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Feb 12, 2020 14:19:12 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 12, 2020 14:19:12 GMT -8
"Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" was new to me. I loved Tom Lehrer's pieces on "That Was the Week that Was." Too bad the program did not run for many years.
My parents had one or two of his albums, so I remember him best from those.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 12, 2020 15:45:13 GMT -8
What a nice song by the Mills Brothers. I love those guys. Back when music was civilized.
Is Paul Shanklin still doing his shtick? “My Carona” is a great idea for a parody.
Ooh my little dirty one, dirty one When you gonna make em all die, Carona? Ohh you make the airlines run, they all run Gonna make the iPhone in other climes, Carona.
Never gonna drop, my mask up Such a dirty bug. Can always get it from just a touch of the bird-flu kind. Lie lie lie, China woo! D D D Die, Carona
Come a little closer bug, ah will ya huh Close enough to redden my eyes, Carona Keep away from Doctor Li, he’s a freak Though diarrhea’s running down my thigh, Carona Never gonna drop, no China stop, Such a dirty kind. Can always get a duck for the pot of the frozen kind. My my my icky poo!
D D D Die, Carona D D D Die, Carona
And that’s as far as propriety or good taste will allow me to take this.
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Feb 12, 2020 15:51:30 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 12, 2020 15:51:30 GMT -8
I can’t say I’ve ever heard of Tom Lehrer or that song. Great shtick.
Good stuff.
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Feb 12, 2020 16:31:29 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Feb 12, 2020 16:31:29 GMT -8
"Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" was the first song on Lehrer's album An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer, which also includes several other classics, including his Christmas parody, "The Elements", "It Makes a Fellow Proud to Be a Soldier" (which Jim Bouton reported a baseball parody of), and "We Will All Go Together When We Go".
One of Lehrer's albums was That Was the Year That Was, which included (among many other things) his songs from TW3 (which we watched regularly, at least when it was available). In my final (never completed) issue of FOSFAX, I was doing a parody of his paean to "Wernher von Braun" ("Some have harsh words for this man of renown, but some think our attitude should be one of gratitude, like the widows and cripples in old London town who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun") and did a parody ("The Vote Fraud Army", which I think I included in ST) of "Folk Song Army". It also had such famous songs as "Pollution" (a version of which was included as an epigraph to a book on the subject I had in college) and "Who's Next?" as well as his songs of World War III (which were part of a TW3 skit by Steve Allen).
His first album was Songs by Tom Lehrer, much of which dates back to 1948. Fredric Brown's The Lenient Beast has a scene in which one of the characters was playing the album. It included his song "Lobachevsky", which was a parody of a Danny Kaye routine, "When You Are Old and Gray (with a great set of word play using rhymes based on words ending in "ility"), "The Hunting Song" -- and also including a couple of songs I skip when I play my MP3 of it.
There were various Tom Lehrer CDs that were more omnibus albums, including "I Got It From Agnes" about an unspecified veneral disease and several somewhat educational songs about language and math.
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Feb 13, 2020 20:36:34 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 13, 2020 20:36:34 GMT -8
This is what a running-dog lackey of the Red Chinese sounds like. Robert Lawrence KuhnHe is one of the American elites who have been selling the USA down the river for decades. These types combine their love of money with their love of authoritarianism. To nourish both, they display a public obsequiousness to their Red paymasters. I believe Kuhn could teach Uriah Heep a thing or two as regards phony facades.
He clearly loves the Chinese Communist Party.
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Feb 14, 2020 9:27:39 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Feb 14, 2020 9:27:39 GMT -8
Much of Kuhn's paean to a Communist dictatorship might well be true, but to boast of their transparency is truly egregious. Even if they be finally transparent in their reports (which I wouldn't bet on, hence my careful use of the subjunctive), they certainly didn't start that way and an honest reporter would acknowledge that. And that gives one reason to doubt the whole article.
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Feb 14, 2020 21:36:04 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 14, 2020 21:36:04 GMT -8
This article is a good reminder of what leftists hacks do. George Orwell warned of it and the communist Chinese are adept practitioners of thought and speech control. Even today, the Reds are still not letting the world have a clear picture of what happened and what is happening in Wuhan.
