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Post by artraveler on Apr 20, 2021 13:24:17 GMT -8
You can’t have too many miles between yourself and this crazy woman. I joined the Marines to escape from my first wife---does that count as far enough?
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 20, 2021 13:32:17 GMT -8
Truer words have never been spoken. I would also say that HR departments have become an extension of Romper Room.
That reminds me of a local kid's show that I used to watch on KING-TV in Seattle. Wunda Wunda.
It was an age-appropriate program. But now Wunda Wunda would not be out of place in a Walmart HR department as I've had it related to me by a manager who works there.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 20, 2021 13:38:28 GMT -8
We'd have to input the measurement data into the As Far Away As I Can Get computer and let it do the calculation. Is it further from Tennessee to China or from Artlerville to the U.S. Marines? I'm tilting toward your distancing, but it could be a close call.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 20, 2021 13:43:47 GMT -8
He no longer hands out titty-twisters when we meet. No kidding. So, yes, up the maturity ladder for sure.
He likes the family structure and tradition that he finds in Asian countries. This would be appealing in its own right to any Westerner who has seen the wreckage of feminism and welfare. But coming from a home where your mother is arguable Spawned from Satan, the appeal becomes much more immediate. If you think I’m exaggerating, you haven’t met her.
I believe he’s been to Japan before because he noted that they have a lot of antique shops and stuff. I guess they love cherishing the old stuff. I would feel much better about him aiding and abetting the Japanese by teaching their kids Engrish because I hate China. And I don’t think any American should go out of their way to facilitate their evil leaders. But I never told him that because it wasn’t my place to squash his illusions.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 20, 2021 18:45:16 GMT -8
Funny you should mention this. My wife and I were just discussing this on a drive back from supper. Somehow our discussion came around to the many silly westerners I met in Asia, who gushed over their time in China. They swooned, waxed eloquent and were head-over-heels in love with the PRC. It was always westerners who acted this way. Overseas Chinese had a more sober view.
This offended me for any number of reasons. China in the 1980s was pretty much a dump. The roads were so poor that driving around the country left one with sore kidneys and a bad back. The food was horrible. Outside of the big cities, one saw pigs wandering around the roads. One didn't have to ask where a toilet was. All one had to do was follow one's nose.
Most people working for the various government companies were obnoxious and virtually everyone was dishonest. Nothing worked particularly well, from phones to bathtubs. The Chinese were huge racists. They were particularly good at figuring out what made individuals tick and were expert at telling such people what they wanted to hear. Truth was not held in high regard. They were complete cynics and opportunists. As one French friend said, "Ze Chinese zey are a peuple without illusions." Perhaps he and I had only run into bad examples of the great civilization.
In my opinion, anyone who was taken in by such people and such a place were dupes, at best. I figured many must have had problems with their own histories and/or the countries they came from. Maybe they were just spoiled, bored children who needed stimulation of a foreign nature to feel alive. Pathetic.
I admit, I was very pointed with some of these fools and was not shy about disabusing them of their fantasies. More than once, I set these dreamers straight and told them that the lowest coolie in China looked down on any and all Westerners. It didn't matter if he was the president of the USA, he was a barbarian, i.e. not Han Chinese.
Some of these Lotus eaters were shocked when I made such observations and protested. In a couple of cases this happened during a meal with Chinese sitting around the table. I told the snow-flakes to ask any Chinese sitting at the table whether or not I was right. I can clearly recall the Chinese smiling and saying, "Yes, Fu Zu is correct." This deflated the Sinophiles/PRC Lackeys only momentarily. They were soon back to praising the PRC to the heavens. It was like someone high on dope.
We lived in Hongkong for six years, and although my wife is Singaporean Chinese, she never visited the PRC while we lived in Hongkong. She never even had the desire to visit the place. Perhaps because she had a pretty good idea of what she would have seen.
Despite the above, I married a Chinese woman and consider a couple of Chinese, of the non-PRC type, to be among my closest friends. The people are ok, the system sucks.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 20, 2021 20:04:20 GMT -8
Being a bit older, I watched this guy on Saturday mornings. "Slam Bang Theater." He introduced the various "Three Stooges" movies broadcast. Icky Twerp A bit less highbrow than Wunda Wunda. I guess our equivalent would have been. Mr. Peppermint Saturday nights, Icky became Gorgon who introduced horror movies.
