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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 22, 2019 7:51:45 GMT -8
Kevin Willliamson has caught a bit of David Frenchism: Is Patriotism Possible?I didn’t bother to do much more than skim. This commenter nailed it: The eternal need for some to set themselves above others by equating all below them as just different breeds of the same rat is the mark of an intellectual.
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Post by timothylane on Aug 22, 2019 8:48:31 GMT -8
Williamson is big on moral equivalence. This is the sort of thing that says that because it was wrong to blame the Tucson shooting on Sarah Palin, so it was wrong to blame the Family Research Association attack on the SPLC. Of course, Palin's targeting of Gabby Giffords had nothing to do with the attempt on her life by a nut who probably didn't care for Palin either (he was generally leftist in his views) and disliked Giffords for some point of grammar (I don't recall the precise details now).
By contrast, the leftist attacker did know that that the FRA was targeted as a hate group because of their opposition to the homosexual agenda, a major concern of his. Nor was it an accident that he brought a bunch of sandwiches from Chick-fill-A to stuff in the corpses' mouths.
Such people are always eager to say that both sides are just the same. Sometimes they have a point. Anyone running for office from the out-party has to find something wrong with America as a reason we need a change. But the Demagogues aren't just doing that; they're saying America and its founders, and even its citizens today, are irredeemably evil.
Williamson could see this if he weren't so reflexively committed to moral equivalence as a principle.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 22, 2019 9:15:31 GMT -8
As I say, the desire for most intellectuals to raise themselves about the crowd is too tempting for them to pass up. One might make a good point by noting the moral confusion being facilitated by writers such as Williamson which just muddies the waters.
But fixing the problem is not the point. If it was, these writers would not be churning out the gibberish that they typically do.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 15, 2019 8:11:23 GMT -8
Here’s a strange article at The American Spectator: The Kiss of Death for French-ism?This is a long and convoluted journey in an attempt to criticize David French. As one reviewer pointed out: This wanker is indeed complaining about the fact that he stumbled across a porn site while trying to find a web site for the band, Kiss. This all then runs through a tortured and convoluted diatribe of blaming French and blaming Christianity for the Idol of Personal Autonomy that is often (perhaps rightly) blamed for so much that is going on. Another commenter wrote: I bring this to your attention only to note that as yutes move up through the ranks, “conservatism” is proving as flexible as Silly Putty. Remember when Mark Steyn was fired from NRO for re-telling of an old Bob Hope joke? Well, just the other day they featured a praising article of one of the most fowl-mouthed comedians of the day, Bill Burr. And it’s not that Burr (I’ve heard some of his stuff) isn’t sometimes funny. And I do like some of his politically incorrect takes on things. But Burr is a vulgar man, a sign of the times. Yet he is praised and Mark Steyn was given the heave-ho. This is why the Left is winning. No one is willing to stand athwart. And those who poke fun at the Left are often already pretty far left themselves. It’s an absurd comedy playing out in the conservative press. As for David French, he’s in the position of Trump on this one: The beneficiary of unhinged enemies. I might call Irving Berlin or Bing Crosby all-American. But the band, Kiss, is representative of the worst part of American culture.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 15, 2019 9:28:07 GMT -8
The key failure of the article is the unawareness of the concept of "too much of a good thing". Christianity brought the notion that everyone is of equal worth in the eyes of God. The idea of personal autonomy may spring from that, but it goes a long way beyond it. Christ taught that there are moral principles we should follow, but as long as we genuinely repented when we (inevitably) often failed to do so, we were forgiven. The belief that there is no god higher than yourself is very different, even if Christianity is indeed the starting point.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 15, 2019 9:50:30 GMT -8
That writer could not find those words. But that sums it up very well.
And “personal autonomy” is in danger of becoming a phrase that means anything and thus means nothing. I sure as hell want “personal autonomy” when it comes to independence from a smothering state. But when “personal autonomy” means harassing Christian bakers because they won’t consecrate a homosexual wedding, count me out.
What I got out of that article is how convoluted much of the thinking is out there. The article did make one salient point:
I agree with that. But then “nice” reputed Republicans and conservatives who won’t do anything as impolite as actually materially opposing their enemies are a dime a dozen. David French didn’t invent this. He didn’t invent the “persuade them by belly-rolling” style of conservatism.
The issues can be complicated. What is conservatism? What is Christianity? What should the limits of the state be? What should people do for themselves? Just how much of an existential threat is the Left rather than being just a David Frenchistic gentleman’s disagreement across a mahogany-grained table?
