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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 14, 2022 20:15:24 GMT -8
Death Sits Down to Dinner (Lady Montfort Mystery Series Book 2) Set in 1913 in England, this novel includes the characters of several real people, including Winston Churchill. At his 39th birthday party, things happen. The party was held at Chester Square in London, home of Hermione Kingsley who is well known for founding and running the most renowned charity in Britain. Lady Montfort and her husband attended the party as well. They are very high up in the social circle. Lady Montfort (a la Miss Marple) has been known to involve herself in police investigations on the sly, inserting herself often against her husband's wishes and usually with some mild tolerance by the police. She is aided by the extremely capable Mrs. Jackson, housekeeper (on par with a butler in rank) at Iyntwood, Lord Monfort's country estate in Buckinghamshire. The novel can get a little chatty for my taste. And I wouldn't call the ending stellar. But you are absorbed into this period to the extent that it's mostly interesting. Churchill is a sideline character, but he does make what seems like a Churchillian appearance when he does intersect the novel. That I read it (and finished it) is testament that it is at least a readable detective novel. Pickings are slim out there. I might try another one at a future date.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 16, 2022 18:45:38 GMT -8
I'm about 3/5 of the way through the fourth book in this mystery series: Death of an Unsung HeroThis was the first book I read. I got about 1/3 of the way into it. Then I got bored. I picked up Death Sits Down to Dinner later, completely by chance. The fact that Mr. Churchill was a character in it made me give it a try. But I didn't immediately realize that it was another in the series of books. But because this one was readable, I went back and am trying to finish this other one. I've watched my share of Upstairs/Downstairs, Downton Abbey, and Masterpiece Theatre. I think I could have been a good butler...or at least a footman. I've absorbed the details involved in service over the years. But one detail I wasn't aware of pertains to the Mrs. Jackson character who is the housekeeper of Lord and Lady Montfort. Mrs. Jackson isn't married. But because of her status as the housekeeper, she is given the honorary title of "Mrs." I'd never run into that before. Jackson herself is intelligent but cool, even sexless. She seems to have every intention of devoting herself to service and forgoing anything as messy or distracting as a relationship. But in Death Sits Down to Dinner (book 2), we do see the threads of a relationship possibly blossoming for her. But in this fourth book, there is no mention of the young lad. Basically in Death of an Unsung Hero the Great War is in full swing. Lady Montfort is running a cutting-edge medical home at (I think) one of her homes in the country. Mrs. Jackson has been requisitioned (perhaps officially via the medical corp) as top day-to-day operations officer. They treat shell-shock victims and others with psychological damage. Here's an overall from an Amazon reviewer: And despite the obvious backing of the war department, they still face much opposition. Many view these soldiers as cowards or slackers. It's pretty harsh. But I'd say a fair, and certainly sympathetic, case is made for those who have been damaged mentally in the war. They've had much success getting men back to the front lines. One reviewer says the soldiers were suffering form "PTSD." But that seems to me to be a modern buzzword without much meaning. It wasn't really "post" and it certainly wasn't "stress" they were suffering. I think only ignorant, and slightly oily, civilians need these terms to make themselves seem sympathetic. But unless you've been in the trenches with these guys, I think we should save our acronyms. They have faced hell and been overcome by it, at least to some extent. Many find their way back...only to return to the trenches again. Can't imagine.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 16, 2022 19:32:28 GMT -8
After your previous review, I picked up "Death of a Dishonorable Gentleman" which is the first book in the series. I am about 70-or-so pages into it. The author goes into great detail describing the state of things at Iyntwood. I like it when authors "set the mood" for their stories and I like detail, but I found that the author was on the edge of overdoing it badly. Thankfully, she moved on just as I was about to chuck it.
Since that point, things have livened up and I will continue reading.
There is something similar in German. Past a certain age, it was common to address a woman as Frau so-and-so. I can understand that as I just can't see addressing a 70-year-old spinster as Fraulein.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2022 8:16:31 GMT -8
Well, I found the same error as in the Ian Rutledge novels. The author tends to spend way too much time playing what-if. But I will say that there is more coherence to the Monfert novels in this regard. They do at least carefully eliminate one suspect at a time and make progress. The Rutledge novels tend to often spin in an eyes-glazed-over rotating repetition.
