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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 27, 2019 10:24:04 GMT -8
I thought this was a pretty good article by Max C. Eden from National Review: The Latest Education-Policy Fad Amounts to Social and Emotional EngineeringYou needn’t read this. There’s nothing new here except for the unusual fact of running into a writer with eyes wide open. I suspect David French and Kevin Williamson will denounce him for something or other. But here are a couple particularly good bits: We’re already seeing this, not just in children but adults, 60 and older. Normal life stuff is being redefined as a mental health issue, a “safety” issue, or (as is so often the case) the fault of ingrained racism, sexism, whatever-ism. The author actually uses the word “coddling." How dare he. More eyes-wide-open stuff: |
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Post by timothylane on Aug 27, 2019 10:52:53 GMT -8
Michael Barone has pointed out a tendency for America to swing between therapeutic and disciplinary approaches to problems (basically, Mommy and Daddy parties). We're obviously very deep in a therapeutic swing, and it's getting to be time to head back to increased discipline. This may depend on whether Trump wins next year, because the Demagogues will never swing back (except to punish thoughtcrime, of course).
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 27, 2019 11:25:32 GMT -8
I really don’t see any swinging back. Let me give you this next anecdote. And it’s not meant to be putting anyone down. I’m just observing.
But when I see the son of a conservative who looks like he’s little more than an Eloi, that is worrisome. (And, no, I’m not talking about Pat. His son is a Marine.)
It does little good to talk big about bacon, guns, free speech, individualism, and the American flag if you’re letting this girly-man culture turn your male children into effeminate Elois.
What we can do is watch in amusement from the sidelines as this New Weird Order tries to handle things such as men competing in women’s sports, etc. But the days of discipline are gone. But overturning that order? All one can really do is sit back and comment on it.
I do think the West will implode, and sooner than we think. Russian and China will be there to pick up the pieces. And they might not want those pieces. Why would anyone want to manage the problems of Europe when Muslims are finally ascendent? Yes, this is looking a bit forward. But I think one can safely do so because I don’t think there are a pair of testicles in the West who are going to stand up to feminism….which is at the root of all this. Nature abhors a vacuum and Islam will be there in Europe to suck that culture up.
In America, we're a bit too big to give any precise forecast. But I foresee Civil War in the next 30 years.
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Post by artraveler on Aug 27, 2019 12:59:51 GMT -8
Brad,
I think you're wrong on civil war. We have been in the opening stages for the last several years, certainly since Nov 2016. To date, the violence has been contained to cities like Portland and other left coast enclaves but the thugs are on the loose and where they will show up next is anyone's guess. The question we should be asking is how do we stop groups like antifa? In the late 20s and early 30s industrialists in Germany thought they could contain and manuliplate Hitler, we know how that turned out.
I have, perhaps incorrectly, a great deal of faith in the common sense of the American people. I believe that when an issue is placed before them they will find the solution that allows the most freedom for the most people. What I do not have is any faith that our political leaders will do anything but what the people direct when voting. Scratch an intellectual and deep down you find a frustrated aristocrat.
The political class, in general, can be described in the same manner as Tom Paine used to describe the ruling class of England and France. We can only hope for as peaceful a revolution as England. If the alternative is another French Revolution then heads will roll. How long until the thugs of antifa start holding summary courts and executing people in the street?
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Post by timothylane on Aug 27, 2019 13:17:03 GMT -8
This has been my view for some time -- our second civil war may not be hot yet, but it's certainly warm. My usual comparison is to Spain in 1936. There has always been some political violence (the first known assassination attempt on a President was Richard Lawrence against Andrew Jackson with a pair of pistols that both misfired at point-blank range), but only occasionally has it been so organized. (Ironically, the previous organized campaigns of violence involved anarchists, which arguably is also the case today. Note that anarchists played a major role in the violence in Spain as well.)
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Post by Brad Nelson on Aug 27, 2019 18:36:17 GMT -8
You might be right, Artler. We might be seeing the opening skirmishes of that war.
I would have thought the same thing ten years ago. Maybe even five years ago. But now so many people are bought and sold by the government, I wonder if that independent spirit exists in any significant quantity. If it did, we would never have voted in a Marxist as president in the first place — and then reelected him.
I ran into an old friend at the grocery store yesterday. He’s a big rah-rah red, white, and blue supporter of America. He and his biker buddies ride in all the right memorial rides. But he’s been living on the dole now for at least 5 years. He works part time as a bouncer (security they would say) for a bar on the weekends he told me.
He used to have a good job in security at the local mall. I think the mall got bought and sold and there was a reorganization. To stay on, he would have had to take a slight cut in pay. What does he do? He finds that he can go on unemployment so he does. And he had (at the time) absolutely no shame in telling me this.
That, I fear, is not an uncommon story or attitude. There’s a lot of red-white-and-blue posturing out there. But I think very few actually would be prepared to bleed those colors, figuratively or literally.