Articles such as this one muddy the waters. But they are instructive for just how lost the people are. I mean, if the band, Kiss, is the definition of all-American then the only definition of “American” is a stupid culture-wide fad that lasts long enough that people forget that they are the goldfish in a bowl swimming in cultural waters.
An article outlining this (which I just kinda-sorta wrote) would be more enlightening.
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 15, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -8
I started to read the article, but could not get past the first paragraph as it contained the above sentence. The writer must be a complete idiot. Oh wait, he is a university professor. That explains his idiocy. Kiss is trash, performed by trash for people whose tastes run to trash. And if the professor is claiming that he is some sort of great Christian then we know he is a mental case or liar.
I remember when Kiss first came out and I could not, for the life of me, understand their attraction except for losers who had no taste and either didn't know they had no taste, or knew it and understood that they had neither the perspicacity nor inclination to improve their debased state.
Only a no-talent band would have to resort to the salacious antics and satanic clown suits which Kiss wear. These also help cover up the fact that the band is made up of rather ugly people.
Even Gene Simmons, who is in my opinion a libertine libertarian scum bag, knows this. He is also a talentless boob. In some interview he mentioned that his mother complained to him about the vulgarity of his act/job and he told her that if she wanted to keep getting the moola, she had better learn to live with it and keep quiet. Or words to that effect.
Kiss is the manifestation of the complete dumbing down of society i.e. the democratization of culture. Such "entertainment" is a bane to society and helps promote the coarsening and debasing of tastes. With a band such as Kiss, as with rap, the pursuit of excellence is a foreign concept. That some idiot of a "professor" would come out praising such rubbish, is all the proof we need that aesthetically, spiritually and morally, the USA has already gone over the cliff and gravity will not reverse itself.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 16, 2019 7:30:55 GMT -8
Here at Reviews-and-Things we use less bellicose language. We call them “Fishbowl Conservatives.” Please get with the program and show more sensitivity and respect for the idiots.
I sense some waffling here on your views toward Kiss. Could you clarify that? You’re definitely not a fan then?
Okay, seriously. That’s a pretty good paragraph. I expect to read none finer today, perhaps the entire week. It rings true, especially after having watched 3/5ths of a Dave Chappelle stand-up act (“Sticks and Stones”) on Netflix. I may describe that later. But, in short, it’s about people celebrating their debased state.
And equating “Gene Simmons” with “All-American” works only if you redefine “All-American” with a heavy slant toward “Caitlyn” instead of “Bruce.”
Absolutely. Over the cliff. Too much gravity for the booster rockets of ideological conservatism to overcome crashing at the bottom.
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 16, 2019 8:18:45 GMT -8
I know that I sometimes lack clarity. I apologize.
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 27, 2019 10:25:51 GMT -8
The link is to an article in the Jerusalem Post which is a good example of the type of thinking common among left-wing Jews as regards Trump and by extension traditional American culture.
You will note their constant fear is one of the main motivating factors in their politics. I have long said that in order to understand the typical Jewish leftist slant, one has to understand the underlying fear they have a as people. History has been rather severe with them, but on the other hand, I believe it is this severity which has kept them together, identifying as a people for something like 4,000 years.
Additionally, I believe that their political position is made into a religion due to some inherent need in the Jewish people for meaning and something to worship. For leftist Jews who lost Jehovah, Hegelian thought seems to have become a replacement. What they do must be seen as important, more than just "the everyday." Trump and the Jews
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Post by timothylane on Sept 27, 2019 10:58:38 GMT -8
One can understand Jewish concerns over a possible new Holocaust, but if they were as smart as they think they are (and as they tend to be on non-political matters), they would notice that such an event is far likelier to come from leftists or their jihadist allies, both full of virulent anti-Semites. On the other hand, it's worthy of note that Orthodox Jews (such as the Hasidim) are much likelier to support the GOP because they value traditional morality. Conservative Jews are less supportive, and Reform Jews are basically secular, replacing Judaism with Leftism.
Harry Turtledove, who happens to be Jewish, once wrote a story about a victim group on an alien planet who had to be wary lest they be killed for no good reason. They were also much smarter than the superior group -- and one, as he was about to be executed, told some concerned humans that this was why they were smarter. If the slightest slip can be fatal, then evolution selects for those least likely to make such slips (at least before reproducing). Unfortunately, I don't recall the title.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 27, 2019 11:06:43 GMT -8
Israel would be annihilated 10 minutes after the United States announced that we were no longer allies. American Leftist Jews might celebrate that. Even the worst anti-Semetic president — such as Obama — is (was) not their worst enemy.