In Death of an Unsung Hero, we're down to perhaps two possible murderers (possibly working in tandem as well). But there are enough holes left that even this isn't known for sure.
Some marvelously brave writing here and there by Tessa Arlen as she notes (through the character of Mrs. Jackson) how snowflake-like many of the helper girls are at the hospital. Darn, she sounds like me at times in regards to their emotional narcissism. Jackson notes that city girls aren't at all prepared to handle what they need to do. And there is apparently some solid historical context referenced in the book. Apparently many of the city girls went completely goo-goo during the war at the mere sight of a man in a uniform. Apparently no small amount of a virtual wall had to be built between the soldiers and these vacuous women.
We see that reflected in real life. You would definitely want your country run by a 4-H girl rather than some over-delicate Progressive bubble-girl of a municipal mono-cultural swamp.
It sometimes doesn't take much to keep me going. Throw me a small bone. That's all I ask. And Mrs. Jackson has done that in this one.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 17, 2022 9:59:22 GMT -8
Nothing like that so far in this book, and I am at page 169. (The book is less than 300 pages long.) In fact, till now there is no indication of who the murderer might be, except for some worrying by Lady Montfort.
The author only touches on this point in Lady Monfort's thoughts. The internal discussion there is due to the fact that her son Harry had a violent argument with the victim the afternoon before the victim was murdered. Lady Monfort really does overdo the worry that Harry might have killed the victim or, if not that, be a suspect in the case. I found some real contradictions in this position, given the glowing description of the son by Lady Monfort and others. If he is such a wonderful young man, as everyone seems to agree, why all the concern? We will see.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2022 11:36:14 GMT -8
They flesh out Harry much more in Death of an Unsung Hero. Harry, a flyer (of course), is injured and comes back home for some recuperation time. His mother worries about him because he drinks...a lot. And is bored. Just slightly surly as well.
In Death Sits Down to Dinner (the one with Churchill in it), we see the conflict erupt between Harry and his parents. Harry (apparently like a lot of elder sons of the nobility in his age) is bored by the thought of managing an estate and carrying on those traditions. He wants to fly. And this is in the era where flying (even outside of wartime) was very dangerous. Harry is also pals with his friend, Sopwith, who designs these things.
Interesting that in Death of a Dishonorable Gentleman that there isn't a lot of back-and-forth speculation of "who done it." That definitely got tiring in Death of an Unsung Hero but finally settled down a bit after the initial intensive sifting, trying to establish where everyone was, etc. In Death Sits Down to Dinner the same thing. It tends to be a bit much. It's better when a murder mystery has more dimensions to it.
In Death of a an Unsung Hero, we get into the changing of the times as daughter, Althea, is slutting around a bit with one of the soldiers in their care...at least as her mother sees it. It is not right that someone of her class go on an unchaperoned picnic with this guy, etc.
It's easy for anyone in our age to tut-tut and poo-poo such outmoded ideas. And yet I think there's a lot to be said for a parent being careful that her daughter doesn't slut around and get herself in trouble. It's what they used to call parenting.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 17, 2022 12:19:45 GMT -8
About half-way through "Death of a Dishonorable Gentleman" Harry asks his mother for her support with convincing Lord Montfort to allow Harry to take flying lessons. She is appalled and against the idea and lets him know he has many responsibilities which should make him think twice about taking the risk of flying. Harry's friend Sopwith is mentioned in passing.
Perhaps this is because they spend much of their time trying to find two girls who have gone missing. One is an aristocrat and the other is third house maid.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 17, 2022 13:56:08 GMT -8
Just a few pages left of an Death of an Unsung Hero. It got me thinking that it would probably be a marketable prospect to offer writers a service for how to end a novel. Maybe "Kung and Nelson Literary Consultants."
