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Post by artraveler on May 30, 2022 5:21:46 GMT -8
VDH comments on the current state of affairs in Ukraine and the Wests response to Russia. amgreatness.com/2022/05/29/what-now-ukraine/In sum, as Ukraine is flooded with superior arms, and as its more competent troops make astounding gains, the conflict will turn not on saving Ukraine from Russia—that is now largely done. Rather, very soon the war will hinge on whether the victorious Ukrainians have a mandate to change the verdict of 2014 and expel all Russians from its soil, by methods including air and sea attacks on Russian assets inside Russia and in international waters.
But in a practical sense, we are on new ground, where, even if justifiably, a non-nuclear Western ally will now seek to destroy a nuclear Russia’s assets on Russian soil or in neutral or even Russian seas.
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 30, 2022 5:49:42 GMT -8
This is a weird situation where the guy with nuclear weapons gets to rape, murder, and torture but there is probably necessarily restraint in how far you can go in attacking him. Frankly, I'd love a Doolittle-like raid on Moscow. Blow the fuck out of Lenin's tomb. But that probably wouldn't be productive for the Ukranians.
That's well summed-up by VDH, as well as his indictment of Biden. The best outcome is the assassination of Putin at this point...or simply somehow deposing him from within. Good article by VDH.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 27, 2022 8:29:53 GMT -8
VDH is not in a positive reflective mood. He doesn't come out and say it, but he, like us, sees a much larger problem that can be, but won't, be solved. amgreatness.com/2022/06/26/america-is-more-fragile-than-the-left-understands/Our elites assume that all our nation’s past violent protests, all its would-be revolutions, all its cultural upheavals, all its institutionalized lawlessness were predicated on one central truth—America’s central core is so strong, so rich, and so resilient that it can withstand almost any assault.
America, as the world’s only successful multiracial democratic republic, was always fragile. It was and is always one generation away from disappearing—should any cohort become so foolish as to mock its past, dismantle its institutions, revert to tribalism, redistribute rather than create wealth, and consume rather than invest.
The most terrifying is that our once-great cities, especially their downtowns, will simply shrink into something like ghost towns—our versions of an out-West Bodie, or an abandoned Roman city in the sand like Leptis Magna, or a Chernobyl.
But again, the culprit is not the COVID plague or want of money. It is us, we who turned over our cities to the incompetent, the selfish, the timid, and the violent.
Joe Biden took a strong economy—albeit one that after three serial spendthrift presidencies faced huge national debt and a rendezvous with fiscal sobriety—and has utterly ruined it.
Yet nature is about to step in with a recession and perhaps even a depression to correct the Biden madness.
We are reaching the inflection point quickly and will either experience the absolute destruction of the border or a radical backlash, given that the current mess is unsustainable. Either a nation with borders survives or a tribal and nomadic region supplants it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 27, 2022 10:53:17 GMT -8
That's a very important thought. We've talked about this before. For instance, not doing away with something until you know what function it serves. The "liberal" idea is that you can just punch through any wall with no thought of supporting beams and structures.
And I put "liberal" in quotes because you don't have to be a hard-core Leftist to believe this. I think anyone who has went to college in order to become "educated" has had indoctrinated into the idea that pushing for change, any change, is always a good thing. Only fools or grumpy old men worry about whether any particular wall is a load-bearing wall or not.
I've had these conversations with people who hate Leftists, hate Hillary Clinton, and yet fundamentally believe that all change is for the better. If not in the short term it is in the long-term because it keeps us "dynamic." It's what America is all about, they say.
But I always make the very careful distinction between markets (products) and principles. Yeah, sure, the next revision of a computer is bound to be better (but not inevitably so). But some principles are timeless and you can't expect to dispense with them just because you're bored or enamored with change.
Leave it to VDH to be one of the few to get to the essence of things.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 27, 2022 11:26:44 GMT -8
This is a highly interesting subject to me, and one we've spoken about before: Are cities the paragon of civilization or a concentration of its excesses?
I've read a few books about the breakout of typhoid and other diseases in cities. There's a reasonably good one about some doctor trying to track down the specific bad water that is causing typhoid in some English town (or portion of London). I forget the name of the book.
We all know that the first "sewers" were the streets. People would just toss out their crap quite literally. And when you look at the mess of "homeless" shantytowns, it's hard not to imagine that we are regressing (or at least that cities are regressing).
