvin and Knox, Genevia and Scotland. Between the two of them many lives were changed, often for the worse. Both are symbols of what happens when religion is allowed to run government. We see evidence of the same types of stridentness in Iran. Is it any wonder that the separatist who left England in the 1620s-40s so quickly discarded the moral strictures imposed by the preachers. That said, we also should examine the Great Aweaking and how the voices of a few, especially Johnthan Edwards shaped the cause for independence from England and the ultimate creation of the Constitution. Edwards is most often quoted for his famos sermon, "Sinners in the hands of an angry God". The sermon often quoted but seldom read by the leftists is presented as an example of the moral and ethical strictness of the New England religious elite. However, The depts of the sermon present a loving and caring diety. It is the first step to NE Transendentalism and a more useful religious structure.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 31, 2023 18:33:23 GMT -8
Fundamentalist religions of any stripe are a pain in the ass. And very few have acknowledged that Progressivism is a fundamentalist religion. Sometimes being so far ahead of the curve just sucks.
This is a difficult and deep subject: The proper roles of church and state. But 90% of the conversation out there about is either dishonest or completely uninformed.
I think the basic lay of the ground is this: There is an active and forceful movement of religious fundamentalist insurgents (Leftists/Progressives) who wish to displace the existing religious/moral structure (broadly speaking: Judaeo-Christianity).
And when we pick nits about the propriety of this mixing of "church" or "state," we miss the point entirely that the insurgents wish precisely to thoroughly mix church and state. As a means of attacked against the existing religious/moral structure, they use the ruse of "the separation of church and state" as a means of attack. This has caused no end of disastrous echo-chambering from idiot Republicans, libertarians, and various talking heads who basically ratify the Leftist attack by pontificating about the proper "separation" that is needed.
No. That's being a useful idiot. One needs to first note exactly what I've said. The Left precisely wants their religion to be infused completely into the state.
As for Calvin, I admit I don't know a lot about him. My general impression is that he's a guy who needed to Lighten up, Francis.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 31, 2023 19:00:19 GMT -8
The writer of the chapters about Calvin has an overall positive view of the man. But he does call him out for the theocracy that Geneva became. As The Cambridge Medieval History had a wonderful explanation of how Christianity was adopted by Constantine, who then set out to unify the various strains within it, so the "The Cambridge Modern History Collection" is excellent in building up how the Catholic Church became so debased and corrupt that virtually all clerics, scholars and religious men outside of Italy, and especially those not in the Curia, believed it must be reformed. We are then introduced to Luther who was the hammer which broke the open the flood gates of Reformation. Of course he exchanged ideas and beliefs with many others in Europe, but Luther was mainly influential in Germany. During the Peasants War that broke out in the first third of the 1500s, Luther sided with the princes and rulers. This tendency to side with the State has been a characteristic of Lutheranism ever since. Apparently, it arose from Luther's reading of the New Testament's invocation to "render unto Caesar those things which are Caesar's, and unto God those things which are God's." Outside of Germany, Switzerland had a very significant influence on the Reformation. The first major figure in this area was Ulrich Zwingli, a Swiss cleric who took theology farther away from the Catholic Church than Luther dared. It would not be too much to consider Zwingli the founder of Reformed theology. Calvin took this further. He formalized it and like Zwingli, was interested in the political as well as the spiritual side of Christianity. Reformed Christianity had a great influence on the spread of democratic ideas across Europe. Calvin was classically educated and formalized a system which had much broader influence than Luther's. Geneva was not part of Switzerland at the time, but was connected to Savoy, i.e. it was French speaking. Because of the political system of the city, it was primed for Calvin's theocracy when this was instituted. We in the English speaking world, don't often think about the French influence on the Reformation, but it was enormous. Lutheranism was only popular in Germany. But Zwingli's Reformed theology spread and mingled with French reformers and from Calvin it spread to Knox, then to the English Puritans, and we all know where they spread it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 31, 2023 20:20:58 GMT -8
Am I wrong to suggest that vital to understanding this is the context? Wasn't Jesus (as in "He who is without sin cast the first stone") basically evading or playing off of those trying to trap him?
Of course God is superior to all institutions made by man. Of course one will inevitably run up against earthly abominations that will make one decide between the morals of God and the machinations of man. And one should choose the former, despite the consequences...if this is how the universe is really constituted. So basically render unto Caesar a big fat zero if Caesar is unworthy. Of course, there would be consequences.
