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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 26, 2020 19:08:22 GMT -8
I thought this particularly appropriate for our present times.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 8, 2020 11:53:25 GMT -8
As the KFF panic has clearly demonstrated, women are overwhelmingly concerned with immediate safety and security. The mask-Nazis would appear to be overwhelmingly female. This being the case, I think I am safe is saying:
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 13, 2020 10:41:12 GMT -8
Did you log onto my account and switch avatars? That sounds an awful lot like me.
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Post by kungfuzu on Aug 13, 2020 11:41:53 GMT -8
I have been caught. Mea culpa.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 3, 2020 22:20:48 GMT -8
I know Brad and I have had some discussions in the past regarding the nature of literature and its related arts such as theater and movies. I have long maintained that writers of literature and such are basically liars. I can't recall which famous writer agreed with this, I believe he said something like "we live on lies," but the idea is not foreign to a number of artists.
While reading an article in American Greatness, I came across a wonderful quote by Orwell that confirms, or at least supports, my belief.
As I have long said, popular literature and theatrical art has given too many people an attitude which would suit Candide, i.e. everything is going to be alright.
The simpletons and lazy among us, i.e. the vast majority, do not seem to understand that we in the West and in America particular had to work and fight for centuries to achieve the wonderful position we have gained. Constant work and struggle are the price needed to maintain our way of life.
I just hope we have not become to soft and stupid to hold on to it. We need to "Man Up" as Brad says.
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Post by timothylane on Oct 4, 2020 7:32:22 GMT -8
I'm sure a lot of writers have pointed out that they're basically writing lies, and no doubt this point has also been made about movies and TV shows as well. One place I do recall it coming up is in Robert Bloch's "The Closer of the Way".
Not all stories have happy ending (cf. Tess of the D'Urbervilles, which we read in 12th grade, and many Shakespeare tragedies). And even those that have happy endings often involve a real struggle to get there. No one who read The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings would develop a Pollyannish attitude like Candide (or perhaps more accurately Dr. Pangloss).
Incidentally, Leonard Wibberley wrote a pastiche of Candide called Adventures of an Elephant Boy, which involves the title character's adventures after President Pangloss of the Best of All Possible Nations decides he wants to meet a typical southeast Asian elephant boy.
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Post by artraveler on Oct 4, 2020 7:53:26 GMT -8
I think it would have been better for the Trump guy not to smack the leftist, but I can sometimes understand someone getting fed up with leftists stirring things up. In the 1970s, I think 76, John Wayne mead his last movie, The Shootist. In that movie he expressed the moral code of the character. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. and I expect the same from others". If more people lived by that code, or variations of it it would not be necessary to smack the stupidity down as often. There is a good chance I would have shot the SOB as he was moving from insulting and wronging to battery.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 5, 2020 15:22:36 GMT -8
One caller to the Rush Limbaugh show today called in complaining about the way that America is irrevocably divided into Red America and Blue America. Through his moaning he said that the only solution he saw was for the two Americas to divide from each other and go their separate ways. The caller was clearly wishing to be part of the Red America. I have heard similar arguments many times over the last few years. While I can understand the sentiment behind them, I am amazed at the lack of forethought displayed by those who promote such a thing. This lack of clear thinking does seem to be a major weakness of many on the right. Can anyone seriously believe that everything would be hunky-dory if America split? Do conservatives really think that the leftists, they have fought in America, will forget everything and mind their own business in their new Blue Utopia? Anyone who thinks that is beyond stupid and naive'. I assure you that one of the first things that the new Blue America will do would be to sign mutual-defense treaties with some very nasty countries, such as Red China. Blue America would work with foreign powers to undermine Red America in any way possible. Given that Red America would be about half the size of what the USA is today, Red America would be substantially weaker than today's USA. It would be easier to bully around and isolate from the rest of the world.
The eventual goal of Blue America would be the reconquest of Red America. It would do this with the aid of countries like China, in order to create a fully Marxist country. Thus we would end up in the same situation we are trying to avoid and would experience huge war loses to boot. This is why I see no good options today. We cannot simply walk away from the tyrannical assholes of the Democratic Bolshevik Party and follow our own paths. We cannot ignore the tyrannical assholes of the Democratic Bolshevik Party and their followers, hoping they will leave us alone. They won't. The only chance we have is to beat the Democratic Bolsheviks decisively at the poll booth. And if that fails, be prepared to defend ourselves against their tyranny with force of our own. Sorry, but it is better to have a clear understanding of our options, than to live in Never-Never Land, which is something Americans over the last six or seven decades have become adept at.