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Post by artraveler on Apr 20, 2021 21:53:52 GMT -8
silly westerners I met in Asia, who gushed over their time in China. I agree. although my time in Asia was in the 70s and not in PRC. The closest I ever got to the mainland was HK. I did see a lot of Asia and Into-china. The impression I got was two fold. Americans were not loved, Vietnam being the major reason, but almost every country despised the mainland Chinese and every country had bad feeling going back hundreds of years. In the case of Vietnam over a thousand. As westerners we may not be welcomed with open arms but the countries of Asia, including communist Vietnam fear the PRC and were moving to a unified front until the election. In the absence of American leadership and strength they will be forced to come to accommodation sooner or later. I have no experience with India but the Indians I have met seem to feel the same.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 21, 2021 7:33:57 GMT -8
Plenty of books have been written about the wide-eyed naiveté by many Westerners regarding Communism. The reasons for this are probably various and obscure. But there’s no doubt there is a driving motivation by many to find a mental or emotional Utopia. Combined with a hatred of self or of one's own place, it leads people to willfully ignore reality.
There are certainly business reasons why people would look the other way and pretend that they are not, in fact, collaborating with monsters. But my own best guess is that most who idealize the Communists are looking for the protection and consolation of The Perfect Parent.
We can see from the easy and total compliance to irrational Wuhan Flu lockdown mandates, environmental excesses, and other drastic reactions to just life-in-general being imperfect, just how primed today’s Westerners are to the idea that life should be easy and risk-free.
Parents can indeed be a bitch. I believe that good parents are relatively rare, mediocre ones predominate, and bad ones are rampant. But that’s life. But this maternal, therapeutic culture insists on any and all cures from hardship. Dispensed with is the masculine trait of just bucking it up and getting on with it.
In effect, our culture has turned people into ninnies and forever-children. Communism is the ultimate escape from life’s responsibilities. The state takes up the job of the parenting leaving citizens free to pursue bobbles and trinkets — like children. This thought is nothing new. Mark Steyn has certainly written extensively of it.
So the same effect is occurring here. In the mad dash for a mental and material utopia, people are willing to believe the lies of those promising security and prosperity if they will just give up those little things called freedom and responsibility.
There is no long-term future for a ninny society. We are watching the fast disintegration of the West. China and Russia, if they have ambitions of an expanded empire, need only wait us out. At some point, in order to avoid war, Europe and America will be only too glad to cede responsibility and power to a foreign government. It’s happening now in all kinds of ways.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 21, 2021 7:41:19 GMT -8
Slam Bang Theater is a hoot. And that old pie-in-the-face shtick never gets old.
I’d never heard of Mr. Peppermint either. Given that this is from Dallas, I assume that when Mr. Peppermint discovers that his cane has been stolen, he slaps on a six-shooter and goes looking for the culprit.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 21, 2021 8:28:05 GMT -8
I studied in Europe in 1973-74 and the feeling about the USSR and America was similar. People sometimes laughed and made jokes about America, but they weren't really afraid of her. They feared the USSR.
It has already happened. Xi has done something in a matter of a few years, which I thought was almost impossible. He has united Australia, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia in a coalition against the PRC. America is definitely the leader of this coalition. South Korea is connected to this group, but the present leader is a leftist who has been soft. I understand he is in a very weak position and will likely not be re-elected. The Philippines is led by a thuggish clown who has been trying to better relations between the Philippines and the PRC and weaken those between the Philippines and America. He has not been particularly successful with China and they are having some serious problems with the Chinese parking a bunch of vessels at some islands in the Philippine economic zone of the South China Sea. This seems to be a red line for the Philippines. The Philippines military does not appear to agree with the soft approach to China.
India is loosely allied with the above group. The relations between India and America improved greatly when Trump was president. The Indians rest astride the Indian Ocean which is very important for the movement of goods to and from China. The Indian military is no joke.
I am personally glad that Xi became leader of the PRC. He is like a bull in a China shop (sorry for pun) and his arrogance has made the nefarious aims of the PRC, clear to the world. Many countries have woken up to the threat. Had Xi been more subtle, as the Chinese often are, the world would have remained asleep until it was too late.
