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Post by kungfuzu on Nov 4, 2021 15:54:41 GMT -8
I am starting this new string because the Global-Warming criminals have decided to make a major push to "Save the Planet" from the dire results of "Climate Change." I go through newspapers/publications in Taiwan, Hongkong, Great Britain, Switzerland and Singapore everyday. Additionally, I check newspapers in Austria and Germany once or twice a week and those in Japan, India, Malaysia and Thailand every couple of weeks or so. There is a clear and coordinated effort to hammer the dangers of "Climate Change" into the skulls of the sheeple around the world. The farce in Glascow which was supposed to unite the world in finding a way to delay the destruction of the world due to "Climate Change" is just the beginning of a huge push. I warned this was coming and that the KFF fraud was just a dry run for the "Climate Change" tyranny to come. Again, this is all about control and money. I believe the basic impetus is to establish greater control over the world's population. But I also know that huge sums of money will be made by those pushing this fraud. Well, here is the first proof of what I have been saying. If you think the transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich during the KFF fraud was large, you ain't seen nothin' yet. It will only cost $100 trillion |
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Post by kungfuzu on Nov 10, 2021 13:13:27 GMT -8
The insane Greens (communists pretending to be concerned about the environment) are becoming incredibly brazen. They are openly admitting they want to bankrupt small-and-medium-sized energy companies. As always, the left and globalists push for giganticism, which concentrates wealth in ever-diminishing numbers of people, who work with government. I assure everyone that one of the reasons the "climate crisis" is being pushed so fervently is so that a small number of people/companies will be able to make stupendous amounts of money that they otherwise wouldn't earn. Biden nominee is clearly a communist and wants to damage USA |
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Post by Brad Nelson on Nov 11, 2021 9:48:02 GMT -8
I think you're right.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 9, 2022 12:28:05 GMT -8
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 9, 2022 15:15:52 GMT -8
Reading that Washington Post article is instructive. Clearly environmentalism is indeed a religion.
Anything that happens that is not a "normal" 70 degree day with moderate to low winds and moderate to no rainfall with moderate to no polar bears adrift on icebergs is considered evidence of "climate change."
If you read through the comments, you'll run into this several times: Please don't exaggerate. There are enough climate deniers as it is. Sometimes fires start because of a careless match, not "global warming." But climate change is real.
Okay, fine. I would ask those people to walk it back even further to the source and understand that every assertion is baloney.
I contend this hysterical, apocalyptic mindset is driven by women, ungoverned and unconstrained by steadier, fact-oriented male minds. Regardless of the truth of that, we see that a large number of people have bought into the Chicken Little mindset. Nay, they demand that the doom-and-gloom be real.
Calling Dr. Liebermann to try to make sense of this.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 9, 2022 16:22:26 GMT -8
It occurs to me, Mr. Flu (as it has likely occurred to you) that these yutes growing up today ("growing up" in the strictly biological sense) will not:
A) Be able to control the system they are aiding and abetting
B) Understand the system they are aiding and abetting
At one time "civics" was taught in this country, however imperfectly. The American conception of government is that we grant officials temporary power in order that they may protect and defend our rights and property, as well as do things that advance the general welfare (build roads, repair bridges, plow the snow off the road, etc.).
These officials were not expected to produce happiness for us. That was something we were to be left free to pursue. And even while we elected or appointed the necessary officials, we understood that Rule #1 was: Don't trust any of these guys as far as you can throw them. They are a necessary evil, but don't forget about the "evil" part.
Today's Snowflakes (here, in Europe, Australia...about anywhere where the sheep wear masks) have ceded oversight responsibilities in a trade for security and not having to bother about the adult stuff. They will sow what they reap. Look at women's sports. Women are not pushing back against men-pretending-to-be-women who are competing against them.
Not a lot of backbone on display these days. It's hard to know where all this is going. But one thing is very sure: There will be a relatively small minority making more and more fundamental decisions about how people can live.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 9, 2022 17:30:19 GMT -8
I think this is already the case. One only needs to look at the present administration and much of the federal bureaucracy to have proof. The people running things appear to be criminals and educated idiots. They think that having a degree from a certain university confers intelligence upon them. Sadly, this is not the case. It is clear that our once vaunted system of higher education is now little more than a factory which spews out mediocrities all of the same cut.
These people fit the description I came up for some I knew almost 40 years back. I said "their arrogance was only exceeded by their ignorance." In such times are we living.
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Post by artraveler on Jan 9, 2022 20:01:08 GMT -8
Clearly environmentalism is indeed a religion. I had a conversation not long ago with one of the environmental earth is warming folks. They are totally immune from facts. I guess that is what makes them democrats. I finally got frustrated and said, "look, the planet is going to continue on until the sun goes nova in a few billion years. Your problem is you seem to think that is going to happen because of something you have done or not done, get over it, your not that important." I got a shocked look and she went away muttering. |
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 9, 2022 20:48:41 GMT -8
You know, that makes sense. People are high on self-importance as if it were crack cocaine.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 14, 2022 6:48:56 GMT -8
Another example of how the elites are trying to recreate a feudal society, as I have repeatedly warned. Note, that before the French Revolution, the nobility and Church were largely free from taxes. The burden fell on everyone beneath them in the pecking order. Do you see any similarities here? Climate change is just another scam for the rich and powerful |
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 14, 2022 9:45:46 GMT -8
The primary problem is to get the rank-and-file to push back. I was talking to a few of my brother's gaming-group friends last night about the Wuhann Flu. There was zero sense of outrage over the lies and overreach. They were all just compliant. Funny that the professed libertarian there snarled when I mentioned Elon Musk. I didn't dig down to why he felt this way because he's a rather unhinged libertarian. In fact, I would say his libertarianism is just a way for him to psychologically dodge the fact that he is basically a liberal.