Dr. LiWhile Dr. Li's warning was about a communicable disease, the thought control practiced by our leftists is more serious because it not only leads to fiascos such as that taking place in China, it leads to total loss of freedom. We need to continue to fight "hate-crime" laws and any further restrictions which try to muzzle us just because someone might be offended.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 15, 2020 11:13:32 GMT -8
I have seen several articles on this subject. We'd better start paying attention. China controls American drugsAnother sell-out by our elites who worship "the market." There are such things as strategic industries. As the piece mentions, not only do the Chinese control a huge percentage of the production of the raw materials required for making drugs, they are notorious for adulterating just about everything they produce. I had a friend who had a Michelin Star rated restaurant. He later worked in Asia and one of his comments about the Chinese sums things up. He basically noted that "you can teach Chinese how to cook French Food and they can become excellent chefs. But if you go away for three weeks, leaving them without constant oversight, when you return what they will be cooking is no longer French Food. During the three weeks you have been away, motivated through a combination of trying to save money and thinking they are smarter than everyone else, they will have tampered, experimented and fooled around with your French dish to the point where the only thing of it that is still French will be the name."
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Feb 15, 2020 11:41:35 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Feb 15, 2020 11:41:35 GMT -8
Overall, the economy is better off with free trade. All those mercantilist policies cost more than they're worth. Of course, if there is some purpose to the economy besides accumulating wealth -- something most economists don't consider -- it's another matter. How would our leaders feel if our weapons were all made in China? This is true of anything essential.
For that matter, if one looked at the economy not as piling up total wealth but considered who gets it all, free trade would have problems dealing with mercantilism. There's nothing wrong with making rich people richer -- but when it comes with making the working class and/or middle classes poorer, it's another matter.
Another problem is something only briefly mentioned in the article -- China not only controls the (defective) manufacture of drugs, but also the manufacture of other medical supplies. The nurses and aides in nursing homes (such as mine) and hospitals use lots and lots of sanitary plastic or rubber gloves. Anyone want to guess where they come from? Similarly with sanitary masks (though they don't use as many of those) and many other supplies.
China doesn't have to fire a shot to conquer the world. All they have to do is crack the whip that we handed them, and everyone will have to dance to their tune.
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Feb 15, 2020 13:07:12 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 15, 2020 13:07:12 GMT -8
Strange times.
Nothing says "I love you" like a box of face masks and rubber gloves.
The same thing is beginning to happen here. The owner of my Friday-Night-Italian restaurant told me she was at Sam's Club and went to buy a couple of face masks for some reason, not health related. Just before she got to the spot where Sam's displayed face masks, an Asian woman came up and took every single face mask on the shelf.
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Feb 15, 2020 16:00:49 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Feb 15, 2020 16:00:49 GMT -8
As it happens, I was just playing a very appropriate song for this subject. It was from the CD Campaign and Suffering by the political parody troupe the Capitol Steps. The song is "Buy, Buy American Pie" and it deals with the difficulty of finding products not made in China -- and the likelihood that such products will be adulterated with things like antifreeze. The CD generally deals with the 2008 campaign, so this has been a recognized problem for over a decade.
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Feb 15, 2020 20:27:36 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 15, 2020 20:27:36 GMT -8
I had a fair amount to do with the Mainland Chinese and their products over the years. In my experience during the late 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, many Mainland Chinese deliver off-grade, sub-standard and generally faulty materials on a regular basis. Of course, there are a good number of producers who deliver fairly good product. One of the reasons proper representation is so important in China, is to know which companies are total crooks and which are not.
I moved back to the USA end 1999/early 2000. During my first few years back, I ran into companies which had imported Chinese goods on a fairly large scale. When I asked them if they had had any trouble with the products, virtually all of them said no. To be sure, I would then say something like, "Are you positive? Because this does not sound like the China I know." They all confirmed they were happy with their buys. This confused me, because I had been dealing with the Chinese since the late 1970s and one had to be on constant lookout for their less-than-honest business practices.
After a couple of years, the true picture started to appear. Poison dog food and toothpaste, contaminated sheet rock in hundreds of thousands of homes and many other stories started to come out. When I heard these, I said to myself, "Ah, now that sounds like the China I know."
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Feb 16, 2020 18:17:25 GMT -8
Post by timothylane on Feb 16, 2020 18:17:25 GMT -8
The latest issue of the AMAC Magazine has an article on Huawei, the Chinese telecommunications firm that has been the subject of controversy. The article pointed out the danger of Chinese involvement in the growth of 5G technology. Even if a company isn't linked to the Chinese military (as Huawei has been), it has no choice but to obey any order the Chicom Behemoth gives it. And if that is to spy on someone (like Trump or some other important person), or even to crash a specific self-driving car to kill a driver they dislike, they "hear and obey".