This was another one that got kind of dopey. You may or may not read this novel in the future so I won't give too much away. But basically they (Harry, Mother, and Mrs. Jackson) leave on a fast two-hour trip to talk to an ex-soldier in order tie up some loose ends. But they don't bother before they go to tell their daughter, Althea, that the man who has been giving her much attention is likely a ruthless murderer.
Okay. An oversight. Hmm. Strange for a mother who obsesses over a son who wants to fly planes. When they come back from their fact-finding trip, the harvest festival is in full swing, They all immediately look for Althea and the suspect, afraid for her life.
They soon are told that Althea and the suspect are off together in the barn looking at a horse. No problem. The man shouldn't be a danger to anyone because he means to be a member of polite society, after all. So they go to the barn. The mother say, "Come, Althea. So-and-so wants you to sing a song with them." No prob. No reason for the murder to suspect a thing. But then the writer (mirroring one of the dumb girls she has criticized) stuffs completely stupid and artificial words into Althea's mouth (Oh...you just got back from finding out who the murderer is? Hope you had a nice trip to Cheltenham) so that now the murderer (who is from Cheltenham) is in no doubt that he has been found out. A hostage-taking quickly ensues and I'm rooting for this guy to dispatch Althea. That will teach her.
Dreadfully clumsy writing at the end, far worse than I've indicated. But that is hardly unusual these days. I'm amazed that so many otherwise satisfactory writers have such a hard time with endings.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 17, 2022 14:57:14 GMT -8
That would be a very expensive writers service. Logical and believable endings are probably the most difficult aspect of writing a novel. I think coming up with such endings would be worth between 30% and 50% of the value of the book.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 19, 2022 14:42:43 GMT -8
I finished "Death of a Dishonorable Gentleman" last night and have the following to report. Once the reader gets past the first 50-60 pages of "setting the atmosphere" which moves at a snail's pace due to too many adjectives, the book became very good.
The story revolves around the murder of Teddy Mallory, nephew of Lord and Lady Montfort. Teddy is a scoundrel and, by the end of the book, the only wonder is that he had not been murdered at an earlier date.
The murder is bad enough, but it occurred during the night of Lady Montfort's yearly ball, which was attended by some of the most prominent families of Great Britain.
The local Head Constable takes charge, but has to bring in Scotland Yard in the form of Chief Inspector Ewan, who is a clod.
While the police ruffle aristocratic feathers by questioning everyone who happened to be in the house the day of the murder, both up--and-down stairs, Lady Montfort, and Mrs. Jackson the housekeeper, start looking into the case.
In the end, these two solve the murder and help with the solution to some other crimes which have taken place nearby.
Lord Montfort takes the responsibility of confronting the murderer. He points out that no matter how justified the murder might have been, it was against the law. At this end of this encounter, the author uses a little history to express how how deeply the old landed families were connected to the development of common law in England. She writes, in my opinion, the best lines in the book.
"The first Baron of Mountsford had been present at the signing of Magna Carta, which had led to the rule of constitutional law in England. Laws had been written and refined over the centuries, laws that people of Lord Montfort's education and background had worked hard to instill and maintain. Without law, without order, England would just be France.
It is hard to beat that last sentence.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 19, 2022 15:07:32 GMT -8
Good, 'cause I started it last night. I'm maybe 20 pages into it. It's the morning of the party and they are involved in last-minute preparations.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2022 9:35:31 GMT -8
There's no spoiler here for Mr. Flu because he has finished the book. We'll title this spoiler:
Teddy Needed a Good Whoopin'
In one or both of the books that I've read, it mentions that the thrust of the first investigation was to absolve Harry of a murder. And if he had killed cousin Teddy, they could have wrapped up the book right there. Instead of a murder investigation there would be been a ribbon-cutting ceremony. Teddy needed a good killing.
The only point that strains credulity is that the family had connections with their nephew/cousin, even into adulthood. We'll allow a little literary license. But it seems certain that the family would have distanced themselves from this malignant character years ago...instead of inviting him to a garden party.
Even Clementine admitted:
A mother who recognized this aspect in Teddy would never have let her anywhere near her children while they were growing up, nephew or no nephew.