I hadn't heard of Zwingli. It will be interesting to see if there can be a reformation of Protestantism or Catholicism. Both desperately need it.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 31, 2023 20:34:08 GMT -8
You would be correct. I simply chose that phrase to show Luther's view that Christians are admonished to obey their rulers. I should have picked a better quote, but couldn't think of the exact one offhand. I looked it up now. Luther's belief is based on Romans 13:1-6 which reads: Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is not authority except which God has established. The authorities which exist have been established by God. Luther took this as absolute, especially after the destruction and anarchy wrought by the Peasant's War. Better tyrants than anarchy, I guess. Neither had I until I moved to Switzerland when I was twenty-four. He died during a battle at Kappel, a town between Zug and Zurich. I drove through the town a number of times while I lived in Zug. He had a very big influence on the Reformation. Luther stayed very close to Catholic theology, Zwingli, who like Calvin was classically educated and a humanist, cut ties with much of Catholic theology. Believe it or not, one of the big sticking points was the question of Transubstantiation of the Eucharist i.e. the Lord's Supper. Heated arguments, so heated that people were killed for not agreeing with one view or the other, took place about the nature of the Sacraments. The Catholics and Luther claimed that the bread and wine actually changed into the literal blood and body of Christ when taken. Zwingli and others saw the Sacraments as symbolic of Christ's body and blood, i.e. as a memorial. Others such as Calvin split the baby by saying Christ's body was there spiritually. The hairs which religions are willing to split are fine indeed.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Dec 31, 2023 20:43:38 GMT -8
My point is not that you chose a bad quote but that Luther was engaged in bad theology.
I believe you've discussed this before in that it would have been very bad form (if not suicidal) for Paul to tell everyone to buck authority conspicuously. Christians at the time, from my understanding, were teetering on the edge of survival. A call for "truth to power" against the Roman or local authorities would have been condemning people to death or vast hardship.
I see that as a call to stay under the radar, to make no overt waves. But, yes, Catholics, in particular, have used that quote (and others) to justify their power-grab. It is obviously a quite corrupt church at the moment.
There is little doubt that governance by a mob is to be avoided. Imperfect authorities are better than the anarchy of the mob, for sure.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 31, 2023 20:50:37 GMT -8
I know, but it was good you made the point. It made me think of the actual quote which Luther was following. Thus I achieved greater clarity. Some protestant theology has gotten around this by saying that one does not have to submit to Godless rulers who do not follow the Bible. That is a lot of wiggle room.
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Post by kungfuzu on Dec 31, 2023 23:53:58 GMT -8
One thing which seems to be often forgotten is that Christ made clear that his Kingdom was not of this earth. Forgetting this has caused a lot of trouble across the ages.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 1, 2024 9:26:40 GMT -8
From my not inconsiderable studies of spirituality as it relates to the Christian religion, Mr. Flu, you note a key concept.
We endure the slings and arrows of this existence in the path of Christ (bearing our own cross) who endured worse than we will likely ever receive. The world is not inherently evil, for God made it. But man has corrupted it with sin. And in reverse, we can heal it (or part of it) with virtuous conduct, despite the corruption.
So with (one would say) a healthy understanding of the above, one can (and should) live in this world with healthy doses of humility and acceptance knowing that we "see through a glass, darkly." We judge from a higher perspective than the mere slings and arrows of day-to-day existence.
This all may be false. This all may be whistling through the graveyard. But it is my best understanding of the very point of the Christian religion. It's not just an earned ticket to eternity. It is a way to take part in that eternity in the realm we are in now.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 25, 2024 9:53:12 GMT -8
I have completed about 1/3 of the series, which according to my Kindle means I have only another 119 hours and 5 minutes to go before closing the last volume. I don't know if I have mentioned it before, but I am impressed with how the evils of our times are so similar to the evils of Renaissance Italy and Tudor England. Yes, the nature of man does not change, but reading about these particular periods and places brought to mind our sorry situation today. I am presently reading a chapter dealing with how the Scottish Reformation came about as well as how Scotland and England forged connections which resulted in Great Britain. The writer of this chapter is particularly gifted and witty. I liked this quote.
This refers to how people resented Catholic prelates who were less than righteous.
Much of human nature is captured in that sentence.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 28, 2024 8:34:20 GMT -8
The subject came up the other day as to what a "trickle charger" was. I think the guy on To Tell the Truth lied (or didn't know). It makes it difficult to choose the real person when the real person does not actually tell the truth. He had invented some kind of electric car (this was back in 1974). You plugged it into a normal wall outlet. Gene Rayburn asked #1 what a trickle charger was (and #1 turned out to be the inventor). He gave an incorrect answer. According to Wiki: I don't pretend to understand all the ins and outs of this. But that's why those charging stations for Teslas and such have proprietary outlets and typically take an hour or less (not overnight) to charge your battery. They are doing it quick. And we all know that slow charging is easier on the battery but quicker gets it done faster. So anyway, when reading Mr. Flu's progress report on The Cambridge Modern History Collection – presumably about 180 hours to complete the series – I couldn't help thinking that you are "trickle charging" your history. You are reading it at about the rate that history is being produced. And that is not a comment on the speed but the sheer volume. Yes, great quote.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 28, 2024 9:08:07 GMT -8
Some years back, I left a car light on or a door open and the battery ran down. I had to call a neighbor to give me a jump. If I recall correctly, that doesn't work so well on dead batteries.
