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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 22, 2024 18:11:49 GMT -8
I was able to check out this book from Amazon through my local lending library. I started reading it late last night and am thoroughly impressed with the author's work. I had thought that Nigel Biggar was a historian, but he is no such thing. He is an ordained priest and calls himself an ethicist.
After reading his introduction, I was surprised to find that I am also an ethicist. (I suspect all the main contributors here have been ethicists.) I had seen myself as more of a historian. He goes into some detail on the trade offs which people, particularly those with power, must make in order to move forward. In public policy one always has to balance the pros and cons of any particular proposal. In business it is called a cost/benefit analysis. There is no such thing as a benefit/benefit analysis. Basically, he notes that "life is complicated," otherwise known as Kung's First Axiom.
He also notes something that I have pointed out to English friends about colonialism, i.e. it was somewhat haphazard in its beginnings and development. In Asia particularly, nobody set out to found a colonial empire. They started out trying to make money through trade. Biggar splendidly lays out how trade led to colonies. There is nothing very complex about it. It goes back to human nature and the state of the world during this period.
I will continue reading and update this string from time to time.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 22, 2024 18:53:54 GMT -8
Sounds interesting. Indeed, keep us updated.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 23, 2024 7:04:46 GMT -8
Evolutionary theories are necessarily ad hoc and fuzzy because they are just guesses dressed up as science. But such theories can still be suggestive.
The question arises about why a civilization would intentionally extinguish itself. Tucker's "replacement theory" is way beyond the bounds of the popular meaning of "theory" and it is instead a reality.
There's a political aspect, for sure. But underlying this must be a forerunner impulse. Why the trumped-up self-guilt, especially by stupid white women (but not only stupid white women, of course)?
First, it seems obvious that any minority tribe (black or Hispanic, in this case) is going to automatically find it advantageous to marginalize the majority. Grievances, real or imagined, fuel this animosity. And don't hold your breath waiting for the better angels of man's nature to declare that we are all people, despite our color, so we should all be treated equally. That's true, of course. But it's been bastardized by the Left as a concept...to the point that to not divide people by color is considered racist. Totally crazy, of course, but there it is.
Second, (and this is where evolutionary theory comes in), I watched a video once about tribes of chimpanzees in the jungle. These tribes fight quite similarly to human tribes, or at least for the same reasons. They fight for dominance, territory, food sources, and perhaps for the sheer sport of it. And the males do the fighting, of course. But what I found most interesting is that the females (often surreptitiously) went out of their way to mate with the outsiders, even apparently encouraging them to attack what we humans would call "the status quo." So Tucker's "replacement theory" is in complete alignment with evolutionary explanations of what females want. They want other males from the outside to challenge existing males who hold the power structure.
Well, you won't knock me over with a feather to suggest that this facilitation of the invasion of illegal aliens and the putting on the pedestal of "people of color" (other than Jews and Asians) is a female thing. Men, with all restraints off, will instead tend to murder and exterminate other tribes, not let them in. Is there anything in the history books of a culture intentionally replacing itself with foreigners? Certainly this happens if you import a bunch of slaves, or accept (as Rome did) foreigners into your legions simply because you needed the warm bodies. But if "replacement" ever came, could one argue that it was almost always unforeseen and accidental rather than intentional?
Obviously the third element is the political aspect. The Left is hostile to existing power structures and orders and will use any means to tear them down. Even so, I do think it's a muddle of influences that have led to our current situation whereby we can't, or won't, even take a realistic look at "colonialization," for example, lest it piss of those who have made grievance and hostility toward the West their religion.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 23, 2024 10:20:12 GMT -8
I believe one of the major disrupters in any society is boredom. Regardless how well things are going, there are always some people who tire of the same old, same old. They must have something "new" to keep their attention. Many of these people are easy prey to con men, crooks and sociopaths who claim to offer something new and better.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 23, 2024 11:02:51 GMT -8
There is no doubt about that.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 24, 2024 7:19:27 GMT -8
This book hasn't yet come to my online library although it is listed in a way that I can "Notify Me" when they do add it to their collection. Anyway, the official synopsis is pretty good: It sounds as if the book is brilliant. And this information needs to get out there. The only problem is, this entire issue isn't about facts. It's about moral preening by those who would kill the unborn in the millions but have set themselves up as their own kind of Great White Saviors. They have assumed their own "white man's burden" as they engage in Leftist cultural colonialism all over the world. Colonialism has not vanished. It's just taken a different form. We should get the author here and chat with him.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 24, 2024 15:12:36 GMT -8
I finished the chapter on slavery and Britain, which should be required reading by all high school students. The book is not an academic work, rather it takes a broad-sweep approach as regards slavery throughout history and becomes more specific when talking about the British relationship with slavery.
I learned nothing regarding the broad history of slavery, which is perhaps not surprising considering the amount of history I have read. On the other hand, over the years, I have noted how little most people seem to know about the subject. It is for those people, the vast majority, that Biggar wrote this chapter. Without belaboring the point, he goes back through history and lays out the ways slavery has been with us for millennia. Across all cultures, across all times, across all races. As in all things, context is important to understand a subject, and history gives the context necessary.
For those who do not know it, the Portuguese were the first Europeans to engage in the African slave trade to the New World. The Brits, Dutch and others followed, but the Portuguese stilled ended up the largest slavers in the area. The Brits were the second largest. Of course, the Africans themselves were enslaving each other for centuries before Europeans happened upon the business.
A lot of people were transported to the New World, especially to Brazil. The numbers used in such estimates must be viewed with a certain amount of caution, but Biggar writes that something like 11 millions Africans were shipped from Africa to the New World by the European powers. Interestingly, he writes that something like 17 million Africans were enslaved by Muslim slave traders over the centuries.
The Brits started fighting the slave trade pretty strongly in the late 18th century/early 19th century and spent huge amounts of money in their national budgets to eradicate it. For many decades, the Royal Navy kept many ships sailing the seas off of West Africa in order to stop the trade by force. The Muslims kept the trade going deep into the 20th century.
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