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Post by artraveler on Oct 5, 2020 16:38:00 GMT -8
The only chance we have is to beat the Democratic Bolsheviks decisively at the poll booth. And if that fails, be prepared to defend ourselves against their tyranny with force of our own. I could not agree more, although I have a disposition that tends towards states rights and the option to withdraw from the union. The reasons for opposing any kind of disunion are vastly different from those in 1860. There are fewer similarities between red and blue states today than between north and south in 1860. So, here we are 120 years later on the verge of another conflict. The tiger we have by the ears is not just one issue but many. I don't like the odds of keeping CA in the union without force. I believe, using the process that Lincoln used the federal government could, if forced, use the military to arrest the entire government of CA and declare martial law. That means the president who ever he/she is will have to suspend habius corpus It would be messy, controversial and generate hostility in other states but making an example of CA would be a significant first step to bringing the raging left to its knees. But I doubt it will happen.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 7, 2020 7:42:23 GMT -8
Yes, defeat them. There's no room in this land for Communists.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 10, 2020 19:00:34 GMT -8
This is the first article I recall ever having seen which points out the assault on the middle class arising from the similarity of behaviors of the rich and poor. The rich are libertines because wealth assures they don't have to pay for their actions, plus it makes them think they are above the rules of the little people. The poor are libertines as they don't believe they have anything to lose as they are at the bottom already, so what's the point of following the rules? There is nothing new is this. Since before the French Revolution, the rabble and aristocracy have had much in common behavior wise. Both hate the middle class because it embodies values like hard work, thrift, marriage, moderation i.e. values which require self-control and discipline. The term bourgeois has always been a derogatory term for middle-class rule followers. Unholy allianceI believe I posted about this subject several times at ST. I know Brad and I have discussed it as well. Finally, the masks are coming off and we might see what results from this open alliance in America.
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Post by timothylane on Oct 10, 2020 19:07:16 GMT -8
These attitudes were reflected both in the Hellfire Club and in Alfie P. Doolittle, and in much of the work of William Hogarth, the early 18th Century British artist who espoused middle-class virtues.
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Post by artraveler on Oct 11, 2020 8:52:44 GMT -8
This is the first article I recall ever having seen which points out the assault on the middle class arising from the similarity of behaviors of the rich and poor Charles Murray, author of Bell Curve, has a slightly different take. His work in Coming Apart, suggests that it is the upper income groups, after experimenting with drugs, sex and rock and roll, while in no way conservative have generally returned to traditional values of education, employment and family. While the lower income cohorts have moved further into attitudes that we could call similar to Antifa and BLM. I am not sure I agree but the book does make suggestions over 10 years ago that are coming true today.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 12, 2020 7:43:03 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 12, 2020 7:55:02 GMT -8
Yes, Mr. Flu, nice article about the convergence of the rich and the poor. As you well know, Dalrymple has written of it in Life at the Bottom and other works.
It’s astonishing this phenomenon of the quote “upper class” (I see them as low-lifes) aping and/or otherwise supporting the worst elements in society. Note, I didn’t not say “the poor.” The Left has tried to equate poverty with injustice. But there are all kinds or reasons that people are poor — mainly because they do not adopt the traits and habits of those who are successful — or live in Democrat-controlled strongholds. That said, helping the poor is a universally commendable thing as long as it is real help and not just a way to use them in a cause, as pawns in your own political (or emotional) game. Armchair quarterbacking requires doing no research. It requires only having an opinion. So I’ll give due deference to Charles Murray. But I’m not sure I agree with that formulation either, Artler. I would say that the entire attitude of “sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll” has corrupted entire generations. There is a different sort of society that forms when life is considered all about self-indulgence instead of restraint. And the delegitimization of the latter is what the 60’s (and beyond, before, and still) are all about. The middle class is passé if only because they are, generally speaking, the bastion of normalcy, decency, and honest work. They are the natural enemy of all these clowns. And yet, this middle class has been bamboozled by these clowns. If they don’t elect Trump in a landslide this will show the final suicide of the middle class.
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Post by artraveler on Oct 12, 2020 7:59:35 GMT -8
That should be Déjà Jew There it is fixed.
It is striking that the most peaceful and compliant community in NYC are rebelling. The same thing is happening in Israel. The Haredim are known for defending their community and are not above violence here or in Israel but it takes a lot to provoke them. That both of the democrat, governor and mayor, have created this much civil disobedience is indicative of the inherent anti-semitism in the new democrat party.
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Post by timothylane on Oct 12, 2020 8:01:13 GMT -8
That article has some good points, but there's something else to consider: Orthodox Jews such as the Hasidim of Brooklyn are socially conservative and therefore increasingly vote Republican. Does anyone think that has nothing to do with the vendetta against them by De Blasio and Cuomo?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Oct 12, 2020 8:06:22 GMT -8
As you know, I am simpatico-from-a-distance with these Jews. I won’t pretend that I walk among them. That is, I won’t use them for purposes of virtue signaling. But I’m with them in spirit as much as I can be. And it is heartening to see some of them rebel. It will be more heartening when they stop giving these Democrat clowns their votes without a thought.
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Post by timothylane on Oct 12, 2020 8:21:22 GMT -8
Most Jewish Demagogues seem to be Reform Jews. The Orthodox, being socially conservative, tend to vote Republican. And funny, but they seem to be the group most heavily targeted.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 12, 2020 8:49:09 GMT -8
A nice piece. I especially liked her mentioning the way Jews had been accused of spreading the Black Death and other diseases throughout the Middle Ages. It is truly "Deja Vu" again.
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