As result, I bought a trickle charger which I used for some years. It is a slow process, but beats the hell out of getting up in the morning and finding one's car battery is low.
An interesting analogy. I take my time when reading such volumes and even re-read some parts because I want to make sure I understand them or simply because they are so interesting. The Cambridge books are truly tomes, and I love tomes. To look at, to hold, to read. I have a dictionary/reading stand something like the one pictured below. I had it made for me while living in Hongkong. It is made out of Rosewood. A couple of Brad's father's book are resting on it now.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 28, 2024 9:27:31 GMT -8
A very nice stand. A nice way to honor and use your books.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 28, 2024 10:00:46 GMT -8
Speaking of trickle chargers. Well not exactly, but it is a good segue. I have been having some trouble with my car over the last week or so. There was a squeak whenever I turned the engine on. Sometimes the squeak would last for a while, sometimes it would go away after running for a minute or so.
This started during the very cold spell we had a week or two back, so I wondered if the cold had anything to do with it. In any case, it was clear that the squeak originated with some part touching the fan belt. But anyone who knows a little about cars understands that the fan belt spins the air conditioner pulley, idler pulley, alternator, power steering, fan, camshaft pulley and belt tensioner when the engine is turned on. If they don't spin you have an obvious problem.
The problem with a small or developing problem in this area is that it is difficult to pin point which pulley/wheel is malfunctioning. Nothing is so bad as to warrant a warning light and I am not even sure such a light exists for some of the problems that can arise from such things. As a result, I continued to drive and listen very carefully as I drove. I should probably say that I have been driving the car for 24 years and have done extensive work on it myself, so I am very sensitive to any new sound or difference in handling which might appear.
In any case, when returning from our Saturday bowling, the car started humming and rumbling. By the time we got home, I could smell rubber. I opened the hood and saw a few sparks flying out from the back of the idler pulley. At last, I knew what was wrong. The ball bearing of that piece had finally given out.
I could have changed the thing myself, but I simply didn't what to do it. I guess I age is catching up to me, or maybe the wet cold that we have been having over the last four or five days. Anyway, I went to the local Midas and they looked at it and confirmed my diagnosis. It fact, not only had the ball bearing gone bad, but part of the mount on which the idler pulley rests had also be sheared slightly.
They ordered ordered the new pulley twice and both times the parts shop sent the wrong one. Luckily, I had checked on the computer before going to the shop and found that the local AutoZone had one in stock. So a friend of Mdm. Flu came and drove me to AutoZone where I bought the pulley for $18. I then took it back and Midas put it on for me. This all took over three hours, and got done just before Midas closed at 4 pm.
Why is this of note? This Monday, we are supposed to drive out to DFW airport to meet friends who we have not seen in about twenty years. They are flying in late tonight and leaving tomorrow night. Had the car been sitting in the garage over the weekend, it would have been difficult to meet our friends. $100 for taxis or mini buses to and from the airport would be hard to swallow. But that on top of automobile repair costs of possibly several hundred dollars, would have been a killer.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 28, 2024 12:54:54 GMT -8
I'm glad the stars aligned for your auto fix. Always a pain when something breaks. Glad it wasn't too expensive.