Most Jew are morally baffled and still wandering in the wilderness.
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Post by timothylane on Sept 27, 2019 11:49:26 GMT -8
Australian SF writer John Birmingham wrote a series about the disappearance of (most of) America and the consequences. In the first volume (Without Warning), Israel launches a pre-emptive strike against its many foes in the Levant -- including Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood has taken over. (Very prescient, that.) One scene involves an Israeli pilot returning from having taken out the Aswan High Dam and noticing the "second sun" in the distant north. "Where Cairo once stood."
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 27, 2019 12:54:08 GMT -8
I frankly wouldn't care if they nuked the whole lot.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 27, 2019 13:48:02 GMT -8
There’s a name for people doing that: Muslims. You’ll find very few Reaganites involved in that. In fact, it should be obvious to Jews that Christians (at least Protestants) are overwhelmingly supportive of Jews. But most Jews, like most blacks, are extremely prejudiced.
Unstated in this article is that: Most Jews have scrammed from God Almighty and put their faith in a political party of the Left. You can try to deny this with all sorts of baloney about the dreaded fear of white Christian America suddenly harassing Jews. But that is where they are.
I mean, Jesus H. Christ, there was a reason that God himself had to walk the Jews around in the desert for 40 years waiting for a generation to die off, and their ideas with them, before they could be moral and sanctified. Jews have hitched themselves to a big, all-powerful, Progressive state. And as they say, anything that has the power to give you everything has the power to take away everything.
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 27, 2019 14:43:29 GMT -8
This lays out the clear paranoia, (fed by continuous propaganda on how bad things are) and resentment it breeds. This is a huge motivating factor of left-wing Jews; sadly most of those in the USA. Of course, for these fools and scoundrels, criticism of any kind equals hate speech. Racial bigotry is to them, questioning anything they say and those of North European extraction being proud of their culture and heritage.
As my wife, who is Asian and chose to become an American says about all these bums who tear down the USA, "If they think America is so bad, why don't they leave?"
Never forget that these people want fundamental change in America. They have no love of our traditions or heritage. They hate Trump because they see in him a figure around whom traditional Americans are rallying. That is, people who believe things like, there are two sexes, deviants of the same sex should not be able to marry each other, our Founding Fathers were great men who helped create the greatest nation in history, hate crimes are merely a way to punish the left's political opponents and sixteen year old autistic girls should not be taken seriously on national policy.
The old Aesop fable applies here. Their intent is to "divide and rule" or at least "divide and keep everyone confused."
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Post by timothylane on Sept 27, 2019 16:03:57 GMT -8
KFZ's wife asks a very pertinent question, one that has resonated through the years. We've learned the answer: if they left, they could hardly remake America into their totalitarian utopia. And at some level, I suspect many of these Jews know, though they will never admit, that they're safer here than anywhere else. (Isaac Asimov, though a secular leftist Jew, is one who did realize that. And I suspect Orthodox Jews are likely to realize it.)
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Post by Brad Nelson on Sept 27, 2019 16:44:10 GMT -8
Jews should ask themselves: Do they really want to align themselves with a party whose central dogmas are based on race, some more deserving than others? Is the effin Mosaic law pretty much colorblind? Do they not see the Nazism inside of Progressivism?
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Post by timothylane on Sept 27, 2019 17:02:10 GMT -8
They can't ask themselves that until they allow themselves to see the left as it really is. (As Aldonza sings to Don Quixote in the inner play in Man of La Mancha, "Take the clouds from your eyes and see me as I really am." Too bad they never will. They will continue to believe, as Quixote says earlier, "Facts are the enemy of truth.")
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Post by kungfuzu on Sept 27, 2019 17:40:53 GMT -8
I believe shortly after 9/11, C-Span broadcast some meeting held in NYC for American Jews which discussed the situation of Jews in America. The panel was made up of various Jewish intellectuals or leaders, including David Brooks, who I believe was moderator. I guess the program went on for more than an hour, during which most of the panel bitched and complained about the situation of Jews in America. According to these gonifs, things were just horrible for American Jews.
The constant badmouthing finally got to one of the panelists who was a South African rabbi, and he tore into the scoundrels for their dishonesty and blindness. He pointed out that never in history had the Jews had it so good as they do in the USA. He warned the others that if they kept provoking Americans with their constant anti-American lies and interference in the daily lives of normal Americans, that the day might come when regular Americans tire of the constant criticism and interference from the Jewish minority and decide that that minority was not welcome. It had happened before, he said.
Even David Brooks had to agree that much of the so-called criticism of America was unwarranted.
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