But there is obviously more to the story...and maybe more deaths ahead. But few will mourn the loss of Teddy.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 20, 2022 11:35:24 GMT -8
I'm not so sure. Teddy was only about 20 years old, but he was a precocious criminal. The extent of his perfidy was not known to, or imagined by, the family. Add to that that he was off at Oxford for most of the year. Prior to Oxford, he would have, no doubt, attended one of the many British public schools as a boarding student. This being the case, Teddy would have been out of the house by the time he was 10 or 11 years old, probably earlier. Of course, he would have been back during the holidays. Finally, even the best of families can be, and probably generally are, prone to ignoring the problematic behavior of relatives. Best thing is to be quite and hope they go away. Lord Montfort would seem to be of this mind. He felt he had a duty to raise the boy, but found Teddy a distasteful person. I suspect that once Teddy left Oxford, the family would have less contact with him. They would have fulfilled familial obligations and the rest would have been up to Teddy. Maybe he would disappear somewhere in the empire. By the way, one thing which caught my notice was that the word "dishonorable" in the title is spelled in the American way. Surely, it should have been spelled "dishonourable" in the English manner, particularly as the story takes place in 1912 England at an aristocrats home. I guess the author or publishers were thinking of the American market.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2022 11:44:05 GMT -8
Harry later tells his mother:
Well, another sign that even Harry knew how malignant Teddy was. This could not have been much of a family secret.
You see, that is the essence of good writing. There should have been a passage spoken (or thought) by Clementine that laid out exactly what you wrote. (That is, indeed, what writing is supposed to be about, to elucidate a character.) It would have given some context and believability to the Teddy character. He just seemed way too skimmed-over, at least in the early part of the book. I didn't for once believe that this highly upright upper-crust family would have so easily harbored a sociopath.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 20, 2022 12:01:47 GMT -8
It might not have been much of a secret to the children, but Harry's "only later" mentioning to his mother that she did not know how corrupt Teddy was, is an indication that the parents didn't have a good idea of what a rotter Teddy actually was. I agree that Teddy was not very developed as a character, but that did not bother me much. I saw him as similar to the body in "The Trouble with Harry," a literary device required for the plot, but not much more.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2022 12:06:03 GMT -8
Maybe something like that. Just two paragraphs could explain a lot.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 20, 2022 12:19:18 GMT -8
Those two paragraphs would have done nicely. I particularly liked "the inflaming chemistry of puberty." But for whatever reason, the author seemed to want to stretch out the question of Teddy's character. The whole mystery of the disappearance of the two girls initially left open the idea that perhaps Teddy had something to do with that. It was the first and only hint that he might be more than just a blackmailer. As to people knowing those around them are sociopaths, here is someone who might make you question that premise. I have always found this very scary. BTK
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2022 13:43:37 GMT -8
There once was a fellow named Teddy For Iyntwood house he was not ready The Lord lived in a fog About his cruelty to dogs For a gibbet our Teddy was heading
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 20, 2022 13:46:36 GMT -8
Sounds like your typical teenage transgender. I don't see what all the fuss it about. But, seriously, because of the acceptance of bizarre behavior (sexual or otherwise), I would think it would be very easy for a Rader to hide in and operate in this world. Not a comforting thought.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 21, 2022 8:45:15 GMT -8
The third housemaid, Violet Simkins, and Lucinda Lambert-Lambert-Lambert-Lambert, have gone missing. I may have one too many "Lamberts" in there. Which brings up a question for Mr. Flu-Flu: Why do some of the British upper crust have these pretentious hyphenated (or conjoined) last names? A famous example is Miss Sainsbury Seale of the Poirot story, "One, Two, Buckle My Shoe." In particular, why "Lambert-Lambert"? It seems somewhat Monty Pythonesque. A quick Googling brings up an entry at IMDB: Okay. Fine. I didn't suppose it was a feminist thing like it is today. But I still don't know why the "Lambert-Lambert." Wiki has some more to say on the subject: We might make use of this aspect for our own uses, such as: Pelosi Libtard-Libtard or Justin Hitler-Nazi or Romney Rino-Rino
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