Here VDH has come out and declared, it seems, that this is no narrow internet rant or meme. This is a real thing happening. I'm not the one to measure trends by, but there's no way I would ever willingly go to Seattle again. Not only do I not want to expose myself to their "homeless" mess but I have no wish to reward Seattle with even one dollar of my money.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 27, 2022 16:39:33 GMT -8
Are cities the paragon of civilization or a concentration of its excesses? An excellent question. As a historian I favor the idea that civilization could only develop in an urban environment. Until the last 20 years I would still strongly favor cities as the epitome of human civilization. It was in cities that neolithic man found the leisure time to think about issues, great and small. It was in cities that political power could be gathered for common defense, and common projects. it was in cities that individuals could specialize in singular crafts. Rural life, on the other hand, was constantly filled with drama over the weather, pests destroying crops, and roving bands of bandits putting families at risk. It was in cities that armies were organized and detailed to protect the farmers in rural areas. It was city engineers who developed the technology to bring watery to farms. It was in cities that methods of combating crop destroying pests was developed. It was in cities that methods of storing excess product for future use developed. Today in 2022 a major portion of the value of cities can be returned to the country. The internet, as has been shown over the last two years, provides a tool allowing individuals to live outside of cities. The work of the farm is increasingly become technology centered and one man with the proper tools can manage hundreds of acres of land. Over time it seems to me, cities will become centers of production. Some will be generalists and others will specialize but will require fewer employees. A car production line might be run by a few hundred staff instead of a few thousand. A busy port might see a container ship unloaded by a handful of longshoremen/women operating advanced equipment. The center of government could be dispersed to the outer rim of the cities with many satellite offices including courts. What then of today's city centers? A good question the massive centralized facilities will no longer be economical or useful. It is possible that city centers could return to their original rural status? Or will the endemic homeless tent communities just spread? I wonder is anyone else giving the future of cities any thought?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 27, 2022 18:05:20 GMT -8
Well, you certainly are. That was a wonderful bit of exposition. Having seen bits of all sides, I would choose the small town over anything else. You get some of the benefits of a city without the "rats in a cage" aspect. And the country is usually only minutes away.
Farms are great, although that's not a job everyone can handle. But there is authenticity on a farm that you're not going to find in a city. Life and death is real there. A stillborn calf can't be written off as "a mass of tissue." Food is precious because growing it can be so fragile.
Country life (in country houses) is grand as well. Why anyone would want to live cramped in a city when they could sit out on the back porch and contemplate life through pastoral scenes on your own half acre is beyond me. I think cities are often little more than extensions of ego, the wish to identify with something bigger than yourself. That's probably why so much goofy shit is given a pass (including tent cities of the homeless). It's not about making sense. Nonsense doesn't matter as long as I can identify as a sophisticated urbanite.
Obviously certain jobs exist in the city that don't exist elsewhere. But you make a great point about the internet and the dispersal of cities. There is no good reason on God's green earth that anyone need fear for their lives and/or have to navigate around human feces on their way to or from work. You can work in a suburb or often from your home.
It should be noted too that VDH has also written often about the blight in rural areas of California. This kind of Leftist corruption is not confined to the cities, at least in CA. But whereas cities have in the last few centuries been considered the jewels of civilization, you have to wonder if we're in the middle of a shifting trend. Given the digital age, we really don't need to be crammed into skyscraper boxes and live somewhat inhuman lives of overcrowding.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 27, 2022 19:36:40 GMT -8
I would tend to agree with you, all things being equal. But I have heard it said that too many of these small towns are not really friendly to outsiders and one has to have three generations in the local cemetery to be considered a native. Perhaps things have changed.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 28, 2022 6:56:55 GMT -8
You know, you may have something there. I guess we should stipulate the definition of "small town." I live in a "small town" of about 38,000. I would think 10,000 to 40,000 would put you in a nice range. Large enough for various expected amenities and to avoid the "outsiders" effect. But small enough not to be basically rats running in a maze.
And then you have the suburb which can kinda-sorta be a smallish town outside of the city proper. And maybe this is all a giant waffle and rationalization. Home is where the heart is, and all that.
But my mother came from a truly small town called Clallam Bay. This is the kind of very small town where everyone knows everyone else's business. No, that wouldn't be for me. And then you have larger cities such as Spokane (230,000) which is spread out enough and has various logical sub-regions that you can live in a neighborhood (as my sister did) that had a smallish-town feel to it. I could live there but would never want to live in Seattle.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 28, 2022 8:27:36 GMT -8
But I have heard it said that too many of these small towns are not really friendly to outsiders and one has to have three generations in the local cemetery to be considered a native. That is certainly true more in the South, I think, than in the west or north. Although, the clannishness of New England small towns is noteworthy. In the South when your neighbors refer to you or some other newcomer as a "good O'l boy". It means you are accepted as part of the local population. If you have southern roots coming from the West or North it makes settling easier, but neighbors will refer to you as being from off for at least 20 years. The one thing that will mark you as an outsider, perhaps for generations, is a haughty, condescending attitude. I suppose that goes just about everywhere, but in the South it just means you are a dangerous radical and to be shunned.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 28, 2022 10:27:40 GMT -8
You might be hard-pressed to find three generations in the cemetery in the Northwest. We are a very transient people...that's why we have so many transients, hobos, vagrants, and drifters on the sidewalks in Seattle and Portland.
We marvel at the "old" (Victorian) buildings in Port Townsend. But you probably have older outhouses in your neck of the woods.
I do have roots in Georgia and Virginia on my mother's side. (My mother was named "Georgia." Her sister was "Virginia.") I know that one set of great-grandparents lived there. Apparently my great-grandfather owned at least a moderate-sized dairy and at one point was supplying the Confederacy with a lot of milk products.