Have a nice visit with your friends.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 28, 2024 21:15:10 GMT -8
Thanks. Unfortunately, what I had done is a temporary fix and I will have to purchase a part to which the AC compressor, alternator and idler pulley all connect. This will put me back about $160 and the labor will probably cost another $200. I might be able to do it myself, but I admit the idea is somewhat daunting. I know Mdm. Flu prefers I don't do it as I am not the youngest anymore.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 29, 2024 8:39:05 GMT -8
Nothing keeps you young like scraping your knuckles on cold, bare metal when the wrench slips.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 3, 2024 17:57:48 GMT -8
From Volume II chapter 19
"Tendencies of European Thought in the Age of Reformation" by Andrew Fairbairn
When the sixteenth century opens, the West, with the exception of Italy, is still medieval, distinguished by a superficial uniformity of mind, thinking ideas which it has ceased to believe and using a learned tongue which it can hardly be said to understand. When the century closes, the West, with the possible exception of Italy, now has fallen as far to the rear as she once stood in the van, has become modern; its States have developed what we may term a personal consciousness and an individual character, have created a vernacular literature and a native art, and have faced new problems which they seek by the help of their new tongues to state and to solve. In Spain, the land of ancestral and undying pride, the humours of a decayed chivalry have been embodied in a tale which moves to laughter without ever provoking to contempt. In Portugal the navigators have created afresh the epic feeling; a new Iliad has been begotten, where swifter ships plough a vaster sea than was known to the ancient Greeks, where braver heroes than Agamemnon do battle against a mightier Troy, while travelers fare to remoter and stranger lands than those visited by Odysseus. In France, where the passion for unity is beginning to work like madness in the brain, Rabelais speaks in him mother tongue the praises of the new learning; Montaigne makes it the vehicle of the new temper and its cultured doubt; Clement Marot uses it to sing the Psalms of the ancient Hebrew race; John Calvin to defend and commend his strenuous faith; while Descartes, born in this century though writing in the next, states his method, defines his problem, and determines the evolution of modern philosophy, in the language of the people as well as in that of the learned. In England the century began in literary poverty, but it ended in the unapproached wealth of the Elizabethan age. In Germany, where the main intellectual interest was theological and confessional, Martin Luther gave the people hymns that often sound like echoes of the Hebrew Psalter; Kepler, listening to the music which nature reserves for the devout ear, discovered the unity which movers through her apparent disorder; and Jakob Boehme, though but a cobbler, had visions of higher mysteries than the proud can see. The Netherlands proved their heroism in their struggle for independence, and their love of knowledge in the tolerant reasonableness that made them a home for the persecuted of all lands. In Scotland William Dunbar, Gawin Douglas, and David Lindsay shed lustre upon the early decades of the century, while in its later years Reformers like Knox and scholars like Andrew Melville trained up a people who had imagination enough to love and achieve liberty without neglecting letters. The thought which at once effected and reflected so immense a revolution can be here traced only in the broadest outlines.
We are met at the threshold by a two-fold difficulty-one which concerns the included thought, and another which concerns the though excluded. The sixteenth century is great in religion rather than philosophy, and stands in remarkable contrast to its immediate successor, which is great in philosophy rather than religion. With the latter, the great modern intellectual systems may be said to begin; and to it belong such names as Bacon and Descartes, Hobbes and Locke, Spinoza and Leibnitz, Gassendi and Malebranche. But without the earlier century the later would have been without its problems and therefore without its thinkers. The preeminence of the one in religion involved the preeminence of the other in thought; for what exercises the spirit tends to emancipate speculation and raises issues that reason must discuss and resolve before it can be at peace with itself and its world.
I will make two points. 1) The above excerpt was beautifully and lucidly written. I cannot recall a modern historian who writes so well. Once again, to be a great historian, one must write well. 2) In that short piece, the author gives an excellent summation of how history flows. How events of one period influence those of a following period. He lays out how the intellectual life of Europe radically changed in a period of about 100 years and, broadly, what the changes were. I will add that it was during this period that Europe was set on its road to world domination intellectually, philosophically and materially. That period, which has lasted for about 500 years is coming to and end.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 4, 2024 8:44:06 GMT -8
That period, which has lasted for about 500 years is coming to and end. I wish I could say your in error, but the evidence does suggest that the era of European/Anglo Saxon dominance is coming to an end. Without a moral and spiritual revival I believe we are facing a new dark age for humanity. Will there be progress over, the next 500 years? Certainly, but it will be a much slower pace then the last 500 or even the last 100 years. Is there a Hari Seldon to write out a pathway for humanity to survive the next 1000 years? Asimov suggested the future was in mathematics. I believe that is only a small part of the total. Humanity must find a way to build on the many positives of Western Culture while discarding the negatives. It will be a difficult task as the negatives of our culture are attractive for many who do not see the pitfall or the abyss. Try as we might many will continue to view society as broken, the present as a burden and only a glorious future, never to be attained, is the only answer for humanity. Conflict is certain how extensive it may be is the question. Sooner or later a nuclear power will decide it is in their interest to use their nuclear weapons. How the rest of the world responds will set the stage for the levels of combat. It may be that the coming November election actually is one of the most important in our history. Four more years of freckles leadership by Biden, who hates the country. Yes, he hates us. It is not stupidity for Biden is too stupid to be merely stupid. It is malice pure and simple. Like Donald Trump or not, our only chances to turn this unwieldy ship around is only about 9 months away, can we give birth to a new conception of freedom? Can we live to be free once again? Can truth again become a standard to measure character? Four years of a Trump presidency will not cure our problems, but it could set the pathway for correction. Four more years of Biden will bring on civil war.
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