But none of these guys had anything bad to say about what was going on regarding the lockdowns, lies, etc. Amazing.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 14, 2022 13:22:16 GMT -8
Interesting reaction. Musk used to be their hero. Perhaps the dimwits have figured out that Musk is anything but a libertarian and has made his billions on back of the government. Of course, this information has been out there for years, but most libertarians are a bit slow, or live in Never-Never Land and only occasionally return to reality.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 14, 2022 13:28:57 GMT -8
Not sure. No offense intended to our resident Libertarian (and I'm also a yuge fan of Rand Paul), but now that this ideologically fantastico (although he's a nice guy otherwise) doesn't like Musk, I'm drawn toward him a bit.
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Post by artraveler on Jan 15, 2022 9:01:48 GMT -8
No offense intended to our resident Libertarian None taken. There are several species of Libertarian, unfortunately the most crazed make the news and the sober ones do not. A true Libertarian believes very much the same as most conservatives. The difference is often in the amount of freedom not the freedom itself. There is a lot of talk about individual freedom but when confronted with a free individual many people recoil. In the sprit of Libertarianism I offer the following that true Libertarians and I think most conservative would agree. Call it the 10 commandments of Libertarianism. 1. Libertarians seek the maximum freedom for every person, but understand freedom has responsibilities and that regulation of society is the grease that makes human relations work. 2. Libertarians accept that government is a necessary evil, but as Tom Paine said, "government is best which governs least." 3. Libertarians treasure the free market and exchange of product between individuals with a minimum of government interference. 4. Libertarians believe that adults are capable of making good and bad decisions and should suffer consequences of the bad and reward for the good. Libertarian live their life for no one else and do not expect anyone to live for them 5. Libertarians believe that humans are capable of the purest grace and beauty, but also the most degraded and defamed. 6. Libertarians accept that the universe is complicated and the presence of a Devine hand is not impossible, but unprovable except by faith. 7. Libertarians believe that life is precious and that exactly how and when it begins in the womb is questionable, but is surely is there when a heartbeat is detected, making abortion a crime against the most defenseless. 8. Libertarians believe that each individual is responsible for their own health and the defense of their person from threats by any means necessary. 9. Libertarians accept that adults should decide how to use their bodies and the drugs they chose to use, or not use but at all times bear the responsibility for those decisions. 10. Libertarians believe that government should not interfere in the economy other than to provide a fair marketplace for business to contract. Thus, contracts are the chief legal basis for society. |
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 15, 2022 10:09:15 GMT -8
That's the Ayn Rand influence showing up in that second sentence (I agree with the first). Rand seems to present it as an extreme either/or. Either you are an atomized, self-reliant, independent person or you're a stooge for the totalitarian state. Given the cold, childless woman she was, I can sort of understand why she said what she said.
But these quibbles are irrelevant give today's realities. We can split hairs later once we've killed the 1000 pound furry beast.
I would say that there are about 3 or 4 libertarians, outside of you, who would actually live that. Nor do most libertarians have a sense of the Law of Graffiti which is that ugly blotches on our society that are allowed to remain tend to attract more. Drugs are a special case. They turn a person into a zombie. There is no way to be a libertarian (infused with the zest for freedom) while being degraded by, and beholden to, a drug.
But most of the list I completely agree with.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 15, 2022 10:16:05 GMT -8
I see this list as aspirational. An individual might try to live according to these tenets, but a society cannot survive based on the hope that people seek self-responsibility, much less attain it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 15, 2022 10:22:20 GMT -8
Which is why to be a useful libertarian, and not a dilettante, means you need to be involved in religion and civic organizations. They are the only things that can take up the slack of the nanny state. Sitting home and getting stoned will not pave the way to a smaller state.
The ginormous welfare state we have now (including the racial victimization state) induces the opposite of self-responsibility. We should tear that apparatus apart. But we also have to know that unless you want to live in a complete state of nature (which seems to be the libertarian ideal), you have to be able to guide and take care of those who are in need of spiritual and/or financial help.
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Post by artraveler on Jan 15, 2022 11:13:03 GMT -8
I see this list as aspirational. Well of course it is. We aspire to live up to the Ten Commandments but daily fail, but we still honor our parents, try not to covet our neighbor or his wife and raise our children to do the same. The failure to live up to our expectations is a human condition. The idea that there are better ways to live our lives is also a part of the human condition. The failure of leftists is not entirely their philosophy, but the idea that failure to live up to their ideals is a failure that can never be fixed. The progressive leftist is much more puritanical than the strictest Puritan. |
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Post by kungfuzu on Jan 15, 2022 11:17:53 GMT -8
I think the failure of leftists, as well as libertarians, is not so much the failure to live up to their puritanical ideals, but to try and apply these to politics and a broad-based government instead of keeping them in the private sphere.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jan 15, 2022 11:37:30 GMT -8
It was the optimistic belief espoused by the Founders (particularly Madison, I believe) who proposed that man could successfully be self-governed.
The only alternative is a King, Emperor, Sultan, Chief, or Nannyzilla.
I do believe the Founders were optimistic. And their views were necessarily aspirational. We needed to believe (and live up to) a certain standard for the American Experiment to work. All the Founders agreed on this point. ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." – John Adams).
That is: government cannot be the primary solution. It is the expression of our better natures and aspirations. But something must come before it and always be the foundation of it.
That's all gone in the shit-can now. But we should relearn these things.
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