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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 13, 2019 14:51:37 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 13, 2019 18:35:03 GMT -8
I definitely think lawn mowing counts. That’s a form of gardening, thus you are out in nature. And it’s a singular exercise that you do yourself — time with yourself, if you will.
Nature for me is a draw, like writing. It’s something I have to do to feel whole (or at least 3/5ths full). It’s a passion.
But I have to admit, like many things, it started as a chore. Couch potato-ing is so easy and feels good. I believe it is a huge phenomenon that people come home at night and spend six hours playing online (usually violent) video games.
What you won’t get out of me is kookiness or California flakiness regarding the subject. There is no magic, per se, in getting outdoors. In fact, if you’re not careful and well-prepared, it’s a very good way to get killed. Few die on their couches eating potato chips.
But there is no doubt that physical activity has an immediate and positive effect on one’s attitude. And just making the change of getting away from one’s desk is good. But I’ve also seen people “out in nature” who might as well have stayed home. I’ve seen people gabbing non-stop about work as I’ve passed them on the trail and I’ve thought, “Why do they even bother?”
Probably more central to this subject is solitude, not nature, per se. You need to get away from other people and spend some contemplative time. Nature just happens to be a convenient place to do that and has other benefits to it as well.
I watched a lot of that Monty Don stuff of people creating gardens in small spaces outside their homes. To a man (or woman) they noted that they really needed a place to get away, even if it was just out the back door and a few steps. Some of the gardens are so carefully crafted that a few steps away and it seems as if you’re lost in a jungle. I do recommend watching “Big Dreams, Small Spaces” if you have Netflix or can find it elsewhere.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 13, 2019 20:52:04 GMT -8
Holy smokes. Those look jagged. Those look like they were designed by Cardinal Richelieu of the Spanish Inquisition.
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Post by timothylane on Jun 13, 2019 21:02:48 GMT -8
Richelieu had nothing to do with the Spanish Inquisition. Indeed, during most of his domination of France, the country was hostile to Spain, and often at war.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 13, 2019 21:24:06 GMT -8
Actually it was a pretty good joke that even your pedanticism couldn't hobble. But he was a bad-ass in The Three Musketeers with Charlton Heston. I love that movie.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 14, 2019 7:36:08 GMT -8
Holy smokes. Those look jagged. Those look like they were designed by Cardinal Richelieu of the Spanish Inquisition. They do look nasty, but they weren't even close to the most painful stones which I have had. As I say, if my stones were diamonds, I would be rich.
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Post by timothylane on Jun 14, 2019 10:06:30 GMT -8
I don't recall my friend ever describing the shapes of his kidney stones, but then many were broken up using ultrasound. Now he drinks a lot of acidic fluids so that they won't grow too large and will be passed easily. Isaac Asimov in his memoirs described some rather jagged kidney stones.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 14, 2019 10:59:03 GMT -8
Kidney stones can come in all sorts of shapes. Some are roundish like the ones in the picture. Some are like flat triangles a la the old Fina gas station signs. Some are long with little spikes. Nature is wonderful in the many alternatives it can create for inflicting pain.
Potassium citrate is the recommended antidote to calcium oxalate stones and even more so for controlling uric acid. Having the juice of half a lemon in warm water every morning is also thought to help.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 14, 2019 12:15:53 GMT -8
The doctor is *in*. Considering I like lemonade, this should be easy advice to follow. And a good time of year for lemonade, that's for sure.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 14, 2019 12:31:18 GMT -8
Considering I like lemonade, this should be easy advice to follow.
Be sure to make it extra lemony.
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Post by timothylane on Jun 14, 2019 12:42:21 GMT -8
My friend drinks a lot of cranberry juice, which works well. I don't know how much he can get now at his nursing home, which is owned by the same people who own mine (but not, as far as I know, the same people who own Elizabeth's). They serve a good bit of lemonade here in this nursing home, as well as orange juice at breakfast. I had some at lunch today, in fact. Whether I need it is another matter. I've never had any of the problems associated with kidney stones, but who knows? They do serve a good bit of spinach here. I doubt I'll ever have to worry about vitamin K shortage.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 15, 2019 9:28:44 GMT -8
My friend drinks a lot of cranberry juice, which works well. I think many people attribute (perhaps rightly so) some good health benefits to cranberries. I've been making Mr. Kung's Magic Diet Smoothie lately. I've been trying to find some frozen cranberries to put it in but can't find them. So I make due for now with blueberries.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 15, 2019 13:17:24 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 15, 2019 17:40:35 GMT -8
I usually say a heck of a lot more than that, Mr. Kung
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 15, 2019 18:58:00 GMT -8
I usually say a heck of a lot more than that, Mr. Kung So do I except when I screw up the technical side of things.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 15, 2019 20:30:13 GMT -8
I'm sure you've seen a lot of weird detritus from my experiments, Mr. Kung.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 15, 2019 20:44:12 GMT -8
Also, you should have the ability to delete whatever you want to delete. Just hit the little gear thingie next to a post, chose "Delete Post" from the "Moderate" menu. Just make sure you're deleting the right post. If you don't have this power I will give it to you. Use it wisely.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 15, 2019 20:56:11 GMT -8
Thanks for the advice. I originally tried to delete my post by clicking the "edit" icon and then clicking the little gear thing. But when I did that, it said "bookmark." I didn't realize that one should simply click the gear thing and then delete. No need to click "edit."
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Post by davegs on Jul 16, 2019 4:36:03 GMT -8
Warning - stream of consciousness following. I really like this topic of 120 minutes in 'nature'. I've learned to spend that - or more - every couple weeks, because if I don't I become cranky, irritable and difficult to live with. Then I go hike, kayak, canoe or something similar - and things just seem to, I don't know - work themselves back into a peaceable pattern, if that makes any sense. Mowing the lawn helps - but doesn't 'fill the cup' if you know what I mean. Though born and raised Christian, with all its customs of 'going to church', I find that spending time 'in nature' sometimes feels to me that it is worshiping in the 'church of the outdoors'. Man's creation of churches can certainly be inspirational, but sitting on top of a mountain whether in the sunshine OR the rain can be transcendental.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 16, 2019 8:14:54 GMT -8
That makes perfect sense, Dave. I also can relate to “The Church of the Outdoors.” And this is quite distinct from tree-hugging. One of the problems of crowded, artificial, human cities is crowded, artificial, human cities. I believe it’s not nature, per se, that is the tonic. It’s solitude. And nature, of course, provides a nice focus for that.
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