Some might recall the controversy late in Bush's term about a Dubai company taking over management of various American ports. The concern was obvious, though whether Dubai is the same threat that Qatar would be is another question. But we've been allowing China, a potential (and increasingly) hostile nation to have similar roles in a wide variety of fields. Trump is the first President to understand that this can be a major problem.
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Feb 16, 2020 18:29:38 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2020 18:29:38 GMT -8
I think it is likelier that he is the first President not to be in on the Globalist scam which has been taking place over the last several decades.
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Feb 17, 2020 8:32:43 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2020 8:32:43 GMT -8
I read this article whose title is self-explanatory: To Tame Coronavirus, Mao-Style Social Control Blankets ChinaIf this thing is as deadly as the black plague — and that seems to be how they are treating it — then what you need is Mao-style social control. China being so yuge, it’s probably not surprising that this control is a patchworks of methods. I wonder if their methods are surprising to the gullible Western masses who thought that the Communists were no big deal, perhaps easily tamed by market capitalism. Or maybe that’s what people, such as the homosexual, Tim Cook, have been telling themselves. But if a new plague hit America, I would want a fairly active government to step in to try to contain it. What we’d more likely get is people protesting Trump or dressing up like viruses and condemning anyone who “stigmatizes” those who have the illness. One can say the competency of the Chinese Communists is being undermined. But in a land of a billion people spread out all over, a modern plague would likely show any government to be incompetent. Either you have to sit back and be “nice” so that you don’t do anything that looks bad in front of the cameras or you have to make some tough decisions. No one hates the Red Chinese as much as I do. And unlike the homosexual, Tim Cook, and many others who have had direct dealings with them, I never imagined the Chinese government was ever getting “kinder and gentler.” My take-away from this is that the Chinese Communists see this as a big threat to their business and thus their regime’s power. I don’t think they could care less if a hundred millions Chinese peasants died if they could maintain control on power and keep the capitalist money flowing in.
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Feb 17, 2020 20:36:52 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 17, 2020 20:36:52 GMT -8
The world is seeing a small picture of the costs of the Globalist agenda. When China has problems, factories around the world have big problems. Problems for consumers are not far behind.
And the effect that the Red Corona virus is having on world travel is huge.
The fact that SIA is cancelling so many flights in addition to destinations other than China is a sign of how bad things are. Asian airlines are getting clobbered.
More proof that the Reds know what they are doing. (Not)
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 18, 2020 9:01:17 GMT -8
I went to Winco the other day, Mr. Kung, and saw at least two people with masks on. I wonder if more visions of this sort of thing is in our future.
I liked one article I read recently that said “Will yutes now learn that Communism is bad?” The article ended by basically saying, “No. They think Bernie will do it right.”
Here’s the problem for me regarding China (and noting that I very much hate the Chinese Communists): If this is a very deadly virus let loose in a yuge population, is the Commie reaction going to be substantially worse than, say, if this was let loose in Canada or Europe?
Like I said, I hate the Chinese Communists and have never pretended that they weren’t what they are: Heirs to the butchery of 100 million by Mao. But what would effective control of an outbreak in a similar population look like?
Yes, I realize the Reds look like a Chinese fire drill. But so does our own TSA.
You spelled “huge” wrong.
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Feb 18, 2020 9:43:35 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 18, 2020 9:43:35 GMT -8
One can see how other places across Asia are handling the situation. Singapore has a population of something like 6 million, Japan a population of something like 120 million, Thailand about 70-80 million and the Philippines I don't know how many tens of millions.
In all these countries only two people have died of the Corona virus. These countries have handled the situation much better than the Reds. I believe one person has died in Hongkong and one in France.
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Feb 23, 2020 13:12:36 GMT -8
Post by kungfuzu on Feb 23, 2020 13:12:36 GMT -8
The Coronavirus panic is getting worse. Austria has halted train traffic from Italy through the Brenner Pass. South Korea and Iran appear to have serious outbreaks. I believe the total number of deaths outside China is still only about 19-20, but the economic damage being done is enormous and starting to hit the West.
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Feb 23, 2020 13:23:51 GMT -8
Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 23, 2020 13:23:51 GMT -8
That virus could turn into the perfect storm.
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