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Post by kungfuzu on Oct 28, 2019 11:08:42 GMT -8
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 10, 2020 15:36:41 GMT -8
More proof that liberalism is a mental disease. Death before TrumpLet me be redundant, these people cannot be reasoned with. They must be crushed and if, as a result, they get their wish, all the better for the rest of us. |
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Post by timothylane on Feb 10, 2020 16:30:15 GMT -8
Rather obviously, this is a purely emotional reaction. Only a small number of radical leftists actually favor the extermination of humanity. It may also include some people pranking the pollsters, as when they ask if people prefer Congress or lice and many prefer the latter. But I suspect many really do feel that way.
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Post by kungfuzu on Feb 10, 2020 17:13:05 GMT -8
I am not so sure leftists can separate their emotions from rational thought so, given the opportunity they might just prefer an extinction event over Trump's re-election.
I first thought this might be something from the Onion or another site, but I see it isn't . Wacka-dos |
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Post by timothylane on Feb 10, 2020 19:20:24 GMT -8
Insanity, thy name is leftism. The majority favoring extinction over another Trump term are merely a spectacular example. There's the lunatic who took a knife to the White House to assassinate Trump -- and identified himself and his purpose to the Secret Service. And there's the hater who plowed into a group of Trump volunteers registering voters in Jacksonville. Not only did he approach, take a picture with his phone, accelerate, and plow into them (though they all ducked out of the way), but after that he took another picture and gave them the finger before driving off. (He was later captured.)
An interesting thing about that incident is how little attention the synoptic media gave it. Partly this was the fact that no one was hit, but partly it was the people involved. A Trump fan attacking a group of Demagogues registering voters in the same way and with the same effect would be major news all over the place. This, of course, wasn't, and some who reported it looked for a way to hit the Republicans.
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Post by artraveler on Feb 10, 2020 20:10:41 GMT -8
Rather obviously, this is a purely emotional reaction. Only a small number of radical leftists actually favor the extermination of humanity. I agree with KFZ. I have little doubt that progressives are willing to sacrifice all of humanity to be rid of DJT. The one thing about this kind of true believer is that they do not believe in the present. All of their philosophy is directed to some magical, mythical future when everything is perfect. At least according to their POV. Mature adults of any age from 12 -100 live in the present. We make plans for the future but we live our lives in the present. Children and the deranged live in either the past, (Alzheimers ) or the future (low IQ/adolescent). For these individuals there is no cure. Life, for whatever reason has dealt them a crippling blow that has effect on family and friends. We can pity them, even care for them, but never, never allow them close to the power of government, for they will. destroy everything they touch. |
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Post by Brad Nelson on Feb 11, 2020 8:14:55 GMT -8
I think that’s a very reasonable explanation of things, Artler.
Who thinks up these poll questions? Here’s one for dems: Would you rather there be a major school shooting or Trump lay a major oil pipeline from Canada?
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Post by timothylane on Feb 11, 2020 10:35:58 GMT -8
I assume Demagogues would prefer a mass school shooting. It would be much more useful for them politically, which is what matters most to them.
As for who comes up with the questions, maybe the Onion or the Babylon Bee comes up with them as jokes and the pollsters decide to run with them. The interesting question is how many people give an honest answer instead of pranking the prankers.
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Post by kungfuzu on May 25, 2020 10:02:48 GMT -8
I was just listening to the best of Dennis Prager and was amazed, maybe not, at this comment from a British historian.
I don't know what to say.
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Post by timothylane on May 25, 2020 10:30:22 GMT -8
It could be worse. Those could be American students. Of course, it might well be true there, though it also depends on what exactly was asked. At least they had the last name right, which is what you see most of the time.
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Post by artraveler on May 25, 2020 13:29:49 GMT -8
"A recent survey of over 2,000 British students of 13 to 18 years of age found that 40% of them believed the American Revolutionary War was won by Denzel Washington."Remember my friend, that there is no solution to stupid and some of the stupidest have Ph.D and are teaching this kind of crap. Apologies to Denzel Washington who is unfortunate to have a classic last name. |
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Post by kungfuzu on May 25, 2020 14:04:49 GMT -8
I recall reading that most of those with the last name Washington are black. This probably goes back to the admiration their freed ancestors felt for George Washington.
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Post by timothylane on May 25, 2020 14:31:34 GMT -8
That was certainly the case with Booker T. Washington, who was owned by the Taliaferro family. Many slaves chose their owner's last name (e.g., George Washington Carver, who may have been owned by some relatives of Elizabeth's). This could come in many ways. A biography of Carver I read in condensation in Reader's Digest said that some woman he lived with while going to school changed him from Carver's George to George Carver.
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Post by artraveler on May 25, 2020 16:19:58 GMT -8
The accepted method in the south was for the former slave to ad an extra letter in the last name, Smith would become smitth, Browne becomes browenn almond becomes Allmond and so on.
My g grandfather on my mothers side was Welsh-last name George. He was named Washington Layton George. Which throws the genealogy folks for a loop the the read the name, last to first George, L Washington.
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