Expect some interesting times.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 21, 2021 8:55:17 GMT -8
I sometimes wonder how much of this is motivated by people, for what ever reasons, wanting someone else to make decisions for them. Like you say, too many people today are childish.
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Post by artraveler on Apr 21, 2021 9:13:09 GMT -8
I believe that good parents are relatively rare Mark Twain said, "when I was 16 I could not understand how my father could be so dumb. By the time I was 21 I was amazed at how much the old man learned in just 5 years." Twain would have been 16 in about 1851/2. The world was very different then. It was common for 16 year old to marry, raise their children and go to war. My GG grandfather (1795-1880) left home at 16 joined up with the GA military and fought at NO in 1814. He received a land grand in the new state of Arkansas in 1836. His is a common story, as was the story of a certain backwoodsmen who settled in Illinois. I think it was Lincoln, bur could be Twain who said, "we gain wisdom when we forgive our parents". While was common to treat teens in those times as mini-adults and hold them responsible for adult actions. Today, we don't ask any one to be an adult regardless of age. If you're under the age of 40 and hold the correct political positions your actions, no matter how heinous, are excused because of the lack of experience. If over 40 they are excused because you're approaching senility. In what has become a PC culture world wide no-one is willing to be the adult, regardless of age. Best example is AOC and her constant nattering. Even as little as 50 years ago she could not get elected, and if elected would be shut down by her own party. No sane news organization would give her the time of day.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 21, 2021 9:52:28 GMT -8
It’s also in perfect synergy with childless females who wish to nurture us by proxy through government. I don’t go into easy Freudian analogies myself. But the plethora of barren women in politics is a plague.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 21, 2021 10:03:14 GMT -8
Isn’t that the truth. Partisan politics aside, AOC is a near perfect example of our culture rewarding the spoiled child instead of spanking that child.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 22, 2021 7:35:01 GMT -8
I’m in the middle of watching 1932’s Shanghai Express with Marlene Dietrich and Warner Oland. Oland plays a half-Chinese/half-English character. When boarding the train on the way to Shanghai, another passengers asks Oland that the chances are of getting through safely, especially with a civil war brewing. Oland says: The movie is so-so at this point. I’ve got about 30 minutes to go so I’ll see it through. But there’s been nothing particularly compelling about this film. But I thought that quote was interesting in the context of what we'd been discussing.
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Post by kungfuzu on Apr 22, 2021 10:23:41 GMT -8
A catchy line, but not altogether untrue. Back in the days when I lived in Asia, Westerners would often ask me what was the main difference between the West and Asia. I replied, "Asia is not built on Judeo-Christian ethics or Greco-Roman rationalism." Today, I would add "Germanic energy" to that mix. My metaphor is that Judeo-Christian ethics are the foundation, Greco-Roman rationalism the frame and Germanic energy the walls and roof of the Western Cathedral. We have seen what happens if the foundation or frame are removed from this structure. I think that the major literary classics give an interesting view into the character of a nation. For a view into that of China, I suggest one has a look at the novel titled Water Margin . It is better translated, "Outlaws of the Marsh." I could only make it through two of the three volumes before saying, "I give up." The book is full of disgusting things such as inn keepers killing people and using the bodies to make dumplings. Rape, murder and pillage is there in every chapter. The full cruelty of the culture is on view. That is not to say that there are not some interesting characters, even noble ones, in the book. But I have never come across any other book in which duplicity, murder, crime and bloodshed were so wantonly and frequently on display. And I think readers know that I have plowed through many many novels in my time. I read the Sidney Shapiro translation of 1980.
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Post by artraveler on Apr 22, 2021 12:39:15 GMT -8
You're in China now, sir, where time and life have no value. Mier Dagan, in 1973 after the October War, said almost the same to me about the Arab world. Both Moslem and Asian have similar histories and ideology of oppressive rule.
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Post by Brad Nelson on Apr 23, 2021 7:30:33 GMT -8
And here I thought the Thénardiers from Les Miserables were harsh:
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Post by Brad Nelson on May 25, 2021 8:11:30 GMT -8
Pat sent me this video by Bill Whittle this morning.
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