In the Northwest, it means you work at one of the tech companies.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jun 28, 2022 10:55:50 GMT -8
I was thinking of a particular comment made to me from an outsider who had moved to the South, when I wrote what I did.
This tight-knitted attitude gives rise to a certain conformity which I find somewhat stifling. Of course, like in Japan, you can get some real characters arising from those who do not fit in. But in America, there was always the West and such characters could debunk thence. No such luck in Japan.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 28, 2022 11:20:52 GMT -8
A few thoughts on conscription. When there is no war the zeal for military service always falls short of the military planners projected needs. Conscription is a mixed blessing. During the 30s and up to Dec. 1941 in place of military conscription the Roosevelt Administration set up WPA and CCC work camps. In form they were molded on military bases. large numbers of men from all over the country were thrown together, given three hots and a cot and directed to a goal, clear a forest of underbrush, build a rock wall and so on. Some of these men had severe social problems, some were drunks, or drug users, but the majority were just out of work. Almost all were lower to middling middle class who were confronting poverty for the first time in their lives. The work experience in the WPA and CCC camps produced a consensus that they were all Americans, had a common heritage as Americans, even the newest immigrant.
When we went to war in 41 the military had hundreds of thousands of men accustomed to the regime of camp life and shared goals. It must have made the first troops of enlistee and draftees more amenable to military service. It is possible to say the Roosevelt Administration saw war coming and planned the WPA and CCC to be a pre train ground for the war effort, but I doubt they thought that far ahead.
We can counter a lot of the woke agenda with universal conscription even if some of it follows the WPA/CCC example. I won't even take a deep breath and hold it waiting.
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Post by artraveler on Jun 28, 2022 11:36:50 GMT -8
You might be hard-pressed to find three generations in the cemetery in the Northwest. In some respects that is becoming true in the South, although, Southerners were/are also very mobile. My GG grandfather was from Georgia, joined with the Georgia militia in about 1812/13 and was at NO with Jackson he later settled in NE Arkansas, got a land grant in SE Arkansas in 1836 and in 1850 moved to Mississippi. He spent a couple of years in Alabama and after the war lived in Mississippi until about 1870 when he died. Where upon his son moved the entire family to Hot Springs AR in about 1890. On my grandmother's side of the family the story is much the same except they ended up in Oklahoma and Texas. My grandmother is buried in Paris TX. Her father and mother are buried in Scott County AR. and various aunts and uncles are buried in OK, TX, CA, AZ, MO, IN, KY, TN.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jun 28, 2022 12:50:34 GMT -8
This is exactly the type of thing that the "homeless" should be conscripted into. There should be a works program for them.
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Post by artraveler on Jul 18, 2022 7:22:57 GMT -8
More wisdom from VDH amgreatness.com/2022/07/17/biden-and-the-destruction-of-wisdom/Each time Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Merrick Garland, Antony Blinken, Deb Haaland, Janet Yellen, Lloyd Austin, Pete Buttigieg, Alejandro Mayorkas, or Jennifer Granholm speaks to the public, the people concludes two things: these people are either crazy, incompetent, or ignorant of ancient human nature, and they were appointed to their positions for reasons that have nothing to do with either experience or competence.
And the result is the rapid destruction of most wisdom as we once knew it.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2022 7:52:44 GMT -8
I hope I'm not being pedantic. VDH is certainly no rube. But one astonishing admission that Dennis Prager made a few years ago was when he admitted that it wasn't just a difference in means to a goal that separated the right and left. It was the goals themselves.
I don't really believe that. But, if true, Trump needs to run, not walk, to Kung, Artler, and Nelson for political advice. Anyone with a solid and consistent message that played to the above point could be president...or Senator or House member, for that matter.
Yep.
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Post by artraveler on Jul 19, 2022 9:55:28 GMT -8
Nearly two out of three Americans in some polls hold unfavorable views of the Biden Administration. They fear that it is decoupled from both the past and reality, and quite capable of destroying their lives as they have known them. The problem is for us, and all more moderates is that it is hard to believe that the democrat party, which has been a part of the political landscape for 200 years is no longer an American institution. It is run by communists, socialists, greenies and a whole raft of insane political ideas drafted by even more insane, over educated, privileged, morons who have never held a job requiring them to produce, nor have they ever had to make a payroll. We must admit to friends, family and all about us that the democrat party is completely involved in the destruction of our civilization and will do anything to destroy our country. Am I being alarmist? Well, the redcoats are coming, perhaps alarm is necessary.
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Post by kungfuzu on Jul 19, 2022 10:36:47 GMT -8
This problem is not confined to the democrat party. Seeing things as they truly are takes observation, an open mind and thought. Most people do not seem much interested in using these in their lives. It has been my experience that a very large number of Americans are particularly bad at all of them.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Jul 19, 2022 10:50:05 GMT -8
Pinkcoats. But why quibble?
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